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Lofwyr — Being a Dick?

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« Reply #30 on: <07-11-16/1310:14> »
Wait, they came out with Loffyplushies??  I thought they only had Dunkieplushies!!

Case of Greed over Pride.

He hates them, but they DO sell. And that if Dunkie could put up with them.... (and the fact that Dunkie was the 'first' didn't sit well either)

Oh, Ol' Goldy is...irritated, to put it nicely when he finds out my character has a Loffyplushie. Lol She loves that blasted thing.
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« Reply #31 on: <07-17-16/0320:02> »
I like making villians like this. Sympathetic villians are cliche.

See, I can imagine Lofwyr saying something along the lines of, "I like being this sort of villain. Sympathetic villains are passé."
And then roasting some poor schlub in front of his (former) friends and co-workers.

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« Reply #32 on: <07-17-16/0329:44> »
I like making villians like this. Sympathetic villians are cliche.

See, I can imagine Lofwyr saying something along the lines of, "I like being this sort of villain. Sympathetic villains are passé."
And then roasting some poor schlub in front of his (former) friends and co-workers.


And, I can totally see him going:

"Quaterly profits are down 0.02%. Please smear these ketchup and mustard packages on yourself...."
Where am I going? And why am I in a hand basket ???

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« Reply #33 on: <07-17-16/0524:47> »
I like making villians like this. Sympathetic villians are cliche.

See, I can imagine Lofwyr saying something along the lines of, "I like being this sort of villain. Sympathetic villains are passé."
And then roasting some poor schlub in front of his (former) friends and co-workers.

And, I can totally see him going:

"Quaterly profits are down 0.02%. Please smear these ketchup and mustard packages on yourself...."
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« Reply #34 on: <07-17-16/1652:46> »
Every time I've run Lofwyr as GM, I treat him a bit like Victor Von Doom.
Arrogant, with an internally runaway ego but just intelligence and disciplined enough to not go completely mad with power.
He's the ruler the world needs, because he is a dragon, the best among all races, and the best among dragons.

The only "personal canon" change I make, is that he treats his most capable and devoted like favored pets (and everyone else as completely expendable pending failure). To him, it's not enough to just be feared and loved, they must know emphatically, philosophically, in their very soul he is sovereign.

He doesn't discern between Shadowrunners and wage slaves, because everyone who isn't his enemy is his tool in waiting...and even a few of his enemies are his unwitting tools and accomplices.
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« Reply #35 on: <08-01-16/0453:22> »
One run, he hires runners to do an extraction from the Renraku arcology in Seattle, and one of the 'runners' was left behind. Then, when the runners get the extractees out to the Tir border, they kill all but one of them (who only escaped thanks to the Tir border guards showing up to deal with the runners). Then it turns out that the whole run was a plant job, to put a timed life doppleganger into the arcology to get some data.

That was Haeslich from Never deal with a dragon, not Lofwyr.

Most examples of Lofwyr I remember are helping the protagonist as a dragon-ex-machina - that dragon has his claws in everything -, see Sam Verner,Skater or Talon in the novels, the protagonits of the Shadowrun Returns game, etc etc.
Even his story in Threats is written more like 'don't try to frag him over AND brag about it or you'll regret it" (he'll even use your death to his advantage), not "he's the devil of shadowrun! run!"

He's very far from the pact-twisting soul-stealing evil devil he's made out to be.

« Last Edit: <08-01-16/0508:30> by herceg »

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« Reply #36 on: <08-22-16/0120:08> »
Lofwyr see everyone and everything as a resources to be used, if an employee fail him he will most likely just have him put down the management line to a place where he won't fail another time. Resources are limited as long as it can be used he will use it. But if he find no use for you at all... Then you are in trouble

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« Reply #37 on: <09-30-16/0759:52> »
His purpose is not to be a dick. It is to be scary and make players justifiably paranoid.
And the reason he is scary is not because he is an immortal that can swallow you in a single gulp and take a tactical nuke to the face without blinking. The immortal dragon stuff is just there to keep players from trying to casually assassinate him (and because it's friging cool). The reason he is scary is because of his mental faculties that allow him to micromanage hundreds if not thousands of plots at any given time. He is smart, he is ruthless, and he is always five steps ahead of you. No matter what you do, he has a plan that lets him use your actions to his advantage. Because he is just that smart.

In he novels it's not that people set out to screw him over.
They typically cross him by accident, and then try to make it up to him to avoid being eaten, during which they usually screw themselves over in the process before finally ending up being doublecrossed.

So of course it is the obligation of the GM to not let the players pull one off on that kind of antagonist unless there is an epic amount of legwork behind it, and then it should be the kind of thing they talk about for years afterwards. And even then there should always be some tiny doubt in the back of their minds that maybe, just maybe, Lofwyr is lying on a beach somewhere sipping Pina Coladas and contemplating the recent growth of his portfolio, because everything went exactly as planned...