Author Topic: Attribute Maximum: Beyond 11  (Read 149 times)

Mollari

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Attribute Maximum: Beyond 11
« on: (02:44:44/02-12-18) »
Hi guys.

So like so many things in SR, I noticed something about what I thought was simple but now raises questions.

On the "Karma Advancement Table for Attributes" CRB p107 it ranks attributes up to 11, noting that those are in parentheses and that:

"Numbers in parentheses () are only availiable to characters with the correct quality."

Now with only the CRB there is only one way to increase your attribute top limit and that's with Exceptional Attribute. However the subsequent books open up more possibilities to increase your attribute limit.

So here's my question. Can a Troll use Genetic Optimisation on their Body/Strength when at 10 attribute?
It technically isn't a quality, so...?

Augmented maximum is something different, however genetic modification isn't an augment but instead changes the limit.

Could they take both?

On another seperate note note, I've always been told that magic is a self sustaining increase. Initiation raises your natural limit. Would this too apply to magic as it is an attribute like any other (granted reaching that high in magic is unlikely, but academically).
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Mollari

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Re: Attribute Maximum: Beyond 11
« Reply #1 on: (03:03:34/02-12-18) »
Actually nm guys

Looking at the Metasapient and Shapeshipter Attribute Table and clearly those forms can break the 10 max and 11 with quality, so guess it's kinda a forgotten thing.

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Re: Attribute Maximum: Beyond 11
« Reply #2 on: (09:51:33/02-12-18) »
not only that but the Genetic Optimization your talking about specifically states that it is compatible with the Exceptional Attribute Quality.

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Re: Attribute Maximum: Beyond 11
« Reply #3 on: (21:46:59/02-13-18) »
And AIs can have two attributes with no upper limit. so yeah that particular bit is obsolete. 

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Re: Attribute Maximum: Beyond 11
« Reply #4 on: (21:54:29/02-13-18) »
keep in mind, you are talking about a huge karma investment to actually get to that upper maximum...

Not saying you can't get there, but chances are there is something else that could use that karma along the way.
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Mollari

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Re: Attribute Maximum: Beyond 11
« Reply #5 on: (22:26:40/02-13-18) »
I was asking with the metas that have stat max at 10 or higher in mind.

But yeah. Was just one of those small details that suddenly stopped me lol