[8-bit]

What are the actual rules for the Blast Shield on page 104 of Run & Gun? Does it act as a Riot Shield for Armor purposes? When shield bashing, what DV does it use? It seems like a cool idea, to have a shield that you can carry around and detonate if need be (like blowing up the chasing vehicle...), but the rules seem kind of vague.

Any ideas?

Edit: This might have been better for the Gear section, but oh well.

[Namikaze]

I'd treat it like a riot shield for melee attacks and defensive purposes.  This should be clarified though, certainly.

[jim1701]

Not sure how I would feel about letting someone use a shaped charge as a defensive object let alone a melee weapon.  I'm sure the compound would be stable but there would have to be potential for...mishap.

[Namikaze]

The only potential for mishap would be in the event that someone hit you with an electrical attack.  Then you're holding a shaped charge when it goes off.  You won't get the full blast, but you're gonna feel it in the morning (if you survive to morning).

[Adamo1618]

I find it way too expensive, considering it inflicts as much damage as a rating 20 explosive at ten times the price. It has lower availability but also lower AP. It needs to be rebalanced, imo.

[Novocrane]

Then you're holding a shaped charge when it goes off.  You won't get the full blast, but you're gonna feel it in the morning (if you survive to morning).

I had the exact opposite understanding from the text - that it's something you can hold onto and explode in someone's face. Where does it say what skill standard shield attacks use?

[ScytheKnight]

. . .

WHY are people talking about an item used to shield surrounding area from the back-blast of an explosive as if it where a ballistic shield type item?!

Just because it's called a 'shield' doesn't mean it's something you strap to your arm!

*facedesk*

[8-bit]

Talk about some serious thread necro; that last post was from 3 months ago.

[Novocrane]

Just because it's called a 'shield' doesn't mean it's something you strap to your arm!

It has an exotic weapon attack skill. I couldn't find a mention of which skill shields use in the CRB, but I'm guessing that's not it - which would suggest it's an attack unique to the blast shield ... pretty straight forward from there.

[ScytheKnight]

Considering it shows up as neither an Exotic Weapon OR as Armor...

*sighs* It is a big ass hunk of metal you drop down to contain a blast IT IS NOT SOMETHING YOU STRAP TO YOUR ARM! I've notice no-one saying it has a skill can quote from where.

[UnLimiTeD]

p. 104 Run&Gun:

Handle
straps in the center allow it to be carried and used like
a shield until it’s deployed.
...
To use as a melee
weapon, wielders must have Exotic Weapon (Blast
Shield) skill; the accuracy rating of the item is 4.

[ScytheKnight]

Ahhuh.... riiight... and people thinking that 20P -4AP is what they would get using it in combat?

[Novocrane]

As long as the thermite strips and blast charges are set, do you have an opinion that's open to discourse as to why it shouldn't be 20P -4AP?

[ScytheKnight]

As long as the thermite strips and blast charges are set, do you have an opinion that's open to discourse as to why it shouldn't be 20P -4AP?

Sure, as soon as you explain how in the hell you're going to actually do that to someone in combat.

[Darzil]

It certainly reads to me as if it's a 'shield' that gives pretty much no defensive value, and can be detonated in two ways, either on a target surface using magnets or adhesive, or in combat against a target using Exotic Weapon (Blast Shield), accuracy 4.

In practice it's mainly effective as a way to breaking through a surface with minimum setup time, as it's hideously expensive for a one shot combat device.

It's a walk up, push onto wall, move back, detonate, walk through new door, device.