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Desiani

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Is A used Suprathyroid worth it?
« on: (21:02:46/02-06-17) »
I'm thinking about taking the Prototype Transhuman (dryad) quality and am wondering if the used super thyroid is worth using .87 essence for the +1 Str/Bod/Agi/Rea.

Is this a Trap Bio ware and therefore be better off taking muscle toner and .6 other bioware?

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Re: Is A used Suprathyroid worth it?
« Reply #1 on: (21:53:50/02-06-17) »
I'm fairly certain prototype transhuman doesn't allow the used quality of bioware. 

from an optimization point of view I've never had a need for the suprathyroid myself there are more efficient ways of pumping the important physical stats for the most part.  I'd rather +3 or +4 to the important stats like agility rather then a +1 to all physical. 

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Re: Is A used Suprathyroid worth it?
« Reply #2 on: (22:22:29/02-06-17) »
I'm not sure it's possible at char creation, but how would you get +3 or 4 ? The restricted gear quality?

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Re: Is A used Suprathyroid worth it?
« Reply #3 on: (22:25:44/02-06-17) »
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I'm fairly certain prototype transhuman doesn't allow the used quality of bioware.
If it's not considered viable, then switch from Used Grade to Omega Grade, with the drawback of "x1.25 Essence Cost".

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Re: Is A used Suprathyroid worth it?
« Reply #4 on: (22:39:01/02-06-17) »
This has me thinking... Is prototype Transhuman available to any other meta type? The quality doesn't specify that it's human specific, only must be at char creation

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Re: Is A used Suprathyroid worth it?
« Reply #5 on: (22:50:57/02-06-17) »
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I'm not sure it's possible at char creation, but how would you get +3 or 4 ? The restricted gear quality?

more or less although I prefer cyber limbs for stat boosting.  Bioware seems to be better at boosting mental stuff with things like cerebral boosters and the like since there isn't anything in the cyber side that does anything comparable. 

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This has me thinking... Is prototype Transhuman available to any other meta type? The quality doesn't specify that it's human specific, only must be at char creation

While the cap on positive qualities would prevent it I think you could reasonably even have a vampire with the quality prototype transhuman.  Pixies Sasquatches and centaurs certainly work.  evil corporations doing evil things to babies and all that.  I suppose it wouldn't make sense to have an AI with the quality

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Re: Is A used Suprathyroid worth it?
« Reply #6 on: (01:21:45/02-07-17) »
Everyone in Shadowrun who isn't "metasapient" is human; that's why it's "metahumanity".  So Prototype Transhuman isn't referring just to the normal human metatype.  It is confusing, I admit.  But every metatype is still homo sapiens.
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Re: Is A used Suprathyroid worth it?
« Reply #7 on: (17:48:20/02-10-17) »
Heh. That comment just made me go and spend a couple hours putting together a Naga Face/Shaman with Prototype Transhuman.
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Re: Is A used Suprathyroid worth it?
« Reply #8 on: (18:00:36/02-10-17) »
Heh. That comment just made me go and spend a couple hours putting together a Naga Face/Shaman with Prototype Transhuman.

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Re: Is A used Suprathyroid worth it?
« Reply #9 on: (18:21:08/02-10-17) »
I've done worse things. Vampire combat medic comes to mind.

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Re: Is A used Suprathyroid worth it?
« Reply #10 on: (22:09:47/03-08-17) »
I'm not sure it's possible at char creation, but how would you get +3 or 4 ? The restricted gear quality?

Can't get Suprathyroid at all during char-gen without restricted gear quality- it's 20R availability. Also it doesn't have upgradable ratings. I think he meant it's better in general to use your resources to boost fewer attributes higher, than several attributes by only one level. You couldn't take Suprathyroid 4 times to get a +4 in each, it's a one and done
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Re: Is A used Suprathyroid worth it?
« Reply #11 on: (13:37:33/03-10-17) »
Everyone in Shadowrun who isn't "metasapient" is human; that's why it's "metahumanity".  So Prototype Transhuman isn't referring just to the normal human metatype.  It is confusing, I admit.  But every metatype is still homo sapiens.
Tell that to my slaughter humans spell that I cast on my nonhuman metatype runner team when we surrounded.

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Re: Is A used Suprathyroid worth it?
« Reply #12 on: (07:36:01/03-11-17) »
Everyone in Shadowrun who isn't "metasapient" is human; that's why it's "metahumanity".  So Prototype Transhuman isn't referring just to the normal human metatype.  It is confusing, I admit.  But every metatype is still homo sapiens.
Tell that to my slaughter humans spell that I cast on my nonhuman metatype runner team when we surrounded.

Saying "Slaughter Humans" is easier and quicker than saying "Slaughter Homo sapiens sapiens"
We know that the various metatypes are defined as follows:

Dwarf: Homo sapiens pumilionis
Elf: Homo sapiens nobilis
Human: Homo sapiens sapiens
Ork: Homo sapiens robustus
Troll: Homo sapiens ingentis

These subtypes were introduced all the way back in 1st edition, and are still in use today (see Run Faster).
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Re: Is A used Suprathyroid worth it?
« Reply #13 on: (02:51:06/03-14-17) »
also used/omega grade isnt just pay the used status theres a characteristic that goes along with it

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Re: Is A used Suprathyroid worth it?
« Reply #14 on: (13:10:05/03-14-17) »
also used/omega grade isnt just pay the used status theres a characteristic that goes along with it

I'm no where near a book at the moment. Would you be able to give me the page that info n is on?