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Title: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 11/12/15)
Post by: FastJack on (03:23:23/09-04-10)
Shadowland Post Index (http://www.mattdroz.com/PDF/Shadowland_Posters.pdf) (Bloody Business, Cheyenne, 10 Terrorists, Data Trails, Chrome Flesh, Butte, and Hard Targets)
Shadowland Author Index (http://www.mattdroz.com/PDF/Shadowland_Authors.pdf) (Bloody Business, Cheyenne, 10 Terrorists, Data Trails, Chrome Flesh, Butte, and Hard Targets)
In-universe Publishing timeline (http://www.mattdroz.com/PDF/SR_Publish.pdf) (Bloody Business, Cheyenne, 10 Terrorists, Data Trails, Chrome Flesh, Boundless Mercy, Butte, Counting Coup, and Hard Targets)

Post index is a listing of all posts made by Shadowland Denizens. Author index is a listing of all the denizens and the articles they wrote for Shadowland. Publishing timeline is when the books take-place in-universe (some adventure books are not precisely dated).

Shadowrun 2050 is approximated at being published 7-1-50, which places it before the Street Samurai Catalog
Run & Gun does not list a date in the book, but since it takes place 5 years after the last combat book (Arsenal), I'm placing it at 4/9/2076.
10 Terrorists, Data Trials, Chrome Flesh, and Butte do not list a date in the book, I am approximating the date based on the PDF publish date..
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: Critias on (03:56:24/09-04-10)
I've got Threats 2 right here.  I have the Denver book somewhere (sorry, lots of stuff is still boxed up from the recent move), so it'll have to wait. 

In Threats 2, page 110 just has an intro (to the new chapter) from Captain Chaos, on <11 July 2062, 19:06:48 (pst)>.  Page 111 is just artwork.  Looks like we lucked out. 
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: Kerrygold on (04:28:32/09-04-10)
Denver: City of Shadows

page 46:
D00d
Hawkeye
Ratcatcher
Hawkeye

Leo
Armstrong
The Crack of Doom
Lennox

page 47:
Tortuga (starts at page 46)
Slicer Dicer

Duo
Scocio Pat
Hauberk
Billiam

Hope that helps,

Cheers,

Kerrygold
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: Ultra Violet on (07:43:13/09-04-10)
Denver - City of Shadows

page 46: (2nd part of THE BUREAUCRACY)
D00d (23:50:53/6-2-55)
Hawkeye (02:58:25/6-4-55)
Ratcatcher (03:00:01/6-4-55)
Hawkeye (03:00:57/6-4-55)

A PEEK AT THE SYSTEM
Leo (22:02:15/6-2-55)
Armstrong (19:13:04/6-3-55)
The Crack of Doom (01:31:43/6-5-55)
Lennox (23:47:51/6-7-55)
Raiko (03:48:16/6-7-55)

page 47:
Tortuga (02:39:17/6-7-55) (starts at page 46)
Slicer Dicer (15:49:02/6-9-55)

WHO RUNS THINGS
Duo (04:09:36/5-31-55)
Socio Pat (21:47:36/5-31-55)
Hauberk (12:31:04/5-29-55)
Billiam (00:01:32/6-1-55)
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: Texas_Tarantula on (21:55:08/09-05-10)
Gah, the Laughing Man! Is he still in the SR4 universe?
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: FastJack on (22:07:59/09-05-10)
As far as I know he is. Haven't seen anything that says he isn't.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: Caine Hazen on (22:08:42/09-05-10)
He's got a new puppet to do the talking.. he's a bit busy with some things that have come up :D
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: FastJack on (22:09:33/09-05-10)
He's got a new puppet to do the talking.. he's a bit busy with some things that have come up :D
Tell me more! Tell me more!
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: Mooncrow on (22:14:44/09-05-10)
Didn't you just chew her out over not submitting her Running Wild draft, Fast?

:p
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: Texas_Tarantula on (22:17:25/09-05-10)
Seriously, he's still around? Hell, I thought he'd died, or ascended to another plane of existence, or retired, or whatever it is immortal elves do.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: Mooncrow on (22:56:41/09-05-10)
Seriously, he's still around? Hell, I thought he'd died, or ascended to another plane of existence, or retired, or whatever it is immortal elves do.

Um, what they do is hang out forever, pretty much.  But yes, the Laughing Man is alive and reasonably well last I heard.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: Texas_Tarantula on (23:09:19/09-05-10)
I just thought they spouted off random Earthdawn-era wisdom from the boards and sounded cryptic.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: Critias on (23:10:51/09-05-10)
And do lots of crossword puzzles.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: FastJack on (23:23:06/09-05-10)
Didn't you just chew her out over not submitting her Running Wild draft, Fast?

:p
That reminds me, still waitin' for that article on the Princes...
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: Casazil on (18:36:08/09-06-10)
There is a book not sure which one it has to jackpointers useing symbols for names of alpha and omega and they are discussing immortal elves I think
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: FastJack on (19:08:40/09-06-10)
Yeah. I didn't include that on the list because the Α and Ω were codes to identify the different speakers, not what they called each other or anything.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: grid10 on (19:18:33/09-06-10)
Do you know how many of them have died?
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: FastJack on (19:29:56/09-06-10)
I've recorded deaths when it's been mentioned. Here's the list I have (so far, I'm still reviewing some stuff):

Diabolique, d. Crash 2.0
Fatima (female black ork magic-user), d. 6/8/2071
HAL9000, unknown
HeadCrash, d. 4/2063
Juggler, d. Crash 2.0
Matador (Juan Samuel Pererya, mercenary, Picador's mentor), d 2062
Matrixmaster, d 8/8/2054
Monk, unknown
The Neon Antichrist, d. 4/2063
Nighthawk, d. 4/2063
Nocturne, d. 12/28/2061
Ricochet Rita, d. 4/2063
Rikki, d. 4/2063
Roderigo, d. 3/2057
Thumper (dwarf decker), d Crash 2.0
Warthog, d. 4/2063
Wedge, d. 4/2063

Captain Chaos, "Saved" during Crash 2.0
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: Casazil on (05:27:56/09-07-10)
Yeah. I didn't include that on the list because the Α and Ω were codes to identify the different speakers, not what they called each other or anything.

So do you know who those posters were supposed to be??
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: Casazil on (05:28:48/09-07-10)
Captain Chaos, "Saved" during Crash 2.0

AHH but was he??
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: Patrick Goodman on (08:11:49/09-07-10)
Just FYI, "The Old Man" referenced in the Germany Sourcebook and the "The Old Man" referenced in Target: Matrix are two different characters. I had nothing at all to do with the former, and everything to do with the latter. The "Old Man" referred to in T:M was murdered on 06/22/2063, the body discovered on 06/23/2063 (SOTA64, p 147).

It's not canon (haven't found any way to really work it in), but Texas 2-Step died in Crash 2.0, pretty much as he lived (fighting the Azzies). Ditto for Midnight Angel, who went down with his ship (Azziewatch got pretty messed up during Crash 2.0, but it did survive). Since these were both characters I introduced, I feel like I can be reasonably definitive on those two.

All three of these characters (Old Man, Texas 2-Step, and Midnight Angle) were humans. The Old Man was just a businessman, though he had some...interesting side businesses that he managed to keep out of the public eye. 2-Step was a sammie, for lack of a better word, though he simply thought of himself as a patriot/soldier. Angel was a decker.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: FastJack on (09:27:00/09-07-10)
Thanks, Patrick! Will update my notes ASAP.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: FastJack on (09:27:22/09-07-10)
Yeah. I didn't include that on the list because the Α and Ω were codes to identify the different speakers, not what they called each other or anything.

So do you know who those posters were supposed to be??
There's been no clues to who they might be.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: Texas_Tarantula on (09:45:02/09-07-10)
Captain Chaos, "Saved" during Crash 2.0

AHH but was he??

I like to think so. He was a fun character. By the by, I know this is a dumb question, but are most of the Shadowland/Jackpoint characters based on actual characters, or just created for the dialogue? I mean, does someone have an actual character named Man-Of-Many-Names, or was it just created because, hey, the SR universe needed another cryptic shaman?
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: FastJack on (09:58:19/09-07-10)
Captain Chaos, "Saved" during Crash 2.0

AHH but was he??
I can't remember where I saw it, but someone mentions that there's a rumor that Captain's been seen on the Matrix, and FastJack comments about 'checking on a friends gravesite'. So I'd like to believe he's around...
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: Patrick Goodman on (10:26:29/09-07-10)
By the by, I know this is a dumb question, but are most of the Shadowland/Jackpoint characters based on actual characters, or just created for the dialogue? I mean, does someone have an actual character named Man-Of-Many-Names, or was it just created because, hey, the SR universe needed another cryptic shaman?
Mostly the latter, though a few of them are/were characters some of us played or used as NPCs. Texas 2-Step, for instance, was a character I used as my alter-ego (and who got used a time or two in other folks' works), but he was also one of my very first SR PCs from back in the day. Corona is an NPC I've used a lot (FastJack, she's a human decker, FWIW, and she's still kickin').

Most of them, though, were just created on the spot if a piece of dialog was needed. This has changed considerably over the last few years as we've tried to limit the number of shadowtalkers and develop a little more of the characters through their dialog in shadowtalk.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: FastJack on (10:47:13/09-07-10)
As fun as it was to see the HK Cavaliers posting in the Hong Kong section of Shadows of Asia, I'm grateful that it's been pared down to the Jackpointers, if only for a record-keeping point-of-view. ;)
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: Casazil on (19:03:01/09-07-10)
Captain Chaos, "Saved" during Crash 2.0

AHH but was he??
I can't remember where I saw it, but someone mentions that there's a rumor that Captain's been seen on the Matrix, and FastJack comments about 'checking on a friends gravesite'. So I'd like to believe he's around...

I read that someplace as well so we'll see I guess
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: Casazil on (19:05:19/09-07-10)
I like to think so. He was a fun character. By the by, I know this is a dumb question, but are most of the Shadowland/Jackpoint characters based on actual characters, or just created for the dialogue? I mean, does someone have an actual character named Man-Of-Many-Names, or was it just created because, hey, the SR universe needed another cryptic shaman?

Yes CC was a good man as well as fair.

I am of the understanding a few of the shadow talkers are real PC's but I think most were just made to fill the roll needed.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: Longshot23 on (06:48:30/09-08-10)
the posters I always wonder about are Dragonslayer (drove me up the fraggin' wall!), Lone Gunman (so much fun - Clockwork reminds me of him) and Buzz (seriously drek-irritating - the other half of flashbacks from Clockwork).  Oh, and Glitterfrost . . . whether or not this was Hualpa.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: Mooncrow on (06:52:03/09-08-10)
the posters I always wonder about are Dragonslayer (drove me up the fraggin' wall!), Lone Gunman (so much fun - Clockwork reminds me of him) and Buzz (seriously drek-irritating - the other half of flashbacks from Clockwork).  Oh, and Glitterfrost . . . whether or not this was Hualpa.

Agreed on Dragonslayer - I wanted to know what happened to him so I could point and laugh. 
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: Longshot23 on (07:06:17/09-08-10)
the posters I always wonder about are Dragonslayer (drove me up the fraggin' wall!), Lone Gunman (so much fun - Clockwork reminds me of him) and Buzz (seriously drek-irritating - the other half of flashbacks from Clockwork).  Oh, and Glitterfrost . . . whether or not this was Hualpa.

Agreed on Dragonslayer - I wanted to know what happened to him so I could point and laugh. 

Of course, you know he'd just ignore you, or (if he was having a bad day) add you on the supposed draconic assassination list . . . come to think of it, wonder what that bunch of loonies were doing about drakes . . .
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: FastJack on (09:37:09/09-08-10)
See, Skeptic is the one that got me. I mean, I *am* a skeptic and a believer at the same time. I just didn't get how he couldn't accept any of the rumors going on when he lived in a world of dragons and AI's...
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: Doc Chaos on (10:08:33/09-08-10)
You remember the Iraqi Minister for Public Information? The guy who yelled "We will behead them, they are already rotting on the battlefield, there is but a single tank in the city and it is stuck!" while some Marines under cover of an Abrams tank were taking the plaza behind him? ;)
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: Texas_Tarantula on (14:16:43/09-08-10)
I've always loved Man-of-Many-Names, Fastjack, and Fatima. Clockwork's a little bi- well, he's got stances I do not respect.

Of course, none of the users stand up to the all-amazing power of Bung, the smart-aleck from SE2 and beyond. I miss Bung.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: FastJack on (14:36:49/09-08-10)
I've always loved Man-of-Many-Names, Fastjack, and Fatima. Clockwork's a little bi- well, he's got stances I do not respect.

Of course, none of the users stand up to the all-amazing power of Bung, the smart-aleck from SE2 and beyond. I miss Bung.
I believe he's still around.

And his newb cousin GnuB.

(What, you never realized that was Bung spelled backwards? ;))
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: BlackMyron on (23:29:52/09-08-10)
 IIRC, one of the Jackpointers mentioned missing Dragonslayer and his loony comments.

 Reading one of the older sourcebooks, I was greatly amused when Hestaby flat-out replied "You are an idiot" to one of his rants.

 I miss Tomtom.  His Madagascar bit (with Captain Chaos booting him off at the end) was hilarious.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: FastJack on (23:55:27/09-08-10)
Maybe if we ask really nicely Jason & Co. will give us some updates on older Shadowland folks...

 ;)
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: Saint on (07:17:58/09-09-10)
We need to get some Jackpoint/Shadowland Style threads going where the admins or writers feed us a little tidbit and we comment away on it. Who knows we may end up with our stuff inspiring the writers.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: Doc Chaos on (07:29:46/09-09-10)
As much as I'd like that, I don't think it's gonna happen.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: Saint on (17:17:49/09-09-10)
even if it was just one of us writing up a piece of speculation on events and having some fun it would be pretty cool.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: FastJack on (20:43:58/09-09-10)
Well, just asked Bull over on his U93 Biography thread, and he said to go for it (http://forums.shadowrun4.com/index.php?topic=78.msg3514#msg3514). If you want to post, create a biography on his thread, then start a topic. If you got an article, go ahead and post it or attach it to the opening post. I'd stick to his recommendations though and if you start a Shadowland thread, put either [U93] (signifying the old-school date-time stamped forums) or [SEA] (signifying the new Jackpoint/ShadowSEA) style. Also keep to character you post a biography for, no one posting as Slamm-0! or Netcat (I'm not posting as FastJack).
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: Bull on (02:06:37/09-12-10)
Fun thread.  Ok, a few answers on my end...

1)  The Bull that posted to Shadowtech is technically not the same Bull as the "Best Ork Decker YOu Never Met".  I was playing Bull by that point, but Target: UCAS was my characters Debut as a Shadowtalker (I won a contest on the old ShadowRN mailing list, along with Spike, Granite, Fro (Adam Jury's original online handle), and one other person...  Kumquat maybe?  It COULD have been my character, I was playing when the book came out.  And I always claimed that it was me. :)

2)  A fair number of characters were based on real characters.  Talon was Steve Kenson.  Josie Cruise was Jon Szeto's.  Bull was mine.  Slamm-O was Fred Hoopers.  Winterhawk belonged to one of the assistant Developers.  Pistons was Elissa Carey.  Half the characters I ever put into anything I wrote were either some of my secondary characters, friends characters, or friends online Nicknames.  But, a lot of time, they were either jokes, or just random names pulled out for fun.  I know in one of the SOTA books, Jon Szeto used a bunch of GI Joe names to fill in for merc posters.

3)  An "In Character" chat was done once, during one of the Live Chats that CGL did for a while.  I'd actually love to see something like that done again, or do up something like that on the forums here.

4)  I'm going to end up using some of the Season 4 Missions Conatcts and NPCs in the UV93 threads for shits and giggles, and I wouldn't be surprised to see some talk about events going on in Missions pop up there.

Bull
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: FastJack on (11:30:24/09-12-10)
Thanks Bull!

<happily scribbling notes in my master files>
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: Patrick Goodman on (12:42:32/09-12-10)
So when do we see the updated file?
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: FastJack on (12:51:48/09-12-10)
Soon... Going through some other things on the file and some other projects.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: Wolfboy on (23:50:14/09-26-10)
what i would like to see is something similar to NAGEE, maybe players writing up little things about the "local" Sprawls, kinda like "Duck" did for memphis in her "Ducks tales" if your nice, (and i'm lucky) i might post the link if 'hawk doesnt beat me to it.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: FastJack on (00:07:12/09-27-10)
what i would like to see is something similar to NAGEE, maybe players writing up little things about the "local" Sprawls, kinda like "Duck" did for memphis in her "Ducks tales" if your nice, (and i'm lucky) i might post the link if 'hawk doesnt beat me to it.
Hmmm... it's not 'hawk you need to worry about.

Duck's Tale (http://deckerm.tripod.com/shadowrun/ducks_tale.html) (And the other tales (http://deckerm.tripod.com/shadowrun/fr_stories.html))

Never underestimate the FastJack search algorithms. ;)
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: Wolfboy on (02:12:31/09-27-10)
i bow to the master, and i still LMAO to "Duck day afternoon"
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: FastJack on (08:55:04/10-12-10)
Cleaned up and updated the Poster's index. I also finished up an Author's index as well.

Get them here! (http://forums.shadowrun4.com/index.php?topic=58.msg361#msg361)

Next stop, FastJack's Profiles... ;)
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: Angelone on (17:05:00/10-12-10)
Yeah? What you planning on doing with that?
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: FastJack on (20:09:24/10-12-10)
;) Compiling everything I know about various posters.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: Angelone on (05:29:06/10-13-10)
Do you have the Jackpoint posters list? It's a little out of date with a few deceased posters and no new ones. /dev/girl or however you spell it isn't on it. There's also the 10 Jackpointers pdf, you have to pay for that though. If you would like help with that I'll be willing to cover some of the stuff. Pretty sure I have or can get my hands on all the books.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: FastJack on (07:24:41/10-13-10)
Yep, got both of those.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: Patrick Goodman on (11:50:59/10-14-10)
Hey, Jack! On the "Authors" PDF (the short one), on page 6, it should read "Midnight Angel," not "Midnight Angle." Trust me on this one. :)
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: FastJack on (12:00:16/10-14-10)
Whoops... Dang spell-checker ignoring something like that just because it's a valid word... ;)
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: hazmat the monstar on (17:26:48/10-14-10)
@FastJack
So, so you write for the FastJack on JackPoints?
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: Angelone on (17:28:57/10-14-10)
He is FastJask on Jackpoint... or atleast he's old enough to be :P
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: FastJack on (18:52:57/10-14-10)
LOL... Nah, just a fan. Wish I did.

Maybe if enough people think I'm good enough and point it out to JMH... ;)
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: hazmat the monstar on (20:06:51/10-14-10)
FastJack is so oldschool. He was around in the 2050s (2nd edition) wasn't he. And Jack (if that is, i mean isn't your real name) Your'e the shit. You got my vote.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: BlackMyron on (02:01:29/10-15-10)
 I've been going through the old novels, one by one, and damned if I forgot that FastJack had two (albeit minor) appearances, in Into the Shadows and Night's Pawn.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: Angelone on (05:29:22/10-15-10)
He was also in one of the Striper novels... Who Hunts the Hunter iirc, along with Dodger.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: Patrick Goodman on (18:35:25/10-15-10)
There's no school like the old school.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: Longshot23 on (07:10:18/10-17-10)
Just FYI, "The Old Man" referenced in the Germany Sourcebook and the "The Old Man" referenced in Target: Matrix are two different characters. I had nothing at all to do with the former, and everything to do with the latter. The "Old Man" referred to in T:M was murdered on 06/22/2063, the body discovered on 06/23/2063 (SOTA64, p 147).


sorry if i'm slow with this, but . . .
The 'Old Man' of T:M is likely to have been Patrick Goodman, founder and CEO of Cavalier Arms Ltd.  The dates of the repective deaths all but match . . .
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: FastJack on (13:35:18/10-17-10)
Just FYI, "The Old Man" referenced in the Germany Sourcebook and the "The Old Man" referenced in Target: Matrix are two different characters. I had nothing at all to do with the former, and everything to do with the latter. The "Old Man" referred to in T:M was murdered on 06/22/2063, the body discovered on 06/23/2063 (SOTA64, p 147).

Um... You realize you just told Patrick Goodman that "Old Man" was his character? ;)
sorry if i'm slow with this, but . . .
The 'Old Man' of T:M is likely to have been Patrick Goodman, founder and CEO of Cavalier Arms Ltd.  The dates of the repective deaths all but match . . .

Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: Longshot23 on (19:19:25/10-17-10)

Um... You realize you just told Patrick Goodman that "Old Man" was his character? ;)

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It was probably an in-joke anyway  ::)
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: Patrick Goodman on (00:29:47/10-23-10)
It was probably an in-joke anyway  ::)
After a fashion.

I'll tell the whole story later, if anyone's really interested in how I came to be a part of the game world.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: Angelone on (05:46:59/10-23-10)
I am, I think I've heard the story before, but I've forgotten the specifics. Did it have something to do with Azziewatch?
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: FastJack on (10:03:00/10-23-10)
I am, I think I've heard the story before, but I've forgotten the specifics. Did it have something to do with Azziewatch?

From Mr. Goodman himself, earlier in this thread:

Just FYI, "The Old Man" referenced in the Germany Sourcebook and the "The Old Man" referenced in Target: Matrix are two different characters. I had nothing at all to do with the former, and everything to do with the latter. The "Old Man" referred to in T:M was murdered on 06/22/2063, the body discovered on 06/23/2063 (SOTA64, p 147).

It's not canon (haven't found any way to really work it in), but Texas 2-Step died in Crash 2.0, pretty much as he lived (fighting the Azzies). Ditto for Midnight Angel, who went down with his ship (Azziewatch got pretty messed up during Crash 2.0, but it did survive). Since these were both characters I introduced, I feel like I can be reasonably definitive on those two.

All three of these characters (Old Man, Texas 2-Step, and Midnight Angle) were humans. The Old Man was just a businessman, though he had some...interesting side businesses that he managed to keep out of the public eye. 2-Step was a sammie, for lack of a better word, though he simply thought of himself as a patriot/soldier. Angel was a decker.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: Angelone on (11:11:44/10-23-10)
Yes but I want the full story.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: FastJack on (11:27:20/10-23-10)
I'll second the request, Patrick! ;D
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: Longshot23 on (12:01:15/10-23-10)
I'll third the request . . .
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: freddieflatline on (20:46:07/10-24-10)
What the heck.  I fourth it.....
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: Patrick Goodman on (11:36:41/10-25-10)
Once, long ago, the Earth cooled. Mountains rose, rivers flowed to the sea. This was before these forums. This was before Dumpshock. This was before Jackpoint. This was before the dinosaurs nobly sacrificed themselves to save the ascending mammals from the massive chunk of rock that fell from the sky and spelled their own doom.

This story is about one of those mammals. Indirectly, at least.

Before the forums mentioned above, there was the ShadowRN mailing list. I was a member there once, as was a chap named Erik Jameson. I frequently spoke on that mailing list about things I did and didn't like in the Shadowrun universe, and I often spoke of some of the home-grown things in my own campaign. One of these was a company called Cavalier Arms (named, for those who care, after a former girlfriend's preferred class in AD&D; she and I were still on speaking terms then...she was also this close to being the governor of Texas in Shadows of North America, but then things got ugly and I managed to get Jon Szeto to change it in time for submission).

Erik was writing for Mike Mulvihill at the time, for Corporate Download. Erik being (for reasons which surpass my understanding) a Fuchi fan, he had bid for (and won) the Novatech writeup for CDL. He wanted Miles Lanier to have his own personal weapons company, and asked me one day if I objected to him using Cavalier Arms. I did not, and told him so. Not much else was said about it for some time.

Then Corp Download hit the streets, and I buy it, and I go see how Cavalier fits into all of this. And I discover that there's a character named "Patrick Goodman" running the company and still owning a minority stake. It was at this point that I noticed how thin the fabric of reality actually was in places. It was also at this point that my own attempts to get involved in the freelancer pool for Mike and FASA both became a little ironic and a moral imperative.

I've been trying to get back at Erik Jameson ever since. Someday, perhaps, I'll succeed, but it's been harder than I thought it might be.

It's hard writing about a character with your own name; you frequently get accused of trying to write yourself into the game, the ultimate "Mary Sue" character, without the imagination needed to give them a different name. So it also became a moral imperative to kill my doppelganger, which I finally managed to do in SOTA64. So there's step 1 of my cunning plan accomplished. Now I just need to work out the time and the "give a damn" to fill in some of the blanks.

Okay, it's a clumsy ending, but there's the story of how I wound up as a character in the game world and what I've been trying to do ever since to correct it.

EDIT: Correcting a typo.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: Angelone on (15:20:31/10-25-10)
There can be only one. ;)
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: Patrick Goodman on (16:07:34/10-25-10)
sorry if i'm slow with this, but . . .
The 'Old Man' of T:M is likely to have been Patrick Goodman, founder and CEO of Cavalier Arms Ltd.  The dates of the repective deaths all but match . . .
Oh, and in case I haven't made this explicit: Yes, "The Old Man" in Target: Matrix was 'Patrick Goodman,' late CEO of Cavalier Arms. I thought it was pretty clear from the context of his comment in T:M, but just for the record....
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: freddieflatline on (16:35:00/10-25-10)
Once, long ago, the Earth cooled. Mountains rose, rivers flowed to the sea. This was before these forums. This was before Dumpshock. This was before Jackpoint. This was before the dinosaurs nobly sacrificed themselves to save the ascending mammals from the massive chunk of rock that fell from the sky and spelled their own doom.

This story is about one of those mammals. Indirectly, at least.

Before the forums mentioned above, there was the ShadowRN mailing list. I was a member there once, as was a chap named Erik Jameson. I frequently spoke on that mailing list about things I did and didn't like in the Shadowrun universe, and I often spoke of some of the home-grown things in my own campaign. One of these was a company called Cavalier Arms (named, for those who care, after a former girlfriend's preferred class in AD&D; she and I were still on speaking terms then...she was also this close to being the governor of Texas in Shadows of North America, but then things got ugly and I managed to get Jon Szeto to change it in time for submission).

Erik was writing for Mike Mulvihill at the time, for Corporate Download. Erik being (for reasons which surpass my understanding) a Fuchi fan, he had bid for (and won) the Novatech writeup for CDL. He wanted Miles Lanier to have his own personal weapons company, and asked me one day if I objected to him using Cavalier Arms. I did not, and told him so. Not much else was said about it for some time.

Then Corp Download hit the streets, and I buy it, and I go see how Cavalier fits into all of this. And I discover that there's a character named "Patrick Goodman" running the company and still owning a minority stake. It was at this point that I noticed how thin the fabric of reality actually was in places. It was also at this point that my own attempts to get involved in the freelancer pool for Mike and FASA both became a little ironic and a moral imperative.

I've been trying to get back at Erik Jameson ever since. Someday, perhaps, I'll succeed, but it's been harder than I thought it might be.

It's hard writing about a character with your own name; you frequently get accused of trying to write yourself into the game, the ultimate "Mary Sue" character, without the imagination needed to give them a different name. So it also became a moral imperative to kill my doppelganger, which I finally managed to do in SOTA64. So there's step 1 of my cunning plan accomplished. Now I just need to work out the time and the "give a damn" to fill in some of the blanks.

Okay, it's a clumsy ending, but there's the story of how I wound up as a character in the game world and what I've been trying to do ever since to correct it.

EDIT: Correcting a typo.

That is so cool.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: FastJack on (00:10:20/11-01-10)
Updated to match This Old Drone.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: FastJack on (15:49:49/12-15-10)
In case anyone's wondering about an update from War! and also the FastJack's Profiles project I'm working on:

It's been a hectic few months. Lots of job-searching which culminated in an offer last Wednesday for a job back in PA starting Jan 3rd. In other words, ever since it's been about setting up the move, packing the stuff, looking for a place PLUS the normal Holidays craziness.

I am still working on everything, but had to finally close it out last night until after the move since I packed the computer. Fortunately, the move should go pretty quickly and I should have updates coming in January!
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: FastJack on (23:54:49/12-24-10)
Merry Christmas! The Posters and Authors Index have both been updated to include information from War!
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List
Post by: FastJack on (00:21:56/01-23-11)
Updated Posters Index with information from MilSpecTech
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 4/27/11)
Post by: FastJack on (23:04:18/04-27-11)
Updated with Way of the Adept information.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 5/23/11)
Post by: FastJack on (00:29:44/05-24-11)
Updated with Spy Games goodies.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 5/23/11)
Post by: Patrick Goodman on (13:05:51/05-24-11)
You know, I haven't looked at these lately. In the Shadowland Authors file, it should be "Midnight Angel," not "Midnight Angle."
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 5/23/11)
Post by: FastJack on (13:26:49/05-24-11)
You know, I haven't looked at these lately. In the Shadowland Authors file, it should be "Midnight Angel," not "Midnight Angle."
Rassin' frassin' stupid typos...
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 6/14/11)
Post by: FastJack on (14:17:48/06-14-11)
You know, I haven't looked at these lately. In the Shadowland Authors file, it should be "Midnight Angel," not "Midnight Angle."
Updated this error, also changed the "blank" posts of our newest hacker to A. Nonymous on the list.

Oh, and updated the list to Gun Heaven.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 6/14/11)
Post by: Bull on (21:30:01/06-16-11)
Hrmm...  Should I mention we've slipped a little Shadowtalk into Missions, just to really mess with ya? :)

(We started putting little Seattle 2072 style blurbs for things like gangs and locations, and if it's something new, we make up new info.  So some of it's reprinted from Seattle 2072, but... Heh :))

Bull
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 6/14/11)
Post by: FastJack on (23:09:36/06-16-11)
Rassin' frassin' bulldrek!

I'll get right on it.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 6/14/11)
Post by: hobgoblin on (03:36:16/07-03-11)
hmm, 403...
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 7/5/11)
Post by: FastJack on (23:02:03/07-05-11)
Updated with Deadly Waves comments.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: FastJack on (22:49:53/08-10-11)
Updated with posts from Runner's Black Book and Street Legends.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: freddieflatline on (15:49:26/08-14-11)
Updated with posts from Runner's Black Book and Street Legends.

What is Runner's Black Book?  I have never heard of it.  Just wondering if you mean Mr. Johnson's Little Black Book?
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: FastJack on (16:28:42/08-14-11)
Updated with posts from Runner's Black Book and Street Legends.

What is Runner's Black Book?  I have never heard of it.  Just wondering if you mean Mr. Johnson's Little Black Book?
Runner's Black Book is the DTF compilation for MilSpecTech, This Old Drone, Gun Haven Heaven, Unfriendly Skies, and Deadly Waves. They updated some of the entries, Nightfire made some additional comments to the previous comments, and they had 9 new weapons in the Gun Heaven section.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: CanRay on (18:17:48/08-14-11)
And the reason I'm grating my teeth at buying everything twice.

Good marketing decision, however, I won't fault that.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: freddieflatline on (20:46:49/08-14-11)
Updated with posts from Runner's Black Book and Street Legends.

What is Runner's Black Book?  I have never heard of it.  Just wondering if you mean Mr. Johnson's Little Black Book?
Runner's Black Book is the DTF compilation for MilSpecTech, This Old Drone, Gun Haven Heaven, Unfriendly Skies, and Deadly Waves. They updated some of the entries, Nightfire made some additional comments to the previous comments, and they had 9 new weapons in the Gun Heaven section.

Where can you get this?  Also is it available to Demo Agents and is it going to be coming out in paper format?  Thanks:-)  Sorry to be nosy but I collect RPG stuff.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: CanRay on (20:50:10/08-14-11)
Runner's Black Book can be had at any FLGS that stocks Shadowrun books.  It's only coming out in paper format (DTF = Dead-Tree Format).  *Grabs your face*  Gotcher nose!
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: hobgoblin on (14:41:23/08-19-11)
Is there a updated profiles file for the Jackpoint users? Seems Street Legends had more temporary users then any other books to date...
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: FastJack on (14:50:14/08-19-11)
Is there a updated profiles file for the Jackpoint users? Seems Street Legends had more temporary users then any other books to date...
That was a side project of mine, but when Street Legends was announced, I put it on the back burner.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: CanRay on (14:57:43/08-19-11)
Is there a updated profiles file for the Jackpoint users? Seems Street Legends had more temporary users then any other books to date...
That was a side project of mine, but when Street Legends was announced, I put it on the back burner.
Well, time to move it back up to the front.  :P
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: FastJack on (13:38:38/08-31-11)
I was reminded of the Publishing timeline I put together showing when the documents were posted in Shadowland/Jackpoint. I added that to the opening post along with the Posters/Authors index.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: hobgoblin on (15:50:35/08-31-11)
Nice, makes it easier to dig up when a commenter first shows up.

Interesting, if i am reading it right /dev/grrl did some comments in 10 gangs and runners companion before she showed up with running wild.

Also, this demonstrates how badly delayed dawn of the artifacts have become.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: FastJack on (16:17:08/08-31-11)
The DotA books don't have exact dates. I'm basing them off "early 2072", "late January", "two weeks after..." type of comments.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: hobgoblin on (16:40:24/08-31-11)
heh, noted.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: TTNTM#2 on (22:24:31/08-31-11)
Hmmm... a guy I never read anything of has more posts than FastJack? I maybe should look into that .. (or is this data from "before the crash" ;D )
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: CanRay on (22:40:51/08-31-11)
Hmmm... a guy I never read anything of has more posts than FastJack? I maybe should look into that .. (or is this data from "before the crash" ;D )
Captain Chaos?  He ran ShadowLand, which turned into ShadowSEA and JackPoint after Crash 2.0.  He died defending ShadowLand long enough to get off the details of the nukes and EMP Bombs that were all around the world to every Corporation, Mr. Johnson, Fixer, and Shadowrunner that they had in their Rolodex (Which is almost everyone worthy of their name.).

He was what FastJack is today in the books.

*Pours a 40 on the curb*
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: FastJack on (23:07:14/08-31-11)
Hmmm... a guy I never read anything of has more posts than FastJack? I maybe should look into that .. (or is this data from "before the crash" ;D )
Captain Chaos?  He ran ShadowLand, which turned into ShadowSEA and JackPoint after Crash 2.0.  He died defending ShadowLand long enough to get off the details of the nukes and EMP Bombs that were all around the world to every Corporation, Mr. Johnson, Fixer, and Shadowrunner that they had in their Rolodex (Which is almost everyone worthy of their name.).

He was what FastJack is today in the books.

*Pours a 40 on the curb*
There is still no confirmation that he is not still around, thankyouverymuch.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: CanRay on (23:11:03/08-31-11)
They found the body.  He's deader than Dunkie.

As far as they know.  ;D
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: FastJack on (23:17:34/08-31-11)
They found the body.  He's deader than Dunkie.

As far as they know.  ;D
Yes, but JackBNimble did something to his "soul". And there's a rumor that a Technomancer gang over in the Asian Shadows has been "following" an e-ghost of Cap.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: Valashar on (00:51:26/09-01-11)
I'm fairly certain I've read a fiction blurb that dealt with Cap's e-ghost pulling together in a DIMR node, or maybe the Nexus, possibly calling itself Xaos? Not sure where I read it, might've been in a chunk of never-to-be-published stuff a former freelancer gave out.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: Longshot23 on (05:09:03/09-01-11)
Always, Always, ALWAYS salute to Captain Chaos . . .
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: CanRay on (10:12:00/09-01-11)
Yes, but JackBNimble did something to his "soul". And there's a rumor that a Technomancer gang over in the Asian Shadows has been "following" an e-ghost of Cap.
We only know that due to metagaming.

I'm fairly certain I've read a fiction blurb that dealt with Cap's e-ghost pulling together in a DIMR node, or maybe the Nexus, possibly calling itself Xaos? Not sure where I read it, might've been in a chunk of never-to-be-published stuff a former freelancer gave out.
Ancient History, and the Bad Things that happened.  So, now we'll never know how it'd have gone down.   :'(
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: FastJack on (11:23:13/09-01-11)
Yes, but JackBNimble did something to his "soul". And there's a rumor that a Technomancer gang over in the Asian Shadows has been "following" an e-ghost of Cap.
We only know that due to metagaming.

I'm fairly certain I've read a fiction blurb that dealt with Cap's e-ghost pulling together in a DIMR node, or maybe the Nexus, possibly calling itself Xaos? Not sure where I read it, might've been in a chunk of never-to-be-published stuff a former freelancer gave out.
Ancient History, and the Bad Things that happened.  So, now we'll never know how it'd have gone down.   :'(

Quote from: Unwired, p. 164
> It wouldn’t be the first time that the dead walked among us. In the virtual world, though, it’s hard to pinpoint the truth of such encounters. Just last week someone was banned from ShadowSea for claiming to have run into Captain Chaos in a DIMR node.
> Pistons

> Back in a bit. I have to look after an old friend’s grave.
> FastJack
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: CanRay on (11:29:53/09-01-11)
Body's still in the grave, I bet.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: FastJack on (12:02:55/09-01-11)
Body's still in the grave, I bet.
Yeah, but he might be an e-spirit now.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: CanRay on (12:05:06/09-01-11)
Body's still in the grave, I bet.
Yeah, but he might be an e-spirit now.
And the JackPoint knows this yet?

'Cause I'm sure he'd have gotten an invite if they had by now.  Oh, I'm so so so so waiting for that moment!  Clockwork's reaction is going to be EPIC!!!
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: FastJack on (12:14:21/09-01-11)
Body's still in the grave, I bet.
Yeah, but he might be an e-spirit now.
And the JackPoint knows this yet?

'Cause I'm sure he'd have gotten an invite if they had by now.  Oh, I'm so so so so waiting for that moment!  Clockwork's reaction is going to be EPIC!!!
They don't know. Remember, it's a rumor that Pistons heard. Although I'd like to think he's out there, trying to figure out what he is.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: CanRay on (12:16:11/09-01-11)
They don't know. Remember, it's a rumor that Pistons heard. Although I'd like to think he's out there, trying to figure out what he is.
Don't need to be an e-ghost to ponder that...
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: The Wyrm Ouroboros on (03:48:15/09-30-11)
... clearly I need to post more often.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: CanRay on (11:37:32/09-30-11)
"I Post Therefor I Am"?    ???
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: The Wyrm Ouroboros on (00:21:02/10-01-11)
A number of the writers both current and past used to play on Shadowland BBS (http://www.shadowland.org).  As something of a call-out to those of us who played there, they dropped some of our names into the posts.  TWO is in there gabbing about the Ares tactical maneuvering around Silicon Valley during the rise of Saito in SF.

But yeah -- Publish or Perish...
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: jonathanc on (12:31:56/10-18-11)
Given that the rumors regarding Capt. Chaos being an e-ghost have been around for quite some time...what are the odds of him making a re-appearance in the books?
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: CanRay on (12:36:30/10-18-11)
This being Shadowrun, anywhere between 0% and 100%.  ;D

And that's what I love about the game!
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: jonathanc on (12:47:46/10-18-11)
I miss the guy.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: CanRay on (12:48:54/10-18-11)
We all do.  Which is why his return just can't be, "Oh, Captain is back, and he's an E-Ghost."

It has to be EPIC!
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: jonathanc on (13:02:57/10-18-11)
Hmm....they've already done Haley's Comet, dropped a nuke on a major American city, had Japan invade another major American city, overthrown the power structure in Tir Tairngire.....what's left?

I mean, it'd be kind of ridiculous to have yet another worldwide crash, but maybe a close call with something out of the deep resonance and Cap saves the day? I'd read it.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: CanRay on (13:04:36/10-18-11)
What's left?

Man...  Don't suggest that to a writer...  ;D
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: FastJack on (14:07:22/10-18-11)
The only thing worse than all of that, jonathanc, would be something totally evil. Like Flesh-form Insect spirits inhabiting highly trained covert ops soldiers from Knight Errant or Ares.

...

I've said too much.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: CanRay on (18:52:30/10-18-11)
Dunkie's Second Will comes out at long last.

"What, you thought I was done with the first one?  That barely touched my vast resources..."
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: Valashar on (18:58:48/10-18-11)
The only thing worse than all of that, jonathanc, would be something totally evil. Like Flesh-form Insect spirits inhabiting highly trained covert ops soldiers from Knight Errant or Ares.

...

I've said too much.

Nah, you haven't said too much. You've just given enough for a plug of Street Legends. :)
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: Crimsondude on (07:32:30/10-19-11)
The only thing worse than all of that, jonathanc, would be something totally evil. Like Flesh-form Insect spirits inhabiting highly trained covert ops soldiers from Knight Errant or Ares.

...

I've said too much.
No, there's something worse.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: FastJack on (08:10:50/10-19-11)
The only thing worse than all of that, jonathanc, would be something totally evil. Like Flesh-form Insect spirits inhabiting highly trained covert ops soldiers from Knight Errant or Ares.

...

I've said too much.
No, there's something worse.
Female elf shedim stripper ninjas?
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: Longshot23 on (11:42:32/10-19-11)
The only thing worse than all of that, jonathanc, would be something totally evil. Like Flesh-form Insect spirits inhabiting highly trained covert ops soldiers from Knight Errant or Ares.

...

I've said too much.
No, there's something worse.
Female elf shedim stripper ninjas?

Have people gone retro with Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles flashbacks?
 :P  :o
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: CanRay on (13:47:13/10-19-11)
The only thing worse than all of that, jonathanc, would be something totally evil. Like Flesh-form Insect spirits inhabiting highly trained covert ops soldiers from Knight Errant or Ares.

...

I've said too much.
No, there's something worse.
Female elf shedim stripper ninjas?
Have people gone retro with Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles flashbacks?
 :P  :o
No, they'd be SURGEd Female Elf Shedim Stripper Ninjas then.  :P
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: Fizzygoo on (17:20:27/10-19-11)
Female elf shedim stripper ninjas?

Flesh'ns; Female Elf Shedim Ninja Strippers now it 3 new flavors: Lime, Grave, and Salamander Blue.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: Crimsondude on (18:00:30/10-19-11)
They're not strippers.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: The Wyrm Ouroboros on (18:23:47/10-19-11)
Well, thank god for that...
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: CanRay on (18:49:53/10-19-11)
No, it's just that they don't strip off their clothing.

Think about that for a moment.  *Evil Grin*
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: Argent on (18:43:42/10-21-11)
No, it's just that they don't strip off their clothing.

Think about that for a moment.  *Evil Grin*

Ew?

Now that's a fun image seared into my brain.  :'(
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: CanRay on (20:40:56/10-21-11)
That's what you get for playing for so long and not inviting me.  ;D
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: Argent on (10:30:52/10-22-11)
That's what you get for playing for so long and not inviting me.  ;D

Haha, consider yourself invited then.  If I ever get into another message board game of Shadowrun, I'll give you a shout.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: FastJack on (23:15:51/10-29-11)
Updated to Artifacts Unbound.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: FastJack on (21:59:01/11-30-11)
Updated with Conspiracy Theories.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: Fatal Error on (15:16:18/12-18-11)
One thing I've been hoping to see is an updated list, maybe with some background blurbs on the current list of regular Jackpointers. Something like the linked PDF over on the Shadowrun wikia site. I've been driving myself relatively crazy searching through the Author and Postings lists you made FastJack (thanks, by the way, they have helped a lot) but having a short, concise list like that would save me tons of time when I'm trying to keep everything straight for my games.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: FastJack on (16:07:16/12-18-11)
Well, they are asking which Shadowrunners/Jackpointers you'd want to know more about over here (http://forums.shadowrun4.com/index.php?topic=5421.0).
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: Crimsondude on (04:49:35/12-22-11)
We have an internal spreadsheet on the JackPointers and all of the guests. It's something we've discussed, but let me also say that I would LOVE to release a bunch of free PDF lists (JackPointers and guests, spy agencies, [elite] military/security units, sports teams, etc.). We just don't have time.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: The Wyrm Ouroboros on (05:31:17/12-22-11)
Clearly, you need more freelancers who can edit.  You know, like me.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: FastJack on (07:34:49/12-22-11)
Clearly, you need more freelancers who can edit.  You know, like me.
Heck, I'd volunteer for that job.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: Patrick Goodman on (09:06:53/12-22-11)
Heck, I'd volunteer for that job.
The both of you should contact Jason about errata duty.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: Fatal Error on (16:57:14/12-22-11)
Now I find myself extremely hopeful that we might see something like this in the future. Just the time it saves me using the Shadowtalkers PDF is not to be taken lightly. On average I'd say I reference it a few times a week, at least during those times I'm doing heavy research on a game. There are plenty of guests on Jackpoint, or even regulars in some cases, that I really don't use in any way in my games chiefly because I really don't know even a little blurb about their specialty or focus.

On a side note, something that might amuse a few people. The folks I play with have actually used PM on a popular social networking site to hold a Jackpoint conversation from time to time. Just a little idea my wife had that really helped with immersion a bit. Nothing as drastic as some people I've seen creating entire messageboards just for Shadowrun, but it was creative and fun.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: Wakshaani on (17:09:24/12-22-11)
I know that I'd *love* to get an updated Jackpointers list together. The one you passed my way, James, is nice and complete, but the format it's in is a program that I don't have. Trying to print it out didn't quite work either. CLOSE, but the thing was too wide, I suppose, so it's three sheets abreast. Usable, tho! So I have been. :)

I'm adding a guest for my section, by the by, but I don't expect there will be a need for them long-term. I would have used a regular, but no one had the one thing I needed, so I had to invent someone. That, of course, might change as drafts move along the process. We'll see!
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: Crimsondude on (18:36:41/12-22-11)
I wish I could afford to finance a proper revamp of Shadowland.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: CanRay on (18:37:49/12-22-11)
Maybe posts of ShadowSEA?
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: Bull on (20:05:16/12-22-11)
James is speaking of the old Shadowland website back in the day, not the actual Shadowrun Shadowland :)
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: Crimsondude on (21:08:32/12-22-11)
Well, I don't mean the real ones that criminals and mercenaries use.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: CanRay on (21:48:49/12-22-11)
We're Role Players.  We read books and most of us know computers beyond the ability of the average Politico can understand.

We might as well BE Criminals and Mercenaries as far as they're concerned.  :P
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: Wakshaani on (00:28:32/12-23-11)
We're Role Players.  We read books and most of us know computers beyond the ability of the average Politico can understand.

We might as well BE Criminals and Mercenaries as far as they're concerned.  :P

<.<

>.>

Is this where I should mention that I'm running for office again next year?
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: Crimsondude on (01:09:36/12-23-11)
You're not average.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: CanRay on (01:10:11/12-23-11)
I said the average one.  Where do you think that puts you, Wakshaani?  (And James Ninja'd me on that fact.)  You can post on a forum and are a gamer, which means you have imagination.  And read.

Things that have been missing from politicos in a lot of ways for the past too damned long.  Damned Celebrity Contest now, it feels.

Anyhow, what office?
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: Wakshaani on (01:58:15/12-23-11)
State rep. Nothing big (yet).
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: CanRay on (11:17:24/12-23-11)
Good luck, wish I had a Fake SIN to vote for you with.

That's System Identification Number, friendly CSIS Agents watching the Internet, not Social Insurance Number.  ;D
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: Simagal on (14:01:08/12-23-11)
You can post on a forum and are a gamer, which means you have imagination.  And read.


Imagination and the ability to read are undesired traits in politics these days.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: CanRay on (16:01:54/12-23-11)
You can post on a forum and are a gamer, which means you have imagination.  And read.
Imagination and the ability to read are undesired traits in politics these days.
I won't tell if you won't.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 12/27/11)
Post by: FastJack on (08:53:55/12-28-11)
Heh... Updated the files last night and forgot to post a "bump".

As such, they have now been updated to include entries from State of the Art: 2073 and Corporate Intrigue.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 12/27/11)
Post by: Murrdox on (13:28:35/01-06-12)
I could have sworn Catalyst had a list of Jackpoint personalities on the main website awhile back in with the FAQs and Erratas and such.  The list was unfortunately outdated, but it had a quick two sentence personality summary for all of our Jackpointers.  I've looked everywhere and I can't seem to find it.

I'm working on coming up with some faux Jackpoint-esque campaign material to hand out to my players, and I'd like to toss some well-known names into the list, but other than some of the obvious ones like Puck and Fastjack I don't really have their personalities memorized.

The list of users in this thread is a great resource, but is that personality list still out there, maybe in an updated form?  I'd love to know who is a Shaman, who is a Hermetic mage, who is a Shadowrunner, etc...
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 12/27/11)
Post by: FastJack on (14:16:29/01-06-12)
That would be the Shadowtalker List they had up for a while. Let me check with Jason and see if it's okay for me to post it up on the web. If not, I'll send you a copy.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 12/27/11)
Post by: Lysanderz on (14:20:46/01-06-12)
Speaking of Puck.....

his pages in Street Legends were awesome. A very in depth look at a hacker recluse, very real and interesting. Reminds me of a friend of mine, of course she got out of the recluse stage and into the "Profits profits profits" stage. Not as a hacker, as a game designer.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 12/27/11)
Post by: Fatal Error on (16:02:04/01-06-12)
Looks like I'm not the only one who'd like to see an updated Shadowtalker's list.

HINT HINT

 ;)
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 12/27/11)
Post by: Wakshaani on (22:46:02/01-06-12)
That Shadowtalker list took me a while to dig out of the recesses of the 'net a year or so back. If there *is* an updated one (Other than the James Miers one, of course), I'd love to have it.

Then again, depending on the time i get in the near future, I'm planning on making one myself that's ... gonna be insane.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 12/27/11)
Post by: Longshot23 on (01:28:43/01-07-12)
I have a 2-page PDF that talks about Shadowtalkers by name, profession and very brief description. It's dated March 2006.
 is that the one referred to?
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 12/27/11)
Post by: FastJack on (09:53:43/01-07-12)
I have a 2-page PDF that talks about Shadowtalkers by name, profession and very brief description. It's dated March 2006.
 is that the one referred to?

Most likely. I'm checking with Jason in case there is a specific reason this is no longer available on the main site.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 12/27/11)
Post by: Murrdox on (12:53:02/01-07-12)
Thanks for the message, I got the PDF now!  Yes, this is exactly what I was looking for.  I'd love to see this list get updated.  I just got "Corporate Guide" for Christmas and I've been eagerly consuming it's fluffy goodness.  The Jackpoint conversation in this book is better than in some past books in my opinion (sadly better than the 6th World Almanac, even though there are a lot of other things I love about that book) and I'd love to see some of the entries for the newer Jackpoint personalities that show up in Corporate Guide that aren't mentioned on the list.

If there's a petition I can sign to have it updated, count me in!

On a related note, if someone has a cool Word template that I can use to make a document look like ShadowSea, shoot it my way.  I've been working on customizing one for my players but so far instead of 2072 Matrix ShadowSea, it sort of looks like an internet page circa 1997.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 12/27/11)
Post by: snowRaven on (18:59:38/01-10-12)
I just noticed that 'Bug City' seems to be missing from the list of publications.

Judging by Captain Chaos' post in the first chapter, it was published on Shadowlands on January 21, 2056.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 12/27/11)
Post by: FastJack on (23:07:50/01-10-12)
Hmm... So it is. I'll get on that.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 1/13/12)
Post by: FastJack on (10:59:54/01-13-12)
Updated the lists with Street Legends Supplemental and added in the missing Bug City information.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 2/8/12)
Post by: FastJack on (13:27:23/02-08-12)
Updated with statistics from Jet Set.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 2/8/12)
Post by: Crimsondude on (14:21:21/02-08-12)
Holy crap, dude. That was fast.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 2/8/12)
Post by: shrike on (14:47:16/02-08-12)
Holy crap, dude. That was fast.
Well, he is called Fastjack.  ;D
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 2/8/12)
Post by: Patrick Goodman on (15:13:02/02-08-12)
Still...man, that was fast!
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 2/8/12)
Post by: FastJack on (16:49:38/02-08-12)
;D

Slow day at work.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 2/8/12)
Post by: CanRay on (18:14:14/02-08-12)
Holy crap, dude. That was fast.
Well, he is called Fastjack.  ;D
That's what the ladies call...  *Sees FastJack standing behind me with a BanHammer*

...

I'll be good.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 2/8/12)
Post by: hobgoblin on (03:22:41/02-10-12)
Just be glad it was not the jackhammer.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 2/15/12)
Post by: FastJack on (12:41:00/02-16-12)
Updated with Safehouses information.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 3/15/12)
Post by: FastJack on (14:17:27/03-15-12)
Updated with posts and articles from The Twilight Horizon
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 4/17/12)
Post by: FastJack on (16:13:18/04-17-12)
Updated the files for SL: Home Edition and Parabotany.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 7/21/12)
Post by: FastJack on (14:22:07/07-21-12)
Sorry for the lack of updates, been busy with real-life projects. The files have been updated with material from Gun Heaven 2, Magical Societies, Shadowrun 2050. The 2050 book has been assumed dated July 1st, 2050 for purposes of these documents.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 7/21/12)
Post by: Mason on (01:09:06/07-22-12)
Having just had my attention called to this file, I want to thank you for compiling this. It has saved me oodles of work, since I am putting together the best profiles I can of Shadowland/Jackpoint posters not yet covered in detail.

By the way, does any book or novel go further into the lives of Captain Chaos and Fastjack? Anywhere that offers some real insight into them in the manner that 10 Jackpointers or Street Legends did?
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 7/21/12)
Post by: Mirikon on (12:39:08/07-22-12)
Closest you get for Fastjack is a bio in Target: Matrix. It boils down to: big time hacker, knows a lot of people in data havens, has a lot of icons, and we're just guessing about anything to do with anything past that.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 7/21/12)
Post by: CanRay on (12:42:08/07-22-12)
Closest you get for Fastjack is a bio in Target: Matrix. It boils down to: big time hacker, knows a lot of people in data havens, has a lot of icons, and we're just guessing about anything to do with anything past that.
You forgot:  "Deletes anything that's posted about his history."  ;D

Which means a major Resonance Realms trip would reveal a lot.  Probably a lot of misinformation he spread about himself, then deleted.  He's tricky like that.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 7/21/12)
Post by: Mirikon on (13:43:52/07-22-12)
Closest you get for Fastjack is a bio in Target: Matrix. It boils down to: big time hacker, knows a lot of people in data havens, has a lot of icons, and we're just guessing about anything to do with anything past that.
You forgot:  "Deletes anything that's posted about his history."  ;D

Which means a major Resonance Realms trip would reveal a lot.  Probably a lot of misinformation he spread about himself, then deleted.  He's tricky like that.
Don't count on him not having traded favors with some otaku/technomancers for some select 'edits' to the Endless Archives.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 7/21/12)
Post by: CanRay on (16:04:49/07-22-12)
Don't count on him not having traded favors with some otaku/technomancers for some select 'edits' to the Endless Archives.
Oh, I'm not.  Especially considering who his daughter is.  ;D
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 7/21/12)
Post by: Necrogigas on (07:20:19/07-30-12)
If I may inquire, why have the Horizon and Boardroom Backstabs adventures not been included on this list?
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 7/21/12)
Post by: FastJack on (07:33:27/07-30-12)
If I may inquire, why have the Horizon and Boardroom Backstabs adventures not been included on this list?
Because they do not have any comments from Jackpointers in them. These lists are for "in-universe" publishings only.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/8/12)
Post by: FastJack on (17:01:56/08-08-12)
Updated to the new releases: MilSpecTech 2, The Clutch of Dragons
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/8/12)
Post by: Wakshaani on (10:11:09/08-11-12)
Geeze you're fast!

Do you have a program to do this, or do you do it all by hand?
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/8/12)
Post by: FastJack on (12:28:52/08-11-12)
By hand, in Excel.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/8/12)
Post by: Wakshaani on (13:41:33/08-11-12)
Egads.

If you tell me that you have all the Shadowtalk seperated, so you can produce everyone's lines on demand (IE, What has Stone ever posted?), then I'll just fall over and die.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/8/12)
Post by: Crimsondude on (14:04:43/08-11-12)
No, but it's easy to collect them all in aggregate Acrobat searches.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/8/12)
Post by: Wakshaani on (14:10:41/08-11-12)
...

You know, I think the only thing I've ever used Acrobat for was to read a PDF and/or to print it. I didn't even know it *had* a search function.

Gee Wak, how about you, I don't know, push buttons sometime. Sheesh.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/8/12)
Post by: Critias on (15:42:43/08-11-12)
...

You know, I think the only thing I've ever used Acrobat for was to read a PDF and/or to print it. I didn't even know it *had* a search function.

Gee Wak, how about you, I don't know, push buttons sometime. Sheesh.
Oh, yeah.  PDF searching can be a real lifesaver.  Funny, the tricks we learn for freelancing that then carry over into post-graduate work so well.  ;)
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/8/12)
Post by: Wakshaani on (19:57:17/08-11-12)
Back in '84, my honors class were the first ones in teh state to get a computer lab. In '90, I went into university as a computer major. I was using DARPnet via our university connection, grabbed Lynx, a non-graphical browser, as the World Wide Web was invented, andmarveled at Netscape's abiliity to bring pictures.

And today, I'm flailing at a keyboard, finding basicfunctions in software I've had for a decade.

...

Whendid I get old?!

(Oh right, Tuesday, when I turned 40. So! Old!)

-- Creaky Bones Wak
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/8/12)
Post by: CanRay on (20:55:50/08-11-12)
At least you didn't wreck your arm and turn your typing to crap like I did.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/8/12)
Post by: The Wyrm Ouroboros on (21:36:56/08-11-12)
You sure you didn't always type that way, CanRay?  ;)

Really, to make the best of everything, we need all the older stuff PDFed - if only the text.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/8/12)
Post by: CanRay on (22:48:10/08-11-12)
You sure you didn't always type that way, CanRay?  ;)
Yes.  I used to be in the top 2% of Data Entry Clerks in terms of speed.

Now, I'd be lucky to type fast enough to keep the job.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/8/12)
Post by: Patrick Goodman on (10:12:14/08-13-12)
Whendid I get old?!

(Oh right, Tuesday, when I turned 40. So! Old!)

-- Creaky Bones Wak
Don't make me strike you with my cane, youngster.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/8/12)
Post by: CanRay on (15:48:08/08-13-12)
*Sighs*  When did "Hold muh beer an' watch this!!!"  turn to "Git off mah lawn!!!"?
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/8/12)
Post by: The Wyrm Ouroboros on (17:47:13/08-13-12)
According to the research spoken of by David Dobbs in National Geographic (http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/print/2011/10/teenage-brains/dobbs-text), your mid-twenties.  Before that, being seen as cool is more important than debilitating lifelong injury.  After that, adaptive flexibility turns into faster neuron speed - or in SR game terms, the little otaku bippies go Fading.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/8/12)
Post by: Crimsondude on (18:28:25/08-13-12)
Snow Crash says "Twenty-Five."
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/8/12)
Post by: The Wyrm Ouroboros on (04:21:16/08-29-12)
Shadowland Posters note:  Wyrm-Watcher is most likely the same as the more verbose Wyrm Watcher.

Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/8/12)
Post by: FastJack on (08:13:39/08-29-12)
Shadowland Posters note:  Wyrm-Watcher is most likely the same as the more verbose Wyrm Watcher.
Hmm... Surprised my code didn't catch that. Although, I think it's because there were a few books since the last time Wyrm Watcher posted. I'll take a look and update ASAP.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/8/12)
Post by: FastJack on (20:38:35/08-29-12)
Yep, updated the document, there were a few others with the same issue.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/8/12)
Post by: The Wyrm Ouroboros on (01:57:15/08-30-12)
Also, looking for an updated copy of the JackPoint User List pdf that includes /dev/grrl - if there is one.  If there isn't one ... *cracks whip over FastJack's head*  Get to work!!

Built something 'right quick' on this ...

[spoiler]
   NAME      PROFESSION      DESCRIPTION      JACKPOINT ARTICLE(S)   
   /dev/grrl   Student      New runner, elven teenager with NeoNET wageslave parents.  Under Kane's wing.   Attitude (p150, 160, 167), Corporate Guide (p32), Feral Cities (p121), Running Wild (p195), Safehouses (p4), Spy Games (p142), Street Legends Supplemental (p13), Vice (p83)   
   2XL      Smuggler      Knows about street level practicalities all over the world.      10 Gangs (p4), Attitude (p38), Runner's Companion (p28), Vice (p44)   
   Am-Mut      Fixer      Nubian. Knows black markets and fencing. Rumored to have Apep Consortium connections.      Arsenal (p6), Jet Set (p119), Vice (p150)   
   Arete      Seer      Member of Seers’ Guild. Irish Caucasian. Knows elven and European high society, and omens.      Artifacts Unbound (p127), Feral Cities (p117), Street Legends Supplemental (p30)   
   Aufheben      Anarchist      Member of Black Star (see Loose Alliances). Sharply political (left rad) but not dogmatic.      Vice (p187), War! (p51, 66)   
   Axis Mundi      Street Shaman      Better with spirits than people; former corp fast-tracker. Deep respect for spirits.      Corporate Enclaves (p118), Runner Havens (p56), Spy Games (p136)   
   Baka Dabora      Salaryman      Handle Japanese for “tall tale of idiots.” Snarky. Well versed in Japanacorps, Japan.      Street Legends (p104)   
   Beaker      Tech-Wiz      Expert in demolitions, materials, architecture          
   Black Mamba      Mercenary      Pragmatist. Worked in worse hellholes in the world. Freelance. Survivor.      10 Gangs (p2), Corporate Enclaves (p121), Corporate Intrigue (p31), Street Legends (p14, 66)   
   Butch      Street Doc      Former combat medic. No scruples. Good at what she does.      Attitude (p105), Augmentation (p6, 16, 26, 56), Vice (p144)   
   Clockwork      Tech-Wiz      Hacker-mercenary. Likes to make things work. Sells designs after testing. Technophile.      Artifacts Unbound (p90), Feral Cities (p119), Street Legends Supplemental (p22, 26), The Twilight Horizon (p55)   
   Cosmo      Johnson/Fixer      Former corp raider, former anti-corp radical (in youth). Cynical.      Corporate Enclaves (p116), Corporate Guide (p6, 196, 202), Corporate Intrigue (p5), Runner Havens (p94), Spy Games (p38)   
   DangerSensei      Former Company Man      Security expert. Hispanic. Recently retired.      Conspiracy Theories (p30), Corporate Guide (p145), Spy Games (p122), Vice (p174), War! (p95)   
   Dr. Spin      Cool Hunter, Snoop      Familiar with Horizon, memetics, advertising, marketing, trends, culture, media.      Attitude (p108, 115, 116), Jet Set (p56), State of the Art: 2073 (p3), The Twilight Horizon (p91), War! (p28)   
   Ecotope      Environmental Radical      Euro conservationist, Fire-Bringer magician, rational, prefers facts to proselytizing      Artifacts Unbound (p97), Corporate Guide (p214), Dragons of the Sixth World (p166), Loose Alliances (p6), Parabotany (p40), Running Wild (p7, 88), Spy Games (p91)   
   Elijah      Daredevil Archaeologist      Dedicated to uncovering secret truths and hidden histories.      Artifacts Unbound (p6), Loose Alliances (p72)   
   Ethernaut      Hermetic Magician      Former Mitsuhama magician; specialist at astral recon/tracking. Rational.      Artifacts Unbound (p75), Augmentation (p143), Running Wild (p170), Street Magic (p78)   
   Fastjack      Hacker Extraordinaire      Everybody knows Fastjack. :)      10 Jackpointers (p3), Attitude (p5, 114), Conspiracy Theories (p9, 10), Seattle 2072 (p187), Street Legends (p4, 70, 148)   
   Fatima      Mage      Survived the Night of Rage - she’s getting old. Expert on smart running, metahumanity, Seattle      Runner Havens (p62, 68), Street Magic (p19), Year of the Comet (p46)   
   Fianchetto      Ex-Spook      Approx. 60 years old. Formerly in intelligence world. Rumored ties with Catholic Church.      Attitude (p38), Conspiracy Theories (p16), Jet Set (p5), Spy Games (p32, 171), Street Legends (p78, 100), Vice (p160)   
   Frosty      Unspecified      Jane Foster, daughter of Ehran the Scribe. Initiate hermetic mage.      10 Gangs (p10), Artifacts Unbound (p8), Attitude (p142), Jet Set (p75), Street Legends (p124, 136)   
   Glasswalker      Shaman      Interested in Amazonian phenomena. Expert on Ghost Cartels. Former Paraguayan shaman-scholar      Feral Cities (p114), War! (p57, 90, 97)   
   Glitch      Hacker      Never seen in person. Specializes in stealth Matrix surveillance and intrusions.      Runner's Companion (p22), Unwired (p82)   
   Goat Foot      Unknown      IRM supporter, one of the few female Muslim scholars in Europe.      Feral Cities (p123), Vice (p101)   
   Hannibelle      Hacker      Rarely seen in person - secretly a ghoul. Used to work for Tamanous.      Feral Cities (p20, 42), Seattle 2072 (p179), Street Legends (p140), Vice (p148)   
   Hard Exit      Former Co. Woman      Former CAS soldier/MP. Specializes in law enforcement, low intensity warfare. Bitter toward AZT.      Corporate Guide (p198), Seattle 2072 (p179), Spy Games (p133), War! (p5, 65, 80, 81, 82)   
   Haze      Face/Mage      Leads runner team but fixer/info-broker on side. Specializes in blending in.      10 Gangs (p16), Attitude (p24), Corporate Enclaves (p104), Street Legends - Home Edition (p9)   
   Icarus      Info Broker      Has lots of inside connections.      Corporate Guide (p122), Street Legends (p50)   
   Jimmy No      Wujen      Expert on magical traditions and groups, and magical esoterica      Runner Havens (p54)   
   Kane      Pirate      “Most notorious man in the CAS,” wanted in 17+ countries.      Feral Cities (p86)   
   Kat O' Nine Tales      Rocker      Lead singer for “Grim Aurora” industrial/punk band. Adept. Specializes in physical security.      Attitude (p45, 110, 118), Runner Havens (p69, 101, 108), Seattle 2072 (p114, 150, 195), War! (p91)   
   Kay St. Irregular      Political Wonk/Lobbyist      Play on K Street, home of lobbyist firms in DC. Knows politics, espionage, law, corps.      Attitude (p40), Conspiracy Theories (p50, 124, 151), Jet Set (p85), Rotten Apple: Manhattan (p5), Runner Havens (p71), Seattle 2072 (p140, 192), Spy Games (p21, 26, 53), The Rotten Apple: Manhattan (p5), The Twilight Horizon (p66)   
   Kia      Johnson      Korean/Japanese. Name translates to “Rising from Asia” in Chinese characters.      Attitude (p27, 33), Corporate Enclaves (p63), Corporate Guide (p32, 145, 211), Corporate Intrigue (p47), Runner Havens (p35)   
   Lyran      Wolf Shaman      Knows alchemy, telesma, talislegging, smuggling, shamanism.      Seattle 2072 (p155), Street Legends (p58), Street Magic (p76), Vice (p108)   
   Ma'Fan      Adept Thief      Mandarin for ‘trouble’. Cat adept. Has rivalry with Mika. Machines and devices don’t like her.      Attitude (p137), Corporate Guide (p145), Street Legends (p46), Way of the Adept (p5)   
   Man-of-Many-Names      Shaman      Around since 1st Edition. Powerful. Snow white hair. Knows magic, mystic secrets, spirits.          
   Marcos      Radical Rebel      Neo-communist gunrunner. Knows Aztlan, Yucatan, gunrunning, Ghost Cartels, jungle, Genesis Consortium.      Corporate Enclaves (p123), Runner Havens (p124), Street Legends (p10), War! (p33, 72, 78, 84, 91)   
   Mihoshi Oni      Bodyguard      Yakuza. Pretty. Born in Hawaii, lived in Tir na nOg, Japan. Knows Evo, Yak, Japan, Russia, Metahumanity      10 Gangs (p8), Corporate Enclaves (p107), Jet Set (p110), Seattle 2072 (p174), Vice (p46)   
   Mika      Adept Thief      Amerind. Name means “intelligent raccoon” in Lakota. Infiltration expert. Rival of Ma’fan. Technophile.      Corporate Guide (p146), Seattle 2072 (p196), Street Legends (p34), Way of the Adept (p6)   
   Mr. Bonds      Broker      Rumored to work with Brokerage X.      Attitude (p117, 134), Corporate Guide (p194), Seattle 2072 (p160), Spy Games (p62), Street Legends (p158)   
   Nephrine      Scientist      Ex-corp biochemist, works for betaware black clinic. Dabbles in stock market.      Arsenal (p70), Augmentation (p57, 138), Corporate Guide (p224)   
   Netcat      Technomancer      Relates better to computers than people. Has a strange, almost alien, outlook.  Slamm-O!'s wife, mother of child.      Attitude (p41), Unwired (p130)   
   Orbital DK      Rigger, Space Scavenger      Loves space, hates earthbound life. Hiding from corp without space assets.          
   Picador      Mercenary      Former second in command of Matador. Hates ARGUS and merc org MET 2000.      Gun Heaven (p3), Runner Havens (p120, 130)   
   Pistons      Combat Hacker      Knows data havens, hacking.      10 Gangs (p18), Artifacts Unbound (p82), Attitude (p143), Conspiracy Theories (p118, 141), Parabotany (p43), Street Legends (p26), Street Legends Supplemental (p8), Unwir    
   Plan 9      Transhumanist      Likes big words and crazy ideas. Knows transhumanism, Evo, cults, theoretical tech, space      Attitude (p111, 150), Conspiracy Theories (p10, 135, 137), Corporate Guide (p78), Corporate Intrigue (p69), Spy Games (p139, 145), Street Legends (p120), Street Legends - Home Edition (p4), Street Legends Supplemental (p38), The Twilight Horizon (p81)   
   Puck      Technomancer      Faded otaku, rumored technomancer.      Runner Havens (p58)   
   Red Anya      Weapons      Dealer Red Army vet, arms dealer in Germany. Speaks Russian, German, Polish, English.      Attitude (p141), Corporate Guide (p189), Vice (p6, 77, 80, 98)   
   Rigger X      Rigger, Space Scavenger      Asian. Ex-MCT company rigger. Skilled in electronic spycraft . Permits no opposition to survive.      Attitude (p147), Corporate Enclaves (p76), Corporate Guide (p113), Street Legends (p108)   
   Riser      Assassin      Ex-ganger, leader of the Smokers’ Club shadowteam. Expert on wetwork, gangs, Seattle.      10 Gangs (p1), Attitude (p36), Conspiracy Theories (p137), Runner Havens (p89), Seattle 2072 (p180), Street Legends (p18, 112), Vice (p105, 118)   
   Slamm-O!      Matrix Vandal      2nd generation runner. All business with Johnsons, but has angry streak. Cartoonish icon.  Netcat's husband, father of child.      Attitude (p90, 145), Street Legends - Home Edition (p2), Unwired (p85), Vice (p144, 154)   
   Smiling Bandit      Researcher/Hacker      Highly skilled hacker, well-versed in many science/tech topics. Only takes jobs that satisfy his curiosity.      Vice (p131)   
   Snopes      Hacker      Middle-aged. Specializes in Matrix rumors, urban legends. Cynical, skeptical.      Artifacts Unbound (p10, 42), Conspiracy Theories (p14, 27, 35, 38, 58), Corporate Guide (p104), Corporate Intrigue (p20, 82), Jet Set (p143), State of the Art: 2073 (p10), War! (p15, 70)   
   Sounder      Underwater Rigger      Specializes in smuggling runs between Seattle, Salish, Tir Tairngire. Lost eye in smuggling operation.      Deadly Waves (p3)   
   Sticks      Bounty Hunter      Asian. Former Knight Errant. Raised in Ares orphanage.      Corporate Guide (p48), Feral Cities (p6, 17, 43, 56), Street Legends Supplemental (p34), Vice (p64)   
   Sunshine      Snoop/Media Pirate      Former KSAF stringer. “Sunshine is the best disinfectant.” Media expert.      Artifacts Unbound (p20, 50, 119), Attitude (p68, 112, 140), Conspiracy Theories (p29), Corporate Guide (p92, 192), Corporate Intrigue (p38), Jet Set (p34, 97), Street Legends (p90, 154), The Twilight Horizon (p10, 28, 37, 44, 109)   
   Traveler Jones      Smuggler      Vagabond shadow-courier. Will get anything anywhere for a price.      10 Gangs (p12), Arsenal (p98), Attitude (p63), Corporate Enclaves (p58, 114), Feral Cities (p45), Runner Havens (p9), Spy Games (p6, 72)   
   Turbo Bunny      Rigger/Mechanic      Greasemonkey and former BTL chiphead.      Attitude (p78, 148), The Twilight Horizon (p18, 145), This Old Drone (p3)   
   Winterhawk      Hermetic Magician      British. Retired shadowrunner, current thaumaturgy professor. Still does occasional jobs for Draco Foundation.      Conspiracy Theories (p86), Corporate Enclaves (p54), Corporate Guide (p208), Feral Cities (p110), Street Legends (p22, 74), Street Magic (p76), The Twilight Horizon (p121)   
                        

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Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/8/12)
Post by: FastJack on (08:23:38/08-30-12)
The Authors PDF lists the in-world authors of articles in the various sourcebooks. The bio for Jackpointers hasn't been updated in a while, but we do know that /dev/grrl is a elven teenager with corp wageslave parents.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/8/12)
Post by: CanRay on (10:00:03/08-30-12)
/dev/grrl is a student of NeoNet and Kane.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/8/12)
Post by: The Wyrm Ouroboros on (03:19:47/08-31-12)
Thanks, both.  Adjusted.

Mostly I built that so that I could look at their IC writing style for future proposals and writing.  :)
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 9/7/12)
Post by: FastJack on (13:00:13/09-07-12)
Updated with entries from The Land of Promise.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 9/7/12)
Post by: Marzhin on (18:14:46/09-15-12)
Quick question: is there a FastJack redular who is an Ork? I know there was Fatima, but she's a bit too dead unfortunately...
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 9/7/12)
Post by: Crimsondude on (18:27:20/09-15-12)
Bull, Snopes, Clockwork (Hobgoblin), and Goat Foot (Satyr).
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 9/7/12)
Post by: Marzhin on (18:37:46/09-15-12)
Bull, Snopes, Clockwork (Hobgoblin), and Goat Foot (Satyr).

How could I ever forget about good old Bull  ;D
Thanks!
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 9/7/12)
Post by: Crimsondude on (18:49:49/09-15-12)
Don't forget to tip your waitress. :)
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 9/7/12)
Post by: CanRay on (19:34:45/09-15-12)
How could I ever forget about good old Bull  ;D
Thanks!
Because he's like a ninja on that damned scooter!
Don't forget to tip your waitress. :)
I follow the Tao of Mr. Pink:  "Don't tip, be the only one that gets away."  ;D
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 9/7/12)
Post by: Wakshaani on (22:51:31/09-15-12)
Bull, Snopes, Clockwork (Hobgoblin), and Goat Foot (Satyr).

Also Butch, Sounder, and Sunshine.

Lots o'Tuskers. :)
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/8/12)
Post by: TonyK on (13:47:30/10-25-12)
Also, looking for an updated copy of the JackPoint User List pdf that includes /dev/grrl - if there is one.  If there isn't one ... *cracks whip over FastJack's head*  Get to work!!

Built something 'right quick' on this ...
[spoiler deleted]

Hmm, the entry on Fatima probably needs to be updated re her status.
Also, re Am-Mut, to borrow from a certain movie, "What's a Nubian?" :)
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 9/7/12)
Post by: Mara on (11:55:08/10-28-12)
Bull, Snopes, Clockwork (Hobgoblin), and Goat Foot (Satyr).

Also Butch, Sounder, and Sunshine.

Lots o'Tuskers. :)

Wait....Sunshine is an Ork? Seriously? Next thing you will tell me is that Sunshine is male! (I always thought the
reporter was a human female)
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 9/7/12)
Post by: Wakshaani on (12:36:07/10-28-12)
Sunshine's male, yes.

*I'd* always read him as a human female as well, but, nope. He's got both tusks and tackle.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 9/7/12)
Post by: Mirikon on (14:33:27/10-28-12)
Sunshine is male, yes. Some people read it as female because Sunshine sounds like a girly name. However, it is a reference to the old quote about sunshine being the best disinfectant (meaning exposing problems to the public is the best way to eliminate them).
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 11/21/12)
Post by: Belker on (23:49:41/01-25-13)
In the recent novella Neat, James Kincaid (the protagonist and viewpoint character) mentions that he's a Jackpointer after  his meeting with Hard Exit. I may have missed it, but I don't think his street name is mentioned. He's a former Lone Star cop, an initiate shaman, and now a licensed "Paranormal Investigator". His areas of expertise include Seattle (especially Puyallup), Seattle criminal organizations, police procedures and investigations.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 11/21/12)
Post by: The Wyrm Ouroboros on (00:16:23/01-26-13)
You misunderstand the writing.

Hard Exit is speaking:
Quote from: Critias
“You and Bunny might’ve been bad as all hell for each other,” she drawled at me, catty enough that her Texas twang came out whenever she gossiped a little, especially about a fellow high-and-mighty Jackpointer. “But that girl did wonders for your car.”

'Especially about a fellow high-and-mighty Jackpointer' refers from HE's point of view, and refers to Turbo Bunny.  Kincaid is not a Jackpointer.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 11/21/12)
Post by: The Wyrm Ouroboros on (11:34:05/02-25-13)
Hey, 'Jack, did you compile the list(s)?  And presuming so ... would you be willing/able to cull out a Jackpoint Guests List?
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 11/21/12)
Post by: FastJack on (12:16:28/02-25-13)
I will see what I can do. Unfortunately, due to my recent real life move, I haven't picked up a lot of the most recent books. As soon as I can get them, I'll cull out the guests.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 11/21/12)
Post by: The Wyrm Ouroboros on (12:30:05/02-25-13)
Do what you can on what you have, then let everyone else do the rest.  ;)

Oh - and thanks again for your work on this stuff. +10,000.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 11/21/12)
Post by: FastJack on (21:59:45/03-20-13)
Thank goodness for tax returns. Finally got a chance to pick up the latest books and update the lists. And FastJack and Slamm-0! have finally overtaken Cap'n Chaos total post count. FJ's leading with 4 posts over Fred, but with his retiring from JackPoint, I'm relatively sure that will change with the next book.

And, boy, do I empathize with my fictional inspiration. This last year has been a roller-coaster for me. But I think I've finally turned a corner (knocking on lots of wood) and it should be good going forward!
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 11/21/12)
Post by: CanRay on (22:38:00/03-20-13)
Just wait until you get to be his age.  :P
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 11/21/12)
Post by: Rotor on (15:56:25/11-09-13)
Quote
:::::[THE BIG ‘D’] Good evening.
:::::[HECATE] *****IDENT FAILURE—<UNTRANSLATABLE>*****
:::::[THE BIG ‘D’] Please use common English. My interface
includes a real-time language translation and I’m afraid it cannot
handle the old tongues.
:::::[WORDSMYTH] What is the meaning of this??
:::::[THE LAUGHING MAN] Bravo! Outfoxed by the Dark Wyrm! True
deviltry!
:::::[LADY OF THE COURT] I was not told others would be at our
meeting, dragon …
:::::[WORDSMYTH] Nor I.
:::::[JUNGLE CAT] It seems we have all fallen victim to the same
ruse.
:::::[THE LAUGHING MAN] Wondrous irony, that we who prefer to be
at each other’s throats should be tricked into meeting after all.
:::::[THE BIG ‘D’] The subterfuge seemed necessary to accomplish
my ends.
:::::[HECATE] Tell me your reason for this <UNTRANSLATABLE> or
I will leave.
:::::[THE BIG ‘D’] I want all of you to read something the humans call
a compilation of files. This particular collection is about Aztlan.
:::::>JUNGLE CAT SPITS
:::::[WORDSMYTH] Is the Watcher attending to this?
:::::[UMSONDO] I am here.
:::::[THE LAUGHING MAN] And giving away nothing, as usual. In
your honor I shall eschew any further humor or wit. >THE LAUGHING
MAN SNIGGERS
I suspect that most of you know perfectly who they are and will laugh at my ignorance. Even me, I know who "BIG D" and "LAUGHING MAN" (harlequin, right?) are :) but I have no clue about the others (I infred from their dialog that "LADY OF THE COURT" may be from Tir Tairngire and "JUNGLE CAT" is obviously(?) from Amazonia)  This group picks my curiosity and I'd love to know who they are. Thanks in advance. (The book is "Aztlan" if somebody wonders).
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 11/21/12)
Post by: Mirikon on (16:52:31/11-09-13)
Well, for those of you who don't know I make the cast as follows:

The Big 'D' - The Great Dragon Dunkelzhan
Hecate - Shiela Blatavska, head of Atlantean Foundation, also known as Alachia, former Queen of the Blood Elves
Wordsmyth - Ehran the Scribe, another Immortal Elf
The Laughing Man - Harlequin, another Immortal Elf
Lady of the Court - Brane Deigh, Queen of the Seelie Court in Tir Na Nog. If not an Immortal Elf, certainly one on intimate terms with them.
Jungle Cat - Hualpa, the Great Dragon in charge of Amazonia
Umsondo - Yeah, I have no idea here.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 11/21/12)
Post by: The Wyrm Ouroboros on (23:48:45/11-09-13)
JUNGLE CAT and UMSONDO remain ciphers - but IMO it's pretty blatantly obvious that Jungle Cat is not another Great Dragon.  He and Umsondo may be other Immortal sorts - or potentially the latest in a lineage/order of individuals that stretches back as long as the Immortals, as they treat Jungle Cat and Umsondo as equals.

Considering the origin of the immortal elves, I would tend to tag Umsondo as a negro immortal elf - but we know of no black Immortal Elves except Aina Dupree.  Close kin to her, perhaps, though there are several indicators that subtly suggest to the back of my mind, now that I think about them, that Umsondo could actually be her - or her offspring.  If pushed, I'd suggest that Jungle Cat is actually an Immortal shapeshifter - but again, we know of none of them, either.

Everyone else, of course, is spot on and officially acknowledged ...
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 11/21/12)
Post by: Longshot23 on (01:56:04/11-10-13)
Umsondo MIGHT be one of the Heavenherds, from southern Africa.

Brane Deigh as Lady of the Court - I don't know if i buy this, for a couple of nebulous reasons:
1) Ego. As head of the Seelie Court of Tir na nOg, i can't imagine her choosing just 'Lady' - but of course this, for her, could be incredibly subtle and low-key
2) Alachia is supposedly tutoring Brane Deigh, but there was no sign of any deference, one to the other
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 11/21/12)
Post by: Crimsondude on (03:21:31/11-10-13)
As far as I know, whoever they were in fact died with Findley and every discussion has been but speculation. If there has been some official decision/decree, then no one told me. Or worse, someone did tell me and I forgot.

I maintain Sheila Blatavska may be Hecate, but neither is Alachia. But I'm pretty sure I'm pissing up a rope trying to change anyone's, lest everyone's, mind on that.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 11/21/12)
Post by: Mirikon on (09:41:27/11-10-13)
Well, it is clear that everyone in the group is either a dragon, an immortal elf, or someone intimately connected with them.

Sheila Blatavska is confirmed as Hecate and Miss Tick in Loose Alliances. As for whether or not she is Alachia, if she isn't, then she has to be another of the immortal elves, because in Loose Alliances it says she shares a relationship with Ehran and Aithne, and dressed down Schwarzkopf in front of his students telling him that he was teaching them wrong, and he should know better. Alachia is at the top of the list, especially since the other major female IEs are either Aina Dupree, or are working directly with the two Tirs or other awakened nations. Though, of course, there could be ones we don't know about. Another reason I believe Hecate is Alachia is found in the Aztlan file, pg 68. They are talking about Corruption, and Laughing Man says clearly that Hecate ought to know what it looks like. I take this as a pointed jab at how the Blood Elves had to Corrupt themselves to survive the Scourge. Again, same file, pg 172, she says this age is tame compared to the last one.

Umsondo may be one of the Heavenherds, or he might be the Australian IE from some of the early novels.

Regarding Jungle Cat, the poster is clearly based in Amazonia, and is well versed in their internal affairs. I'll run through my reasons as they appear in the book, for easier fact-checking. I'll be including page references, as well.

Pg 11. Not definitive, but Jungle Cat's reaction to the mention of Aztlan is markedly more hostile than the others.
Pg 12. He calls Lady of the Court, Hecate, and Laughing Man juveniles. Again, not definitive, but it suggests Cat is a good deal older than Hecate or Laughing Man, and certainly older than Lady of the Court. On the same page, Cat doesn't get the reference to the 400 pound gorilla joke, claiming to not have heard it, while the immortal elves all know it. Circumstantial, but these two tidbits suggest that Cat has been, shall we say, under a rock the last few centuries or more. Further evidence is just before Big 'D' begins the file, calling Aztlan 'our ancient foe'.
Pg 21. When talking about Pobre, Big 'D' reckons that he is a lesser (not a Great Dragon), but Cat counters 'Perhaps in form, but not in spirit.' Only a fellow dragon (one might say only a fellow great dragon) could get away with that kind of comment, IMO.
Pg 22. 'Do we look stupid?' Jungle Cat clearly marks himself as a core entity in Amazonia.
Pg 60. Jungle Cat apparently knows enough about dragon magic to say he has not seen any direct evidence of it in play
Pg 61. Cat mentions going into Aztlan in his 'guise'. While this could be a simple mask spell, it suggests the great dragon ability to take on a metahuman form.
Pg 86. Again with the 'We', referring to Amazonia. Clearly a major player in the Amazonian government, and we all know how many of those there are.
Pg 102. Jungle Cat speaks of using sentients and dragons to summon blood spirits in surprise, since he thought it 'too soon'.
Pg 109. Lady of the Court asks Cat if he get's grief from the Corporate Court, and Cat says yes, for the same reason she does. If, as we believe, Lady of the Court is Brane Deigh, leader of Tir Nan Og, then the reason the Court gives her grief is because the Tir hasn't signed the Business Recognition Accords. Neither has Amazonia. This implies further that Jungle Cat is the leader of Amazonia.
Pg 114. Both the sidechats pretty much scream that Jungle Cat is in charge in Amazonia.
Pg 172. Has some... unkind words to describe Hecate, saying she has no right to be speaking to them.

All told, there is a very strong circumstantial case that Jungle Cat is a (if not the) key figure in Amazonian affairs. The list of key figures in Amazonian affairs is incredibly short, especially when you limit it to immortals. Hualpa is the obvious pick from this list, though there is always an outside chance it could be Sirrurg, the third dragon from Amazonia's founding, or another, unknown IE (though that is exceedingly unlikely).
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 11/21/12)
Post by: Longshot23 on (10:30:12/11-10-13)
As far as I know, whoever they were in fact died with Findley and every discussion has been but speculation. If there has been some official decision/decree, then no one told me. Or worse, someone did tell me and I forgot.

I maintain Sheila Blatavska may be Hecate, but neither is Alachia. But I'm pretty sure I'm pissing up a rope trying to change anyone's, lest everyone's, mind on that.

Actually, I can accept that Alachia is not Sheila Blatavska. FWIW. Which kind of begs the question . . . what is the canon fate of Tir Tairngire Prince Sosan Naerain?
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 11/21/12)
Post by: Rotor on (16:02:59/11-10-13)
http://web.archive.org/web/19990209144146/users.ntr.net/~kilroy/aztlan.html (http://web.archive.org/web/19990209144146/users.ntr.net/~kilroy/aztlan.html)

Found that.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 11/21/12)
Post by: SnackerBob on (20:57:13/11-10-13)
I always thought that Hecate was obviously Alachia, but Alachia might not be Blavatska.

I guess Lou Prosperi one time said that they were all supposed to be the same person (Hecate, Alachia, and Blavatska) on Dumpshock, but Alachia choosing to run the AF instead of heading an Elf country seems out of place tome.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 11/21/12)
Post by: Bull on (00:30:09/11-11-13)
And at one time, the plan for "Lore master" back in the pre-YotC days was that Loremaster was going to turn out to be Harlequin's father who had gone Walkabout to the Astral Plane near the end of Earthdawn, and came back to fight the Horrors or some such.

Until it's in a book, it's not canon.  The writers and even developers might have very firm ideas of where things are going, but those ideas and plans can and do change, sometimes VERY radically, as storylines progress. 
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 11/21/12)
Post by: Mirikon on (01:22:24/11-11-13)
I always thought that Hecate was obviously Alachia, but Alachia might not be Blavatska.

I guess Lou Prosperi one time said that they were all supposed to be the same person (Hecate, Alachia, and Blavatska) on Dumpshock, but Alachia choosing to run the AF instead of heading an Elf country seems out of place tome.
Actually, I can definitely see Alachia doing somethingn like that, Bob. Remember that in the Sixth World it is corporations, not nations, which hold the major power. Why settle for just an elven land (especially when some of your rivals are setting up camp in a couple of them) when you you can be the head of a multinational nonprofit foundation, able to wield massive money and influence without the headaches of actual rulership? The heads of megacorps (and make no mistake, the Atlantean Foundation is at least a AA in all but name) can wield significantly more power than even the leader of major countries like the UCAS. She might not be Lofwyr with SK, but the Atlantean Foundation presents much less of a target to others than the number one AAA does. As long as people think it is 'just' a glorified new-age science project, then they won't look at it as being a major threat. Which is why the AF's main source of trouble comes from the Draco Foundation, the Black Lodge, the IOND, some dragons, and other awakened interests, compared to all the same people who like to take pot shots at Lofwyr, who also has to deal with the other nine AAAs, all the other corps, terrorists, and more. If, as I believe, Hecate is Alachia, she pulled a slick move by starting the AF. Especially since she still has her power, while Lofwyr's given up the title of Loremaster, the Elders in Tir Tairngir got kicked out, and Tir Nan Og is experiencing all kinds of problems.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 11/21/12)
Post by: SnackerBob on (01:51:40/11-11-13)
And at one time, the plan for "Lore master" back in the pre-YotC days was that Loremaster was going to turn out to be Harlequin's father who had gone Walkabout to the Astral Plane near the end of Earthdawn, and came back to fight the Horrors or some such.

Until it's in a book, it's not canon.  The writers and even developers might have very firm ideas of where things are going, but those ideas and plans can and do change, sometimes VERY radically, as storylines progress.
That ruins my pet theory that YotC was the start of bad Shadowrun metaplot ideas.

Actually, I can definitely see Alachia doing somethingn like that, Bob. Remember that in the Sixth World it is corporations, not nations, which hold the major power. Why settle for just an elven land (especially when some of your rivals are setting up camp in a couple of them) when you you can be the head of a multinational nonprofit foundation, able to wield massive money and influence without the headaches of actual rulership? The heads of megacorps (and make no mistake, the Atlantean Foundation is at least a AA in all but name) can wield significantly more power than even the leader of major countries like the UCAS. She might not be Lofwyr with SK, but the Atlantean Foundation presents much less of a target to others than the number one AAA does. As long as people think it is 'just' a glorified new-age science project, then they won't look at it as being a major threat. Which is why the AF's main source of trouble comes from the Draco Foundation, the Black Lodge, the IOND, some dragons, and other awakened interests, compared to all the same people who like to take pot shots at Lofwyr, who also has to deal with the other nine AAAs, all the other corps, terrorists, and more. If, as I believe, Hecate is Alachia, she pulled a slick move by starting the AF. Especially since she still has her power, while Lofwyr's given up the title of Loremaster, the Elders in Tir Tairngir got kicked out, and Tir Nan Og is experiencing all kinds of problems.
That would make Alachia far smarter than her fellow IEs. Good on her for being smarter than just about anyone else! Just in case that came across as sarcastic, it isn't. I totally get it, and appreciate that she's probably the best IE for adaptability, assuming it's true.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 11/21/12)
Post by: Bull on (03:40:57/11-11-13)
Year of the Comet was actually a lot of fun.  Unfortunately, FASA closing kinda derailed it completely.  Since it and Wake of teh Comet were largely done, they were the first things FanPro put out when they picked up the license, since it was quick and easy.  unfortunately, some of the key people weren't really around anymore and some of the FanPro guys weren't really interested in it.  So it sorta got dumped, the plots got run in wierd directions (When they were used at all), and it ended up being something of a poorly implemented mess. :(

And trust me,. there is a LOT of bad behind the scenes from 1st ed on. :)  Often it's just crazy spitballing concepts that never stick, but sometimes writers really latch onto an idea that they love, but everyone else thinks is a stinker, and, well...  Usually tehy get swept under the rug.  usually.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 11/21/12)
Post by: SnackerBob on (03:59:17/11-11-13)
Okay, I'll be fair. MOST of YotC was pretty OK. I just hate SURGE. And drakes are a bit.. Meh..

I would love to know a lot of the behind-the-scenes of yesteryears Shadowrun, since I had no idea about the ShadowRN list back in the day.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 11/21/12)
Post by: Bull on (04:49:04/11-11-13)
Most of it wasn't even on the RN list.  There's a bunch of stuff I picked up from talking with other freelancers and Mike Mulvihill back in the FASA days.  Much of it I either don't remember or shouldn't really repeat.

And yeah, SURGE got...  out of hand, and unfortunately quickly became the domain of furries and min-maxers.  the original concept was that "partial metahuman DNA" awakened, leading to effectively half-breeds.  Unfortunately that was deemed a little too limiting and not really taht cool, so more stuff got added.  I actually don't mind them when done right (I tend to run them like Jokers from the Wild Cards series), and a number of cyberpunk stroies have done variations of gangs with implants to give them animal traits as a theme (the dog-gang from Johnny Mnemonic, for example), or even gene-splicing gone awry type stuff.  this just did it via magic.  But it needs to be kept rare and mostly in the background (And you'll note how little SURGE has gotten used over the years.)

Drakes aren't a terrible concept, I just don't know that they should have ever been Player Characters (much like AI's, Free Spirits, Vampires, etc).  And they're something of an ED port anyways.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 11/21/12)
Post by: Marzhin on (07:10:04/11-11-13)
I was recently reading an old Shadowrun book, Shadowtech (1st edition I believe) and I was pleasantly surprised to see some shadowtalk by Bull in it (the runner, not the writer).
What's even funnier is that other posters are basically considering him an annoyance, kinda hoping he'll kill himself at some point. And now he's like one of the wise old men of Jackpoint.  ;D
It's also funny to read FastJack's old comments. He was pretty cocky and arrogant at the time.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 11/21/12)
Post by: FastJack on (07:43:09/11-11-13)
It's also funny to read FastJack's old comments. He was pretty cocky and arrogant at the time.
At the time?? I'll have you know... Oh, the other one... ;)
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 11/11/13)
Post by: FastJack on (17:00:30/11-11-13)
By the way, thanks for playing around in this thread, you reminded me that I had a couple updates to the files. ;)

Oh, and there was no "in-universe" date attached to Assassin's Primer, so I'm basing it off a published date 62 years after the actual publish date.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 11/11/13)
Post by: Bull on (20:30:01/11-11-13)
I was recently reading an old Shadowrun book, Shadowtech (1st edition I believe) and I was pleasantly surprised to see some shadowtalk by Bull in it (the runner, not the writer).
What's even funnier is that other posters are basically considering him an annoyance, kinda hoping he'll kill himself at some point. And now he's like one of the wise old men of Jackpoint.  ;D
It's also funny to read FastJack's old comments. He was pretty cocky and arrogant at the time.

That actually predates my involvement in Shadowrun (And actually slightly predates the character, since I made Bull under 2nd ed). But since we started our game in 2050, we assume that is actually Bull. ;)
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 11/11/13)
Post by: CanRay on (03:19:04/11-12-13)
Bull is likely a pretty common username.  Far more common than, say, "Cow".

But, yeah, let's go with that being a young Bull.  ;D  Even he had to start out at the /dev/grrl level at one time.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 11/11/13)
Post by: Sendaz on (06:56:15/11-12-13)
Bull is likely a pretty common username.  Far more common than, say, "Cow".
Though to be fair I did once see a Minotaur Street Sammie with the handle of CyberPsyCowtic. :P
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 11/21/12)
Post by: Mara on (05:05:31/11-13-13)
Most of it wasn't even on the RN list.  There's a bunch of stuff I picked up from talking with other freelancers and Mike Mulvihill back in the FASA days.  Much of it I either don't remember or shouldn't really repeat.

And yeah, SURGE got...  out of hand, and unfortunately quickly became the domain of furries and min-maxers.  the original concept was that "partial metahuman DNA" awakened, leading to effectively half-breeds.  Unfortunately that was deemed a little too limiting and not really taht cool, so more stuff got added.  I actually don't mind them when done right (I tend to run them like Jokers from the Wild Cards series), and a number of cyberpunk stroies have done variations of gangs with implants to give them animal traits as a theme (the dog-gang from Johnny Mnemonic, for example), or even gene-splicing gone awry type stuff.  this just did it via magic.  But it needs to be kept rare and mostly in the background (And you'll note how little SURGE has gotten used over the years.)

Drakes aren't a terrible concept, I just don't know that they should have ever been Player Characters (much like AI's, Free Spirits, Vampires, etc).  And they're something of an ED port anyways.

I have used SURGE to do some interesting things with characters. What I really feel is the bad thing about Surge is, sometimes, you
only want some disadvantages from it, none of the advantages. The other problem is that some of the disadvantages are purely
cosmetic.  A character I threw together with SURGE that I never got to play had a very tight theme on the effects: Underwater vision,
gills, webbed hands and feet, unusual eye colour(Solid black), can't remember what the other disadvantage was, though. Gave the
character a level 3 Dermal Sheath with colour modifications to it to be dark grey over back and sides, white over the stomach..Character
became an under-water operatiosn specialist(complete with gyrojet). Another, I went with Third Eye, and a few other minor things, and
built the character as a really high powered Conjurer. Then, there is the Thorns, Metagenetic Enhancement:Willpower, and a few others
that we have used to give something similar to the effects of the Ritual of Thorns...which is darned fun to have as a Surge package when
going into, say, Tir na nOg, especially when the GM knows about the double histories.

I don't think SURGE is just the realm of Furries and Powergamers. I think, however, a GM needs to be paying attention to what the player
is trying to do with the SURGE.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 11/11/13)
Post by: Mirikon on (10:46:54/11-13-13)
Indeed. To pull a parallel with Hero System, SURGE would be like the powers marked with little Caution signs, warning the GM to take extra care when examining the character before play starts.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 11/21/12)
Post by: Tzeentch on (18:51:41/11-13-13)
And trust me,. there is a LOT of bad behind the scenes from 1st ed on. :)  Often it's just crazy spitballing concepts that never stick, but sometimes writers really latch onto an idea that they love, but everyone else thinks is a stinker, and, well...  Usually tehy get swept under the rug.  usually.
-- Remember those item possessing spirits? Yeah, thought so :)~
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 12/20/13)
Post by: FastJack on (23:04:31/12-20-13)
Indexes updated with Gun H(e)aven 3 and Coyotes.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 12/20/13)
Post by: TheDarkMessiah on (11:13:25/03-06-14)
This may have already been answered (and apologies if it has) but where in the publishing list does the original Parazoology book come?

There may be some other books missing, but if there are I haven't noticed them yet (I have pretty much the complete collection from 4E onwards ;D) So if folks have seen something I haven't read because it's not been on the list thus far, please do tell.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 12/20/13)
Post by: Agonar on (13:13:49/03-17-14)
Are you looking for something like this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Shadowrun_books

Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 12/20/13)
Post by: TheDarkMessiah on (13:17:24/03-17-14)
Are you looking for something like this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Shadowrun_books

Ah, what I meant was in the "In-universe Publishing timeline" (and maybe the others - haven't checked so much) Parazoology is not present, (Parazoology 2 is)

From the information in the books, I think it is supposed to have been posted (In-Timeline) sometime around Attitude?
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 12/20/13)
Post by: FastJack on (15:54:51/03-17-14)
Are you looking for something like this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Shadowrun_books

Ah, what I meant was in the "In-universe Publishing timeline" (and maybe the others - haven't checked so much) Parazoology is not present, (Parazoology 2 is)

From the information in the books, I think it is supposed to have been posted (In-Timeline) sometime around Attitude?
Parazoology wasn't in my original In-Universe Timeline since I base that off of where I track the Shadowland Posters, and there weren't any Shadowland comments in the book. When I get home, I'll update the list to include the book, but I usually base it off the "Current Time" that is on the "Welcome" page of the book. For Parazoology, that's 19 Aug 2072, 0724 hrs.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 12/20/13)
Post by: TheDarkMessiah on (16:36:49/03-17-14)
That's actually awesome for me; i'm currently reading through them chronologically and am on This Old Drone, which luckily is right before Parazoology :D

Thanks for the explanation; I was sure there would be one, but my own OCD meant I had to ask ;)
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 12/20/13)
Post by: FastJack on (21:47:03/04-11-14)
Updated with material from Run & Gun.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 4/10/14)
Post by: Larsine on (07:47:21/04-30-14)
The In-universe Publishing timeline has an error:

Thw Way of the Samurai should be The Way of the Samurai
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 4/10/14)
Post by: Crimsondude on (03:50:31/06-28-14)
Thank you very much, FastJack. Excellent and very useful work, as always.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 4/10/14)
Post by: FastJack on (15:24:28/02-16-15)
 :o Um... 10 months? I know I got busy, but...

Anyway, sorry for the delays folks, here's the updates from Stolen Souls through Sioux Nation!
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 2/16/15)
Post by: Wakshaani on (08:58:16/07-01-15)
Geeze, I thought you'd updated for Chrome FLesh, and I was, like, "You're insanly fast!"

Phew.

Hey, while I'm here, odd question: You wouldn't happen to have the actual *dialogue* from each post archived somewhere? Like, if I asked you for all of CLockwork's lines, for instance, you could go, "Oh sure," and flump 'em out.

Insane question I know, but you're the maestro of this, so if anybody could...
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 2/16/15)
Post by: The Wyrm Ouroboros on (00:43:26/07-02-15)
I doubt it.  I thought about setting something like that up once; the easiest way to do it would be to do an Acrobat macro-search on '> Clockwork', but unfortunately the little chevron character isn't doable AFAIK.  The closest I really came was noting which places had articles written by ... though I think I eventually abandoned even that.  :P
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 2/16/15)
Post by: Fariq on (01:15:12/09-21-15)
I will see what I can do. Unfortunately, due to my recent real life move, I haven't picked up a lot of the most recent books. As soon as I can get them, I'll cull out the guests.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 11/12/15)
Post by: FastJack on (12:58:10/11-12-15)
Oh hey, remember that thing I do? Where I go through the books and check the posts and ...

Yeah, I didn't realize how far back I fell until I saw that this hasn't been updated since February. But, we've got 9 new books on the list (and 7 had Shadow posts!).
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 11/12/15)
Post by: Wakshaani on (18:02:19/11-12-15)
Oh my. That's a lot of books!

I have an odd favor to ask, when you dig back in... could you possibly split the Shadowtalkers into "Pre-5th" and "Post-5th" piles? Most of them are obvious, but the ones who are no longer around after 5th ed I'd like to keep a bit different than the current crop. Help track down proper voices. :)
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 11/12/15)
Post by: FastJack on (20:20:29/11-12-15)
Easiest way is to just break it at Coyotes/Assassin's Primer. Those were the first "in-universe" books published when 5th came out. In-universe time would be around September 2075.

As for labeling it in the documents? I'd rather not, because then we'd want to label 4th, 3rd, 2nd, and 1st as well. And it's tough to keep track sometimes. For instance, The Chromed Accountant was not posting for quite a while, then just came back up in Hard Targets. And where would the posters in Shadowrun 2050 fall?
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 11/12/15)
Post by: Wakshaani on (21:05:35/11-12-15)
Coyote/Assassin would be good, yeah.

Mainly I wanted "People who posted in 5th" and then "Those who haven't" in two parts. That way I could cheat and check the 5th list for people when I draw a blank. :D
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 11/12/15)
Post by: Crimsondude on (23:17:58/11-12-15)
Hrmph.

I used to maintain a spreadsheet of which JackPointers commented in which books.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 11/12/15)
Post by: Lorebane24 on (00:55:33/01-30-16)
Is there a list of which Shadowland BBS posters are still alive in 2076/2077?  I'd really like to surprise the veteran in my new group by sticking one or two of them in our campaign.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 11/12/15)
Post by: The Wyrm Ouroboros on (06:48:09/01-30-16)
Not currently, though you can skim some of the opening bits and bobs in various books - I thought Run Faster had a 'all these guys bought the farm only last month' or something, but it wasn't that.

Unless they're especially significant (e.g. The Big D, Fastjack, Captain Chaos, Hatchetman), you can always drop a name or three, see if they notice.  And in general, you don't have to absolutely keep to canon, eh?  'The rumors of my demise are greatly exaggerated,' and all.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 8/10/11)
Post by: EiraHaexa on (18:31:11/07-26-16)
The only thing worse than all of that, jonathanc, would be something totally evil. Like Flesh-form Insect spirits inhabiting highly trained covert ops soldiers from Knight Errant or Ares.

...

I've said too much.

What I've got planned for my stories is truly vile. Far more vile than flesh form insect spirits.

Poor poor Harlequin. -maniacal cackle-

...I scare myself sometimes.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 11/12/15)
Post by: Ghost Rigger on (13:17:41/02-04-17)
Is there any of these lists that include each poster's "deal"? Like, what there archetype is and any other notable information about them (Red being a vampire, for instance). I think that streetsams are a minority among jackpoint and shadowland posters, but I'm not sure and would like to look at the demographics.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 11/12/15)
Post by: Wakshaani on (14:06:12/02-05-17)
Is there any of these lists that include each poster's "deal"? Like, what there archetype is and any other notable information about them (Red being a vampire, for instance). I think that streetsams are a minority among jackpoint and shadowland posters, but I'm not sure and would like to look at the demographics.

There's one for "backstage", but not for the public, I don't think. Mind you, I'd be interested in seeing what people could piece together! There are always odd bits that someone trots out that wind up quietly being kicked under the couch (like Clockwork having a pet feral AI sprite!) but he majority of stuff stays solid.

And, yes, there's a shortage of gunbunnies and samurai on JackPoint.

And, lord-a-mercy, are there a bajillion magicians.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 11/12/15)
Post by: Beta on (11:25:22/04-28-17)
Are there descriptions of the Jackpointers at all?  Have an opportunity in my game to terrify people by giving Kane a cameo, and I realized that I don’t know a thing about him physically (race, ‘ware, preferred weapons, whether he looks like a total badass or more mild mannered at first … )
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 11/12/15)
Post by: Sphinx on (13:02:21/04-28-17)
Are there descriptions of the Jackpointers at all?  Have an opportunity in my game to terrify people by giving Kane a cameo, and I realized that I don’t know a thing about him physically (race, ‘ware, preferred weapons, whether he looks like a total badass or more mild mannered at first … )

Many JackPointers are described in the Street Legends sourcebook and two digital supplements: Ten JackPointers and Street Legends Supplemental. All of the stats are Fourth Edition, but easy enough to convert. Kane has a full profile, stats, and picture in Street Legends Supplemental (p.13-17).
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 11/12/15)
Post by: Beta on (13:40:51/04-28-17)
Thanks – I’d skipped from 1st edition to 5th, so missed a ‘few’ things along the way.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 11/12/15)
Post by: Sphinx on (18:42:31/05-02-17)
Is there any of these lists that include each poster's "deal"? Like, what there archetype is and any other notable information about them (Red being a vampire, for instance). I think that streetsams are a minority among jackpoint and shadowland posters, but I'm not sure and would like to look at the demographics.

I got bored, so I made a list of all the regular JackPointers from recent books (i.e., ones who commented in at least half of the last ten books or so), and what we know about them. There are some gaps, so please chip in if you know something, and I'll edit the list.


[EDIT: Updated for Complete Trog.]
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 11/12/15)
Post by: DeathStrobe on (12:15:10/05-07-17)
Sphinx, you should add some of that to the wikia (http://shadowrun.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Jackpointer). I've added a few of the jackpointers in there, but to have all of them in an easy to search format would be nice...
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 11/12/15)
Post by: Opti on (00:01:17/05-14-17)
Aufheben is dead...
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 11/12/15)
Post by: DeathStrobe on (00:17:07/05-14-17)
Aufheben is dead...

Or is he?

Bloody Business p39
Quote
While the intention of this adventure is for Aufheben to live, players are creative and resourceful, quite able to pull of things the gamemaster did not expect. This could result in bad things for Aufheben, and gamemasters should not feel like they have to exert the hand of God just to keep Aufheben alive. That is to say, if the players are intent on killing him and they win in a fair  ght, he should die. This could cause issues in the future when they see Aufheben’s name pop up in JackPoint posts, but they can consider the name to have taken up a Spartacus-like aura, and a new soldier has arisen to carry forward the mantle after the old one fell.

Just another Black Mamba.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 11/12/15)
Post by: Opti on (23:05:47/05-14-17)
Nope. He is dead-dead. He died in Drawing Destiny.
Title: Re: Shadowland/Jackpoint Members List (Updated 11/12/15)
Post by: Sphinx on (20:54:38/07-24-17)
I updated the JackPointer list (five posts back) with references to the new bios in Complete Trog.