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Title: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: JM_Hardy on (21:26:34/09-09-10)
Mod Edit: Upcoming Releases can also be found here! (http://shadowrun.tumblr.com/upcoming)

This is the list of upcoming Shadowrun releases. As release dates get closer, I'll provide more information about what the products are. They are listed in approximate planned order of release, but that is always subject to change. And note that I'm not allowed to attach even approximate estimated release dates, or management skins me alive and then displays my flayed corpse in BodyWorks.

Sixth World Almanac--Available electronically now, print coming soon! Complete Sixth World timeline! Write-ups of almost 40 countries! And a full world, full-color map! Plus, we threw in some of the prettiest art Shadowrun has ever seen.

Midnight: Dawn of the Artifacts 3--Available electronically now, print coming soon! The Dawn of the Artifacts series continues, and the globetrotting isn't slowing down! You need to track down an artifact that already has been stolen once and try to keep it secure.

Runner's Toolkit--A box set full of stuff to make running and playing Shadowrun easier, including a GM screen; "cheat sheets" reviewing common game processes (e.g, combat, spellcasting); an updated version of the introductory adventure "On the Run"; PACKS (Pre-Generated Auxiliary Character Kit creation system), which makes generating a wide variety of NPCs and PCs quick and easy; a booklet of contacts, adventure seeds, and sprawl sites; Anatomy of a Shadowrun, a two-column booklet where one column presents a run in fictional form, and the other column describes all the tests and game rules employed in that run; four double-sided, color sprawl site maps; and a sticker!

War!--Tensions have been growing between Aztlan and Amazonia for a while. It's time they erupt! This book will provide info on the war, on Bogota, and on the latest military gear being used in the fighting. Rules for mercenary campaigns should be in there too!

Attitude--Did you like Shadowbeat? Then hopefully you'll like Attitude.

Spells & Chrome--Trade paperback version of the short story anthology that previously was released electronically.

New Dawn: Dawn of the Artifacts 4

A Fistful of Credsticks (Horizon adventure 1)

Spy Games

Anarchy Subsidized (Horizon adventure 2)

Subterfuge (Horizon adventure 3)

eBook line:
Missions 03-10
Missions 03-11
This Old Drone--Are there older drones from previous editions that didn't make it into SR4 yet? Do you miss them? Perhaps they'll be in here! Learn how to get more use out of your beloved old drones.
Missions 03-12
MilSpecTech--We couldn't possibly fit all the cool military gear that's available into War! So more of it is in here!
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: FastJack on (21:34:37/09-09-10)
Stickers! ;D
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: kinderkrieg on (00:07:46/09-10-10)
this makes me very happy...ah sweet, sweet anticipation
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Mäx on (04:01:16/09-10-10)
War!--Tensions have been growing between Aztlan and Amazonia for a while. It's time they erupt! This book will provide info on the war, on Bogota, and on the latest military gear being used in the fighting. Rules for mercenary campaigns should be in there too!

Attitude--Did you like Shadowbeat? Then hopefully you'll like Attitude.

This Old Drone--Are there older drones from previous editions that didn't make it into SR4 yet? Do you miss them? Perhaps they'll be in here! Learn how to get more use out of your beloved old drones.

MilSpecTech--We couldn't possibly fit all the cool military gear that's available into War! So more of it is in here!
These sounds so damm cool, i can't wait for these to come out.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Casazil on (06:20:42/09-10-10)
Attitude--Did you like Shadowbeat? Then hopefully you'll like Attitude.

FINALLY!! :o
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: blackheart on (09:56:26/09-10-10)
Attitude? Yes, please!

And Spy Games? Sixth World Espionage? Please, spoil some more!
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: PeterSmith on (11:08:04/09-10-10)
Be careful there Jason, somebody may think you're lying. ;)

In all seriousness I saw the pallets of 6WA the other week. It made even my BattleTech-encrusted heart glow.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Prime Mover on (11:16:15/09-10-10)
I've been so desperate for SR material I dipped into my SR fund to buy other games...oh the insanity.
Eagerly awaiting DoTA3 and 6thWA.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: FastJack on (11:36:35/09-10-10)
Yeah, I was holding off buying the Quints over on Amazon because Street Magic was out of stock. But I saw it was in stock this week and couldn't stop myself...
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Jadehellbringer on (12:18:09/09-10-10)
Be careful there Jason, somebody may think you're lying. ;)

In all seriousness I saw the pallets of 6WA the other week. It made even my BattleTech-encrusted heart glow.

It's incredible- I picked one up at Gencon, and I was just floored by it. In particular, since I'm re-learning the universe and trying to get new players involved, this thing is made of gold for me.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Casazil on (18:30:02/09-10-10)
Just a thought shouldn't this like go in the Official Announcements thread???
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: JM_Hardy on (19:34:45/09-10-10)
Just a thought shouldn't this like go in the Official Announcements thread???

I debated that. Since it's about upcoming products, not released ones, it's okay here. When there are official things to say, they'll go in the official board.

Jason H.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: bobo69 on (00:02:35/09-11-10)
Spy games?

yeah great stuff. Info on the espionage agencies around the world.

Also lookign forward to War and Artifacts new dawn.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: kinderkrieg on (02:08:12/09-11-10)
so i just read this again...milspec tech you say? and more drones? oh lordy...
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Crimsondude on (13:53:52/09-11-10)
Spy Games

Yes.

Oh, yes.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: DarkLloyd on (03:42:48/09-13-10)
Man Jason, if you could expedite "This Old Drone" at all I'll promise you a case of that caffinated orange juice I brought to DragonCon, this next Gencon! Just ask the Brent, Loren and Ray how it was. ;)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: JM_Hardy on (16:12:37/09-13-10)
Man Jason, if you could expedite "This Old Drone" at all I'll promise you a case of that caffinated orange juice I brought to DragonCon, this next Gencon! Just ask the Brent, Loren and Ray how it was. ;)

It's aaaaaalmost done! I just looked at the cover art!

Jason H.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: FastJack on (16:51:39/09-13-10)
Yeah, I was holding off buying the Quints over on Amazon because Street Magic was out of stock. But I saw it was in stock this week and couldn't stop myself...
Did I mention these came in the mail today?

Well, they DID! :P
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: GrimWulf on (10:15:35/09-14-10)
I'm assuming that the errors in 6WA that have been pointed out will be addressed before hardcopy print, how does someone who purchased the electronic version get an updated copy?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: FastJack on (10:22:11/09-14-10)
Usually, if you purchase the PDF through BattleCorps/DriveThruRPG, they will send you a notice that it's been updated and give you an updated download link.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: JM_Hardy on (16:24:14/09-14-10)
Usually, if you purchase the PDF through BattleCorps/DriveThruRPG, they will send you a notice that it's been updated and give you an updated download link.

This.

Jason H.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: The_Gun_Nut on (16:32:52/09-14-10)
<SNIP>
War!--Tensions have been growing between Aztlan and Amazonia for a while. It's time they erupt! This book will provide info on the war, on Bogota, and on the latest military gear being used in the fighting. Rules for mercenary campaigns should be in there too!

<SNIP>

eBook line:
Missions 03-10
Missions 03-11
This Old Drone--Are there older drones from previous editions that didn't make it into SR4 yet? Do you miss them? Perhaps they'll be in here! Learn how to get more use out of your beloved old drones.
Missions 03-12
MilSpecTech--We couldn't possibly fit all the cool military gear that's available into War! So more of it is in here!

<gibbers>

MOAR GUNS??  IT MUST BE MINE!!
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: FastJack on (16:49:52/09-14-10)
<SNIP>
War!--Tensions have been growing between Aztlan and Amazonia for a while. It's time they erupt! This book will provide info on the war, on Bogota, and on the latest military gear being used in the fighting. Rules for mercenary campaigns should be in there too!

<SNIP>

eBook line:
Missions 03-10
Missions 03-11
This Old Drone--Are there older drones from previous editions that didn't make it into SR4 yet? Do you miss them? Perhaps they'll be in here! Learn how to get more use out of your beloved old drones.
Missions 03-12
MilSpecTech--We couldn't possibly fit all the cool military gear that's available into War! So more of it is in here!

<gibbers>

MOAR GUNS??  IT MUST BE MINE!!
DAMMIT!! Will whoever keeps turning up the output of the soykafmaker, please stop! It's set there for a reason! :P
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Prime Mover on (09:53:57/09-16-10)
Having withdrawal symptoms hope we see some release dates for print soon.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Doc Chaos on (10:41:44/09-16-10)
DAMMIT!! Will whoever keeps turning up the output of the soykafmaker, please stop! It's set there for a reason! :P

Yet its so much fun! You should have seen the look on the people's faces around us when he started twichting! ;D
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: LFG on (10:52:32/09-16-10)
Having withdrawal symptoms hope we see some release dates for print soon.

Must have almanac...
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Prime Mover on (16:12:50/09-16-10)

We Have a release date!!!


The following product has a Street Date of SEPTEMBER 29th, 2010:


SIXTH WORLD ALMANAC ($44.99)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Bull on (20:14:45/09-16-10)
Psst.  Check the Official Announcements board, above this one.  ;)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Prime Mover on (21:14:47/09-16-10)
Yea I beat him....thought I'd leave the official announcement for an official.  ;D
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Andinel on (21:26:46/09-16-10)
Just noticing, 6WA is number CAT26205. Vice is CAT26203. Seattle 2072 is 26240. What happened to 26204?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: GrimWulf on (23:02:58/09-16-10)
Not to be pushy or anything, but with the physical release of 6WA, are the print errors in the PDF still there in the printed copy?
If they've been fixed, where's the updated PDF?
If they haven't been fixed, how much more time did you need to fix the issues when they were brought forward the same day the pdf came out?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Critias on (02:16:51/09-17-10)
Just noticing, 6WA is number CAT26205. Vice is CAT26203. Seattle 2072 is 26240. What happened to 26204?
Maybe 26204 asked too many questions about where other CAT numbers went!   :o

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Not to be pushy or anything, but with the physical release of 6WA, are the print errors in the PDF still there in the printed copy?
If they've been fixed, where's the updated PDF?
If they haven't been fixed, how much more time did you need to fix the issues when they were brought forward the same day the pdf came out?
I can, at least partially, answer your question -- but only by shamelessly repeating what I saw as an official answer over on Facebook:  "This is the same print run as the copies at GenCon. Errata will be released."
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Krypter on (15:04:15/09-18-10)
Spy Games sounds good. That's an aspect of SR that's never been adequately explored, in any edition. Will ISA, SO15 and Section 9 be in there?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Prime Mover on (10:05:32/09-19-10)
I always thought runners feel into two classes.
a. The shoot first, shoot second then toss in the grenades in.
b. Plan, plan, plan and attempt to get in and out unnoticed.
The latter always struck me as more of a spy like game so a book for that second crowd certainly seems like a good choice.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Usda Beph on (12:03:27/09-19-10)
 ;D Attitude--Did you like Shadowbeat? Then hopefully you'll like Attitude.

" You have an Attitude!"

Why Yes... And Arsenal to go along with it! ;D
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Crimsondude on (12:34:48/09-22-10)
Spy Games sounds good. That's an aspect of SR that's never been adequately explored, in any edition. Will ISA, SO15 and Section 9 be in there?
I hope not.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Krypter on (20:06:23/09-23-10)
Why's that?  ???
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: The_Gun_Nut on (09:46:42/09-24-10)
Too much Big Brother/Illuminati hand waving, I'm assuming.  It's too easy to say the "sprawling tendrils of the shadowy intelligence agency" finds your character, regardless of the fact that he erased his SIN, stripped naked, blasted every RFID tag within 100 miles of himself with the EMP from a nuke set off to kill everyone the character knows and to fake his death, swims out to the middle of the Pacific on a strip of driftwood and then freedives to the bottom of the ocean where the Agency is waiting to pick him up and return him for questioning.

It becomes hackneyed after a certain point.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Krypter on (22:04:42/09-24-10)
Err, that's assuming quite a lot beforehand. Real world intelligence agencies are nowhere near to Big Brother. They're extremely fallible and in many cases incompetent. Why would someone object to an unreleased book because they think intel agents are omnipotent? That's silly.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Katerchen on (09:42:28/09-25-10)
Spy Games

Great!

But I hope I don't have to erase my ex-spy character after reading all the infos (and new rules and gear?) in this one...  ;D
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: The_Gun_Nut on (10:16:36/09-25-10)
Err, that's assuming quite a lot beforehand. Real world intelligence agencies are nowhere near to Big Brother. They're extremely fallible and in many cases incompetent. Why would someone object to an unreleased book because they think intel agents are omnipotent? That's silly.
Mostly because that's how the media has portrayed intelligence agencies.  Actually one of two extremes:  Either they are boneheaded incompetents, or they are the All Seeing Eye of God.  Real world intelligence does it's job fairly well.  It's just that there is an ocean of information to swim through, and they only have snorkeling gear.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Doc Chaos on (10:25:45/09-25-10)
Which is made out of paper and bamboo sticks.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Mäx on (19:13:39/09-25-10)
Err, that's assuming quite a lot beforehand. Real world intelligence agencies are nowhere near to Big Brother. They're extremely fallible and in many cases incompetent. Why would someone object to an unreleased book because they think intel agents are omnipotent? That's silly.
Mostly because that's how the media has portrayed intelligence agencies.
But thats not how they're portraed in shadowrun, portrayals of inteligense agensies has been pretty realistic in past books and i don't see any reason to except anythink else from this book.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Krypter on (22:41:05/09-25-10)
I just loved the FBI agents in Native American Nations 1. Della Cooper and Grisham...hehe.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Wolfboy on (22:53:20/09-25-10)
i just want a physical release date for runners toolkit, i've had the thing on back order for forever and have now paid for it twice, (got my money back in Seatle 2072 and Vice the first time) and i'm still waiting for it to physically release.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Doc Chaos on (03:08:35/09-26-10)
You and a few thousand others :/
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: XLII on (08:02:43/09-30-10)
Mostly because that's how the media has portrayed intelligence agencies.  Actually one of two extremes:  Either they are boneheaded incompetents, or they are the All Seeing Eye of God.  Real world intelligence does it's job fairly well.  It's just that there is an ocean of information to swim through, and they only have snorkeling gear.


Try the BBC TV series Spooks. Of course, in some things they're still quite powerful, but it definately is one that shows their weaknesses and failures almost more than their successesl (and not in a 'CTU-infiltrant of the week' way ;)). Although in the end, of course, in most things they prevail, but almost always at a cost.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Crimsondude on (19:43:00/10-01-10)
Why's that?  ???

I don't want someone else's IP being shoehorned into Shadowrun. It's one of the reasons why I hate Loose Alliances and wish I never bought it, read it, or knew it existed.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Nath on (08:32:53/10-02-10)
"Creativity is when you no longer remember your source of inspiration."
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: MJBurrage on (14:35:52/10-02-10)
I don't want someone else's IP being shoehorned into Shadowrun. It's one of the reasons why I hate Loose Alliances and wish I never bought it, read it, or knew it existed.
What was the IP usage in Loose Alliances that bugged you?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Krypter on (15:11:53/10-02-10)
Why's that?  ???

I don't want someone else's IP being shoehorned into Shadowrun. It's one of the reasons why I hate Loose Alliances and wish I never bought it, read it, or knew it existed.

Fair enough for Section 9 since it's from Ghost in the Shell, but ISA and SO15 are real-life organizations, not someone else's IP.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SO15
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_Support_Activity

ISA ("Grey Fox") are the sigint guys who pinpointed Saddam Hussein. I'd like to see more of that kind of group in Shadowrun.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: BlackMyron on (01:58:15/10-04-10)
What about UNATCO?  ;)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: PeterSmith on (11:24:01/10-04-10)
What about UNATCO?  ;)

The United Nations Attack Company? That must be those mythical "UN fighters" that I see scattered across the anime I watch.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Caine Hazen on (12:42:36/10-04-10)
Play moar Deus Ex... 

Oh man, I said it out loud, someone is gonna reistall it!
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Mäx on (02:39:09/10-05-10)
Play moar Deus Ex... 

Oh man, I said it out loud, someone is gonna reistall it!
You meant to say that you have uninstalled it ;)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: BlackMyron on (20:50:03/10-06-10)
 Oh, and the Monastery of the Rose... certainly non-anime!
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Crimsondude on (19:03:44/10-08-10)
Let me just say that I don't buy the hype on ISA. That said, my comment was mostly about Section 9.

As for Loose Alliances, I've said more than I should. I don't like it and nothing will change my mind on that.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Nath on (10:40:48/10-09-10)
The United Nations Attack Company? That must be those mythical "UN fighters" that I see scattered across the anime I watch.
Compare to the mythical "Interpol field agents" that you scattered across movies. Sixth World Almanac even features an Interpol official press release acknowledging Interpol agents bombed a cartel's facilities.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: nakano on (09:32:20/10-10-10)
Gotta say that I am really happy about Attitude being on the sched.  I am just starting a new game and one of my players has decided to play a rocker concept.  An updated version of Shadowbeat is just what the doctor ordered.

The rest of the material looks cool too, but damn Shadowbeat was one of my favorite "fluff" reads in the game.  Stupid moving 3 times in the last couple of years and still not having fully unpacked the library.   :-\
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Crimsondude on (18:49:05/10-10-10)
All in all, I think Spy Games is long overdue and will be pretty cool to see in print.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Angelone on (15:46:22/10-15-10)
Shadowbeat was chock full of win and everything right and good with the universe. I'm really looking forward to War! and the other Miltech book. Spy Games is another I'm eager to get my hands on.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: hazmat the monstar on (14:46:18/10-18-10)
Ive been reading my old fasa novels from the 50s & 60s. What's up with the new sr4 novels? I love SR novels!
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: FastJack on (15:18:45/10-18-10)
I know that they were talking about some novels coming out for 4th Edition, but I don't recall any dates given.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Angelone on (18:37:15/10-18-10)
I could have sworn there was a new fiction compilation, but I have checked these boards and drivethrurpg and haven't found it... Have I finally lost it? :-\
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: FastJack on (18:58:02/10-18-10)
I remember it too...

Ah, yes. Spells & Chrome (http://www.battlecorps.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=2505), the ePub compilation at BattleCorps.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: JM_Hardy on (21:44:14/10-18-10)
We had hard copies of Spells & Chrome at GenCon, and hope to have more in many locations soon. Plans for fiction to follow that are moving ahead!

Jason H.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: voydangel on (01:37:24/10-31-10)
I can't wait for some of the upcoming releases, especially the runners toolkit. I especially await the "anatomy of a run" part of it.
But, couldn't help but notice that all but one of the "upcoming releases" listed on the main website are already out on shelves. What gives?  :P
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: hazmat the monstar on (15:49:57/11-02-10)
How come "On the run" never had a follow up?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: The_Gun_Nut on (19:29:16/11-02-10)
That's a really good question.  I really enjoyed "On the Run" and so did my players.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: hazmat the monstar on (22:01:14/11-02-10)
Yeah. I'm gonna be running it again for a new group, and that would be cool to see it continue, but it's been years. I'm trying to find the old mission from 2nd edition that jetblack was in.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Qemuel on (01:46:38/11-03-10)
One Stage Before (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1555601928/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=&seller=) was the module.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: hazmat the monstar on (15:34:34/11-04-10)
Thank you quemuel.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Qemuel on (15:09:50/11-05-10)
You are quite welcome!  ;)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Mordoyh on (16:25:30/11-17-10)
Just wondering about an upcoming Sourcebook.  In a number of answers to questions in the magic section of the FAQ on Catalyst's site, the phrase "this will be answered more fully in an upcoming sourcebook.". Has there been an announcement on what this sourcebook will be and when it's likely to be available?  I love new stuff.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: FastJack on (11:19:49/11-21-10)
Hey guys, any chance that something similar to BT's Dossiers (http://www.classicbattletech.com/index.php?action=products&mode=full&id=324) will be hitting the 'net for us?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: The_Gun_Nut on (13:05:25/11-21-10)
Heh, the dossier of Ryan Mercury or Damien Knight must be quite a read.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Prime Mover on (14:10:24/11-21-10)
Just wondering about an upcoming Sourcebook.  In a number of answers to questions in the magic section of the FAQ on Catalyst's site, the phrase "this will be answered more fully in an upcoming sourcebook.". Has there been an announcement on what this sourcebook will be and when it's likely to be available?  I love new stuff.

Thanks!

There were some recent snippets posted on DH http://forums.dumpshock.com/index.php?showtopic=33195&hl= (http://forums.dumpshock.com/index.php?showtopic=33195&hl=) concerning Harlequins Gambit,Arcanoarcheology and High Magic.  The authors no longer being with catalyst.  The last official mention was that that one or more of these books may still be seen but in a different way. 
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Raventrickster on (21:36:02/11-21-10)
Can we get some sort of timeline on Runners Toolkit... even a year would be good.

(This year, next year, or after the Dragons show up in 2012?)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: FastJack on (22:25:44/11-21-10)
As has been said before, the dates will be released when they have them. They will not give an estimate since many players will take that "about a year" and hear "it will be released on November 21, 2010".
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: JM_Hardy on (14:44:15/11-22-10)
Hey guys, any chance that something similar to BT's Dossiers (http://www.classicbattletech.com/index.php?action=products&mode=full&id=324) will be hitting the 'net for us?

Maybe . . .

Vague enough for you?

Jason H.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: FastJack on (14:58:18/11-22-10)
Hey guys, any chance that something similar to BT's Dossiers (http://www.classicbattletech.com/index.php?action=products&mode=full&id=324) will be hitting the 'net for us?

Maybe . . .

Vague enough for you?

Jason H.
That'll do, Jason. That'll do. ;)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Mordoyh on (19:23:00/11-22-10)
Just wondering about an upcoming Sourcebook.  In a number of answers to questions in the magic section of the FAQ on Catalyst's site, the phrase "this will be answered more fully in an upcoming sourcebook.". Has there been an announcement on what this sourcebook will be and when it's likely to be available?  I love new stuff.

Thanks!

There were some recent snippets posted on DH http://forums.dumpshock.com/index.php?showtopic=33195&hl= (http://forums.dumpshock.com/index.php?showtopic=33195&hl=) concerning Harlequins Gambit,Arcanoarcheology and High Magic.  The authors no longer being with catalyst.  The last official mention was that that one or more of these books may still be seen but in a different way. 

Wow, that was pretty recent as well.  Thanks.

Wish some of that would have made it to publication.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: FastJack on (21:10:25/01-17-11)
Mercurial (http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/product_info.php?products_id=87675) and Missions: 4-00 (http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/product_info.php?products_id=87673) are now released in PDF.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: PeterSmith on (09:20:14/01-18-11)
Mercurial (http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/product_info.php?products_id=87675) and Missions: 4-00 (http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/product_info.php?products_id=87673) are now released in PDF.

I like this place better:

Mercurial (http://www.battlecorps.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=2674)
Missions: 4-00 (http://www.battlecorps.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=2673)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: FastJack on (09:22:44/01-18-11)
Mercurial (http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/product_info.php?products_id=87675) and Missions: 4-00 (http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/product_info.php?products_id=87673) are now released in PDF.

I like this place better:

Mercurial (http://www.battlecorps.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=2674)
Missions: 4-00 (http://www.battlecorps.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=2673)
Normally, I'd have posted both links, but I was hurried last night. ;)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: KarmaInferno on (10:22:44/01-18-11)
Mercurial (http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/product_info.php?products_id=87675) and Missions: 4-00 (http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/product_info.php?products_id=87673) are now released in PDF.

I like this place better:

Mercurial (http://www.battlecorps.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=2674)
Missions: 4-00 (http://www.battlecorps.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=2673)

Have they fixed the issues with links expiring?

One of the reasons I stopped using them is going back and trying to re-download something I'd bought a while back, and finding that I wasn't permitted to do that.



-k
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Prime Mover on (10:53:15/01-18-11)
New sell sheets up http://catalystgamelabs.com/retailer/ (http://catalystgamelabs.com/retailer/).
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: hobgoblin on (11:53:07/01-18-11)
hmm, "deep shadows". Setting data, plot hooks and more crunch in a single package.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: FastJack on (12:31:32/01-18-11)
New sell sheets up http://catalystgamelabs.com/retailer/ (http://catalystgamelabs.com/retailer/) are up.
New sell sheets up http://catalystgamelabs.com/retailer/ (http://catalystgamelabs.com/retailer/) are up.
Thanks Prime!

Mmm... Conspiracy Theories and London. More on Pendragon and maybe some new Ripper legends?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Starglyte on (14:50:47/01-18-11)
I am looking forward to seeing what the new Treaty of Denver does.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Outsider on (18:46:56/01-18-11)

Runner's Toolkit--A box set full of stuff to make running and playing Shadowrun easier, including a GM screen; "cheat sheets" reviewing common game processes (e.g, combat, spellcasting); an updated version of the introductory adventure "On the Run"; PACKS (Pre-Generated Auxiliary Character Kit creation system), which makes generating a wide variety of NPCs and PCs quick and easy; a booklet of contacts, adventure seeds, and sprawl sites; Anatomy of a Shadowrun, a two-column booklet where one column presents a run in fictional form, and the other column describes all the tests and game rules employed in that run; four double-sided, color sprawl site maps; and a sticker!

Spy Games

MilSpecTech--We couldn't possibly fit all the cool military gear that's available into War! So more of it is in here!

Yes sir! these will help me build my character the way I want him.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: PeterSmith on (21:35:11/01-18-11)
Have they fixed the issues with links expiring?

One of the reasons I stopped using them is going back and trying to re-download something I'd bought a while back, and finding that I wasn't permitted to do that.

Five downloads in the span of a few days is the setup. However, the crew at the Battleshop know that not everybody practices good data backup procedures. Send them an e-mail if you're outside the window and they'll give you a new window.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: KarmaInferno on (22:41:01/01-18-11)
Well, I would, but I switched to another PDF retailer because they don't time-limit their downloads.

I really would rather use Battleshop, but until the limited download policy is changed I am unlikely to.



-k
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Dread Moores on (23:10:17/01-18-11)
It's honestly not that limited. I've had two total data losses of PDFs since the Battleshop started however many years ago. I've had every single order unlocked more than a few times. It just takes an email and time. I mean, there's an initial limit, sure. But how would that cause a problem per se? It's not a hard limit of "this many downloads and you're cut off."
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: FastJack on (23:47:53/01-18-11)
Honestly, the only reason I go to DriveThruRPG more than Battleshop is because I buy more than just CGL pdfs there, and it's easier to get all my links in one place. I've never had any issues with Battleshop either, and I will get stuff there sometimes (usually when I'm redeeming Con Gift Certs).
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Stormdrake on (13:16:55/01-20-11)
Question on Artifacts Unbound.  Is AU the lead in to a new version of High Magic?  Some of the ideas attached to High Magic that have surfaced sounded really cool.  I understand that High Magic as posted on the web will not be making an appearance but am hoping that many of the ideas do come to fruition.  Any comments?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: JM_Hardy on (23:17:16/01-20-11)
Question on Artifacts Unbound.  Is AU the lead in to a new version of High Magic?  Some of the ideas attached to High Magic that have surfaced sounded really cool.  I understand that High Magic as posted on the web will not be making an appearance but am hoping that many of the ideas do come to fruition.  Any comments?

There will be some magic things coming up in a book that takes threads from the Artifacts plotline as well as the War and Spy Games plots. Look for more info soon!

Jason H.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Crimsondude on (14:13:09/02-10-11)
*Whistles innocently*
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Prime Mover on (10:19:22/04-06-11)
Any word on the eta of the fourth DotA book?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: JM_Hardy on (17:15:07/04-06-11)
Any word on the eta of the fourth DotA book?

Won't be far off. I've got the final text and will be beating on it soon.

Jason H.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: The Dweller on (13:06:46/04-14-11)
Hey Jason, and/or Fastjack:  Might I suggest we close this thread out and relaunch it?  Most of the upcoming releases here are out in one form or another.  Its time to get us salivating over the next wave of goodies.  ;D
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: FastJack on (13:41:40/04-14-11)
I believe Jason is using it as an ongoing list on the first post to show what's in the pipe, hence why it's stickied as well.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: CanRay on (14:26:58/04-14-11)
Oh.  Um.  I thought it was sticky because Fanboys were...

Never mind.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Prime Mover on (21:33:22/04-14-11)
Oh.  Um.  I thought it was sticky because Fanboys were...

Never mind.

Hmmm
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: The Dweller on (23:28:26/04-14-11)
I believe Jason is using it as an ongoing list on the first post to show what's in the pipe, hence why it's stickied as well.

But, but....that's less than 20% of that original post left to come down the pipe.  Then nothing but uncertainty!

Its the Mayan calendar of posts!.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: CanRay on (23:37:46/04-14-11)
Hey, that's a good question, does CGL have anything planned for after 2012?

Do they actually know something?

Are they run by Immortal Elves who keep changing their name and business to keep us fans guessing?

Am I up too late hyper on tea and video games?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: FastJack on (23:46:53/04-14-11)
Hey, that's a good question, does CGL have anything planned for after 2012?

Do they actually know something?

Are they run by Immortal Elves who keep changing their name and business to keep us fans guessing?

Am I up too late hyper on tea and video games?
I heard (okay, started) rumors about arranging a trip to Japan in December to take a train ride...
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: The Dweller on (12:15:24/04-15-11)
So CGL are indeed the immortal elves.....

Do they have staffers that are good at weathering and ageing objects?  I have an orzet dictionary I need to look proper before taking it to Oxford.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: CanRay on (12:29:10/04-15-11)
"I hacked History, people.  HISTORY!" - Hardison, Leverage
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Crimsondude on (20:57:17/04-15-11)
But, but....that's less than 20% of that original post left to come down the pipe.  Then nothing but uncertainty!

Its the Mayan calendar of posts!.
If Jason has time to update this thread, then something is very wrong.

But, is that it? Here. From searching the CGL site:


Quote
Artifacts Unbound

Four artifacts have been found. Some of the most powerful people in the Sixth World have been after them, and many people have died in the globetrotting hunt to bring these objects together. Now that they have been recovered, their powers can be unleashed—or the artifacts can be scattered, lost again until another generation summons the courage and the knowledge to dredge them up.

Artifacts Unbound concludes the Dawn of the Artifacts campaign that makes gamemasters and players free to determine the events of the campaign. Filled with adventure seeds, basic setting information, and NPC statistics, Artifacts Unbound lets gamemasters select the elements that would work best in their campaign and design a thrilling story for their game. Easy to use and flexible, this book can be used with players who have gone through the entire Dawn of the Artifacts campaign, or with players just learning about the artifacts and their effect on the Sixth World.


CONSPIRACY THEORIES

War rages in Central America, spies race here and there across the globe, and tales continue to spread of four powerful artifacts and the feats accomplished by those who manage to get their hands on them. To many, the world is becoming more disordered and unpredictable—but there are those who look underneath the surface chaos and see order, or even a plan. They see people and organizations who pull the strings and make the world shake, and they wonder if they can find out what these people are up to before it’s too late.

Conspiracy Theories is a deep dive into the underbelly of the Sixth World, a place filled with crackpot theories and insane ideas that would be laughable if it weren’t for the fact that some of them are most assuredly true. If the want to stay alive, shadowrunners need to know this information so they can stay a step ahead of the forces that may be massing against them behind the scenes. If they want to prosper, they really need to know this data, because any runner worth a damn knows that manipulating people based on what they believe is true is a great way to make a few nuyen.

Bringing together plot elements from War!, Spy Games, and the Dawn of the Artifacts series, Conspiracy Theories adds a twisted element to Shadowrun games.


CORPORATE INTRIGUE

You could dabble in organized crime. You could do some smash-and-grabs. You could find all sorts of ways to pick up a few nuyen here and there. But everyone in the Sixth World knows that if you want to make a play for the big bucks, the real high-level stuff, you’ve got to get in bed with the corps.

The corps have the money, and they’ve got all the power that comes with it. If you want to have some of that cash and some of that pull for yourself, you’re going to need to stay alert, move quickly, and remember that while corps are willing to pay for things that help them, deep down they really hate sharing what they’ve got with anyone. Including shadowrunners. Especially shadowrunners.

Corporate Intrigue provides a wealth of plot points and adventure ideas to allow gamemasters to develop corporate-centered campaigns. Building on information provided in Corporate Guide, Corporate Intrigue provides the story information, location details, and NPC statistics to make running a corporate-themed campaign as easy, fun, and brutal as you want it to be.

There are also a bunch of ebooks in the pipeline. In the Conspiracy Theories sell sheet PDF it mentions that London will be the setting, like Bogota in War! and Denver in Spy Games. The supplemental setting material is something different from the format used in those books and the back chapters of the other 4E location books, but that's all I can or will say.

I'll be honest and let you know that I'm planning on pitching at least four books at GenCon myself (plus a couple collaborations) to Jason, et al. There is no shortage of ideas in this kiddie pool.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: CanRay on (21:34:03/04-15-11)
Jason also had something to say about punching people in the neck about novels...

Or I said he was going to be punching people in the neck...

Or something to that matter.   ;D  As long as there's novels, I'm happy.  Neck punching might be fun to see if there's pics, however...  :P
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: The Dweller on (01:20:20/04-16-11)
Just out of curiosity, will we see a return of the classic style of Shadowrun adventures (DNA/DOA, Queen Euphoria, Bottled Demon, etc)?

I'm slacking and haven't checked out Fistful of Credsticks, so not considering that one with my question.  I just have so many fond memories going back through all the game editions that I'd love to see adventures built like those return.

Heh.  Still have most of those oldies sitting on my shelves as well.   8)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: The Dweller on (01:31:59/04-16-11)
Aaaand another thought just jumped into my head before I wandered off of the forums:

Physical print ebook compendiums/best ofs

Has this been considered by CGL yet?  I enjoy having the pdfs.  Very portable.  But I'd love to have my (physical) hands on something like a Shadowrun annual that combines 2-3 of the previous pdf products.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Bull on (03:08:00/04-16-11)
Just out of curiosity, will we see a return of the classic style of Shadowrun adventures (DNA/DOA, Queen Euphoria, Bottled Demon, etc)?

I'm slacking and haven't checked out Fistful of Credsticks, so not considering that one with my question.  I just have so many fond memories going back through all the game editions that I'd love to see adventures built like those return.

Heh.  Still have most of those oldies sitting on my shelves as well.   8)

Fist Full of Credsticks is a more classic style Shadowrun adventure, yes.  You may also want to check out Shadowrun Missions (http://www.shadowrun4.com/missions/downloads/) as well, if you don't mind PDF only adventures.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: JM_Hardy on (10:52:13/04-16-11)
Aaaand another thought just jumped into my head before I wandered off of the forums:

Physical print ebook compendiums/best ofs

Has this been considered by CGL yet?  I enjoy having the pdfs.  Very portable.  But I'd love to have my (physical) hands on something like a Shadowrun annual that combines 2-3 of the previous pdf products.

This is absolutely being considered--beyond that, it's being planned!

Jason H.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Wolfboy on (20:45:50/04-17-11)
*pokes bull with a sharp stick*

See i told you that if you did a missions annual they would buy it.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: The Dweller on (23:18:06/04-17-11)
With White Wolf Game Studios and The Camarilla (now reincorporated as Midnight Dance), we had established a print-on-demand market based around several of our pdf only books.  You might find that an interesting choice to consider over full print runs for special projects.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Wolfboy on (18:30:04/04-24-11)
yeah and i could technically do that with the local fed ex/kinko's but it gets a little expensive at about $30 a pdf
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: The Dweller on (00:54:53/04-27-11)
yeah and i could technically do that with the local fed ex/kinko's but it gets a little expensive at about $30 a pdf

I think there might be a little bit of a difference between the two.  For $30, we'd have a 150+ page book that would look exactly like all the other line books (with industry standard sleeve cover, binding, etc).  For the pdf products we're referencing here, based on the page count I wouldn't expect to pay more than half the price you quoted.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Crimsondude on (16:03:51/05-23-11)
Since I can't and wouldn't post on Dumpshock, since someone brought it up in the Street Legends thread let me just say this: I wanted to make a plot hook involving elven nipples just to fuck with people. It was mercilessly shot down in the middle of the street like an animal. Apparently I can't jab back at a joke I've thought was stupid for fifteen g-d years.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Wolfboy on (21:51:16/05-23-11)
dont feel bad crimson, i cant either and I havent signed an NDA.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: hobgoblin on (05:24:12/05-24-11)
Seems there is also a e-book only release coming, Unfriendly Skies. More vehicles for the rigger to toy with? If so i hope they finally have cleared up the interaction between launch weapons and weapon mounts.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: FastJack on (07:38:32/05-24-11)
I'm intrigued to know if there's any plans to update either of the Tirs in an upcoming book.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: hobgoblin on (07:40:42/05-24-11)
Both got touched on in 6WA i think.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Bull on (08:22:22/05-24-11)
I'm intrigued to know if there's any plans to update either of the Tirs in an upcoming book.

I keep proposing an update book to cover both of those.  I keep revising it, but so far "The Tirs:  Elves get the Drek Kicked out of them by Trolls", "The Tirs: Nuclear Wasteland", and "The Tirs: Frolic with the Dandelion Eaters!" all have been rejected.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: hobgoblin on (08:55:15/05-24-11)
Ye ol' ork is no elf lover it seems ;)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Bull on (09:06:15/05-24-11)
I love elves.  They taste great deep fried.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: hobgoblin on (10:53:58/05-24-11)
i will keep that in mind if you ever invite me to a BBQ...
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Crimsondude on (11:37:11/05-24-11)
Ye ol' ork is no elf lover it seems ;)
He's also outnumbered by at least Critias and myself. There are a lot of people, including us two, who want to update the Tirs. That's no secret.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Critias on (15:27:44/05-24-11)
I'm intrigued to know if there's any plans to update either of the Tirs in an upcoming book.
"Plans" may be a strong word, but I've had ideas for an e-book proposal for quite a while now.  I'd have it pitched already (and hopefully it'd be accepted and I'd be writing on it), if I could just get the time to sit down and do it.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: CanRay on (17:16:00/05-24-11)
I keep proposing an update book to cover both of those.  I keep revising it, but so far "The Tirs:  Elves get the Drek Kicked out of them by Trolls", "The Tirs: Nuclear Wasteland", and "The Tirs: Frolic with the Dandelion Eaters!" all have been rejected.
My character, Nas, would read those books, and he's an elf.  Of course, he's also Texan and punches elves in the face for speaking Sperethiel and talking about the "Ancient Elven Culture" and so on.

Elves have only been around for, what, 60-years in the current timeline?  "Ancient Culture" my hoop.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Simagal on (17:50:47/05-25-11)
My character Diesel wouldn't care, about Tir history, he may have been born an elf, but Orks are just tougher, cooler rebels.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Greebo on (04:56:48/06-16-11)
Any word on the eta of the fourth DotA book?

Won't be far off. I've got the final text and will be beating on it soon.

Jason H.

Any news on DotA IV or Artifacts Unbound?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Crimsondude on (10:53:08/06-16-11)
I can't speak on Dawn 4, but AU ... I'm still working on it. AU should be out if not by now, then sooner than it will be, and that's affected other books. However, it couldn't be helped and it is the top of my freelancing to-do list (and pretty high on the overall list). But, yeah, AU's delay is heavily due to me and I appreciate that Jason, et al. have been decent human beings and been understanding on that end.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: JM_Hardy on (16:20:01/06-16-11)
I can't speak on Dawn 4, but AU ... I'm still working on it. AU should be out if not by now, then sooner than it will be, and that's affected other books. However, it couldn't be helped and it is the top of my freelancing to-do list (and pretty high on the overall list). But, yeah, AU's delay is heavily due to me and I appreciate that Jason, et al. have been decent human beings and been understanding on that end.

I always appreciate other people taking the blame, but AU is slow due to a number of factors, not just Crimson. It will be at the top of the pile soon. DotA 4 will be at the top even sooner.

Jason H.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Frankie the Fomori on (16:31:51/06-16-11)
As far as I am concerned there is no fault....for me you are putting out great products that make our gaming table even better.
We have three major plot lines and two of which can only be helped by upcoming books. Our games include an Immortal Elf having the party move throughout the world/meta planes artifacts and ancient magical lore. They have no clue as to what he is doing with it all, and multiple organizations have tried to get the same articles before the PC's do. The other game is run by another GM who created something that gives Bugs nightmares....and we are working on containing there threat. Final game is lower powered shadowrunning, used when we have only one three or four players of the group.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Crimsondude on (20:32:42/06-16-11)
You'll love AU.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Grinder on (04:34:15/06-17-11)
Quote
[..] offers the character statistics, setting information, and plot points
needed for gamemasters to build on the story line introduced in the Dawn of the Artifacts series.
Selling Points:
•  Continues the plot strands introduced in the Dawn of the
Artifacts series of adventures.
•  Explores the hidden powers of the artifacts gathered in
the previous adventures and shows the effects they are
having in the Sixth World, as well as revealing how they
have affected past history.
•  Provides a fl exible plot structure that allows players
to follow the parts of the campaign that are most
interesting to them; gamemasters may also explore
locations in the Sixth World that they fi nd compelling
for a campaign setting.
•  Advances the overall Si

Selling Points:
•  Continues the plot strands introduced in the Dawn of the
Artifacts series of adventures.
•  Explores the hidden powers of the artifacts gathered in
the previous adventures and shows the effects they are
having in the Sixth World, as well as revealing how they
have affected past history.
•  Provides a fl exible plot structure that allows players
to follow the parts of the campaign that are most
interesting to them; gamemasters may also explore
locations in the Sixth World that they fi nd compelling
for a campaign setting.
•  Advances the overall Sixth World plot as the world’s
powers continue to vie with each other for dominance.
•  Introduces a new form of campaign book that provides
the concrete information gamemasters need to run
a game while also providing fl exibility to design the
campaign in a way that suits them.

I'm really interested in how this plays out - the chance to make a great book or to really fuck it up are 50:50, I'd say.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: The_Gun_Nut on (11:53:50/06-18-11)
As someone who is heavily into the Earthdawn side of things, will I recognize any of these items (the cover of DotA looks suspiciously like an Astral Sextant).
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: broklynite on (14:56:21/06-30-11)
Question about the Runner's Toolkit. Is it supposed to arrive on the street release date, or it will ship on that day? Because I have a game on the 23rd, and I really want the Toolkit for that game. But if I'm goign to get the toolkit afterwards by preordering it, I might prefer to buy it in-store, even if it does mean I don't get the PDF.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Prime Mover on (10:43:20/07-18-11)
Think street date is delayed to due to issues with the delivering truck.  Pre-orders supposed to still be on time.  IIRC
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: broklynite on (11:25:38/07-18-11)
Urgh, then I'd better pre-order ASAP. I can't tell which is faster, UPS Ground or Priority mail. :(

Not sure if "on time" means they get sent out in order to arrive on the 20th or if they get sent out on the 20th, which was sort of my question. Well, I've ordered with Priority mail, here's really, really, really homing I get it before Saturday evening.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Critias on (15:44:36/07-18-11)
Think street date is delayed to due to issues with the delivering truck.  Pre-orders supposed to still be on time.  IIRC
The main Shadowrun blog has a post all about it, that just went up today.  Hopefully it clarifies things some!
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Makki on (13:30:23/07-25-11)
what's the "upcoming sourcebook" about astral stuff the FAQ talks about?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Prime Mover on (01:17:48/07-26-11)
what's the "upcoming sourcebook" about astral stuff the FAQ talks about?

Don't quote me on this but I think that was written back when there was still plans for the advanced magic book.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: JM_Hardy on (14:02:31/07-26-11)
what's the "upcoming sourcebook" about astral stuff the FAQ talks about?

Don't quote me on this but I think that was written back when there was still plans for the advanced magic book.

Ha! I'm quoting you about it! But only because you're right.

Jason H.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: BSOD on (19:02:40/08-13-11)
Is there any news on the 'Conspiracy Theories' book? Really looking forward to more info on the British setting.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Teiran on (13:12:02/08-19-11)
Any chance of getting an update to the Upcoming Releases?

Maybe some ETAs on some of the books like Dawn 4?  No street dates of course but just a estimated month you guys are hoping to put stuff out. 

(I'm trying to plan my current campaign, and knowing when some of the missions and adventure books will be coming out would be hugely helpful.)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (13:52:56/08-19-11)
JH posted on Facebook earlier this week that he received the first laid-out proof of Dawn 4.  Have no idea the time frame to convert that into a formal product announcement, but am hoping we see something in the next couple of weeks.

AJC
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Critias on (13:54:48/08-19-11)
Any chance of getting an update to the Upcoming Releases?

Maybe some ETAs on some of the books like Dawn 4?  No street dates of course but just a estimated month you guys are hoping to put stuff out. 

(I'm trying to plan my current campaign, and knowing when some of the missions and adventure books will be coming out would be hugely helpful.)
Shadowrun posted to Facebook the other day that "First laid-out proof of Dawn of the Artifacts 4 downloading to my computer now!"  So it's getting closer, at least.   8)

EDIT:  Ninjaed!
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: JoeNapalm on (15:34:41/08-31-11)
Just noticing, 6WA is number CAT26205. Vice is CAT26203. Seattle 2072 is 26240. What happened to 26204?

*Speaking into jacket cuff*

He knows too much.

*puts fingers to ear, as if listening to earbud*

No...no, too late for that option.  Pull the van around.

 :P

-Jn-
Ifriti Sophist
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (19:54:20/08-31-11)
Tease... 8)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Digital_Viking on (20:03:50/08-31-11)
No...no, too late for that option.  Pull the van around.

 :P

-Jn-
Ifriti Sophist

Is there candy in the van?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: CanRay on (20:04:57/08-31-11)
Book numbers often go unused for a variety of reasons.  It's not like they're ISBNs where they had to be paid for, they're for internal/external ordering information, IIRC.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Juno on (05:51:27/09-01-11)
No...no, too late for that option.  Pull the van around.

 :P

-Jn-
Ifriti Sophist

Is there candy in the van?

No Charlie. But the van will take you to Candy Mountain. Heh.

(This message, like all good things in life) was brought to you by Renraku!
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: JoeNapalm on (15:25:52/09-01-11)
No...no, too late for that option.  Pull the van around.

 :P

-Jn-
Ifriti Sophist

Is there candy in the van?


Yes.*



-Jn-
Ifriti Sophist









* If by "candy" you mean "several Trolls with a hood, duct tape, and tasers".
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: BSOD on (16:31:38/09-01-11)
'several trolls'? How big is this van?  :o
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: JoeNapalm on (16:57:19/09-01-11)
'several trolls'? How big is this van?  :o


I'll ask the questions, here, mister.

(*Grin*)

-Jn-
Ifriti Sophist

Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: CanRay on (19:59:57/09-01-11)
'several trolls'? How big is this van?  :o
A lot smaller than you wish it was.

Bubba The Love Troll is one of them.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Mason on (15:58:38/09-22-11)
Bubba the Love Troll, MAGICIAN version!
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Xabulba on (15:39:26/09-27-11)
No...no, too late for that option.  Pull the van around.

 :P

-Jn-
Ifriti Sophist

Is there candy in the van?

Only Candy the troll streetwalker.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Digital_Viking on (18:14:52/09-27-11)

Only Candy the troll streetwalker.

"I'm Candy"

"Of course you a-WTF?? AIEEEE!!!!!"
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Prime Mover on (09:48:41/09-30-11)
Bubba The Love Troll is one of them.[/quote]

This reminds me of an encounter one of my late players (A massive Troll, named Burly.) had with his arch Nemesis an FBI agent in a an airport bathroom at Sea-Tac.

"Don't bother pulling up your pants, I'm about to turn you into a hand puppet."

There was alot of bad blood and years of real time aggravation between these two.  I still recall the choked laughter and hard stares from the other players, priceless.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: CanRay on (11:30:08/09-30-11)
I can just see the report said FBI agent had to write where he quoted Burly...  Wonder how much ribbing he got from his fellow G-Men for that one?

Also, considering the size of troll hands, how long he had before he could walk normally again.

...

We really need a Bowel Disruptor in Shadowrun.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Mason on (12:47:36/09-30-11)
Reminds me of this palace guard NPC in Lagos that got a crush on our resident furry character after searching every...crevice...of...his body. He was looking for weapons, and became quite enamored. He also got the furry's commcode number, and so it became a running gag.

Said furry character is determined to never get a finger shoved into him again. :D
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: hobgoblin on (15:59:14/09-30-11)
We really need a Bowel Disruptor in Shadowrun.
I can see it done using magic (think Orgasm...), but tech?

Heh, the Screech sounds (natch) like the perfect starting point. Perhaps allow additional charges to up the damage done when in single target mode (tho if run from a external power source that can turn very very nasty). The nausea effect is a catch-all, so it could be described in the appropriate manner.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: CanRay on (16:13:04/09-30-11)
Great, now my Magician has to start getting the skills to work on a Bowel Disruptor Spell.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: hobgoblin on (16:32:21/09-30-11)
Would be a "nice" way to distract a guard tho ;)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: CanRay on (16:38:00/09-30-11)
Would be a "nice" way to distract a guard tho ;)
Physical Mask of their ultimate dream Significant Other, and then a Stun Baton/Taser to the Groin.  That's my current plan.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Crimsondude on (17:10:41/09-30-11)
This reminds me of that scene in Louie when his gay friend says that he and his gay friends don't talk about butt sex (and rape) as much as his straight friends do.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Phylos Fett on (06:54:33/10-09-11)
So, what is on the upcoming list at the moment (PDF only, or otherwise)?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Prime Mover on (09:56:54/10-21-11)
So, what is on the upcoming list at the moment (PDF only, or otherwise)?

CONSPIRACY THEORIES
CORPORATE INTRIGUE
SOTA

Some possible fiction?  (Three other books were mentioned a loooong while back.  Cut and Run, Triptych and another to TBA by our Mr. Harding.)

These have had some mention of being in pipeline for awhile now.  We're nearing the end of what was a long list of backlogged books.  (5 or 6 books at one time stuck in time and space, almost all released now)  We need a new big preview list to keep us looking forward.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Valashar on (11:34:13/10-21-11)
Would be a "nice" way to distract a guard tho ;)

Until someone decided to set it to/cast it at 'prolapse'.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: CanRay on (11:55:26/10-21-11)
Until someone decided to set it to/cast it at 'prolapse'.
"Emergency, the President of the CAS has Drekked himself!!!"
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Phylos Fett on (04:00:01/10-22-11)
A SOTA book? Nice!
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Mirikon on (23:39:30/11-05-11)
Can't wait for the new books. But I got a few questions. When can we see goodies for mages like you had for adepts in Ways of the Adept? Or for technomancers and hackers? And rules for designing new gear?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: CanRay on (23:48:41/11-05-11)
When it's done?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Phylos Fett on (01:58:02/11-06-11)
There are a heap of e-books just waiting to get finished, I reckon.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: CanRay on (01:01:31/11-06-11)
Who knows.  Apparently the team is in Seattle figuring things out.  Or blowing the travel budget for the year so they get the same amount next year...

Or Shadowrunning and stealing ideas from Wizards Of The Coast!   :o
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Phylos Fett on (01:27:52/11-06-11)
The Shadow knows! ;)

And I hope they aren't stealing ideas from WotC, unless it is to sell them, and use the funds to make some cool SR products...
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Bull on (03:24:10/11-06-11)
Heh.  We basically have the next two years worth of product lcoked down, at least on paper and with a loose schedule.  I'll leave it to Jason to post more about that though.

I will say that the next "Way Of..." book is being worked on.  And there are proposals for several others, including one from me  (I'll let you guess which one ;)).
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Phylos Fett on (03:43:40/11-06-11)
Way of the Ork? ;)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Mirikon on (06:16:19/11-06-11)
A videogame called Bull the Ork Decker in Way of the Decker? ;)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Phylos Fett on (06:30:25/11-06-11)
A videogame called Bull the Ork Decker in Way of the Decker? ;)

That title is bad enough to be a movie!
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Neurosis on (10:16:50/11-06-11)
Can't wait for the new books. But I got a few questions. When can we see goodies for mages like you had for adepts in Ways of the Adept? Or for technomancers and hackers? And rules for designing new gear?

Have you checked out Digital Grimoire?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Mirikon on (13:50:54/11-06-11)
Long time ago. Its nice, and if I ever get enough money together, I'm going to get a katana like the unique enchantment presented there. Too bad I doubt I'll ever find a GM to let me get it at a reasonable price... ;)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Bull on (05:34:45/11-07-11)
Hrmm.   So we now have two years of product mostly planned out, as well as over a year of eBooks and loosely about 18 months of Missions. 

Gonna be a BUSY couple years!

And some COOL ones as well ;)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Simagal on (19:23:45/11-16-11)

Or Shadowrunning and stealing ideas from Wizards Of The Coast!   :o

Great, a new edition that is not compatible with anything previously released.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: CanRay on (21:07:15/11-16-11)
Or Shadowrunning and stealing ideas from Wizards Of The Coast!   :o
Great, a new edition that is not compatible with anything previously released.
Or you have to buy foil packages of cards in order to use magic or adept abilities, get and use cybernetics and bioware, and so on.  :P
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: hobgoblin on (11:24:08/11-17-11)
I got 5 cyberlimbs, trade it for a wired reflexes.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Crimsondude on (14:30:58/11-17-11)
I wish I could say my first thought at 5 cyberlimbs was, "Oh, so you have like two right arms?" But it wasn't.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Mason on (11:43:31/11-18-11)
I wish I could say my first thought at 5 cyberlimbs was, "Oh, so you have like two right arms?" But it wasn't.

XD. You know, they did specify that particular implant exists and it's price in one of the books...
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: CanRay on (12:56:22/11-18-11)
I want one of those, and the breast implants.  ;D
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: FastJack on (12:58:28/11-18-11)
I want one of those, and the breast implants.  ;D
:o
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Crimsondude on (13:00:16/11-18-11)

I wish I could say my first thought at 5 cyberlimbs was, "Oh, so you have like two right arms?" But it wasn't.


XD. You know, they did specify that particular implant exists and it's price in one of the books...
Oh, I know.



Why did I just hear the Curb Your Enthusiasm theme in my head?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: CanRay on (13:05:27/11-18-11)
I want one of those, and the breast implants.  ;D
:o
And that, lentilmen and gades, is how you break an Admin.  ;D
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Mirikon on (15:16:47/11-18-11)
*thwaps CanRay with a rolled up newspaper*

Bad CanRay! Bad! No breaking the admins!
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: CanRay on (16:53:36/11-18-11)
*Whimpers and whines and goes to my corner*
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: hobgoblin on (17:58:02/11-18-11)
Heh, some variable size cyberboobs would be interesting disguise.

"no! we are looking for a lady with a pair of DDs, not a flat chested tomboy!"
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: CanRay on (18:02:46/11-18-11)
The immediate thought I had when I read it.  Although I was going with some Nanopaste Disguise as well:

"We're looking for a Asian Woman with Black Hair and a B-Cup, not an African Woman with Fiberoptic Hair and D-Cup."

"I'm Black you racist son of a slitch!"

"Sorry, ma'am, looking for a dangerous criminal."

"Oh, I so thought we were past the 'Blame The Angry Black Person' stage of things."

*AR Warning*  "ABORT, ABORT, PR does not need another 'Situation'!"
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Mäx on (05:19:03/11-27-11)
Heh, some variable size cyberboobs would be interesting disguise.

"no! we are looking for a lady with a pair of DDs, not a flat chested tomboy!"
Heh, this the gameplay reason why my combat face build has cyber breasts/eyes and fiberoptic hair.
Being able to change ones breast size and eye/hair colour aa willl should be pretty useful for evading pursuers.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: CanRay on (12:01:57/11-27-11)
Heh, this the gameplay reason why my combat face build has cyber breasts/eyes and fiberoptic hair.
Being able to change ones breast size and eye/hair colour aa willl should be pretty useful for evading pursuers.
Also handy to read the AR info of the officer coming up to find out his tastes so you can better talk yourself out of the parking ticket.  ;)

Or, you know, "I really like your gun."
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: hobgoblin on (18:57:47/11-27-11)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzNTueIdv_c
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Wakshaani on (10:48:08/11-30-11)
Heh, some variable size cyberboobs would be interesting disguise.

"no! we are looking for a lady with a pair of DDs, not a flat chested tomboy!"
Heh, this the gameplay reason why my combat face build has cyber breasts/eyes and fiberoptic hair.

I completely misread this at first glance.

"So, Gloria, you want to explain, uh ... those?"
"My eyes are up here! My eyes are up here! My eyes are ... know what? I just got tired of saying it. So, I had a couple of eyes implanted in my chest."
"That is *so* messed up."
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: SwampFox on (20:28:54/01-01-12)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzNTueIdv_c
Whatever you put up got yanked Hob.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: hobgoblin on (10:37:18/01-02-12)
damn. And such a lovely cannon ball scene...

here is another: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPV6QySTVZw
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Gendo on (13:53:25/01-08-12)
Any info about upcoming books and e-books in 2012?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: CanRay on (13:57:40/01-08-12)
From SotA 2073 JackPoint screen (Can be seen for free on DriveThruRPG Preview):
Incoming
* There are times you need someplace to lay low for a while. Here’s how and where you fi nd them [Tag: Safehouses]
* Want to learn about the wiz gear all those European veterans are claiming is better than today’s bleeding edge? [Tag: Euro War Antiques]

From Street Legends Supplemental Jackpoint screen (Again, can be seen for free):
Incoming
* Seattle isn’t the only city where things go bump in the night. [Tag: Another Rainy Night]
* Well, the last one was popular, and guns make the world go round. [Tag: Gun Haven 2]
* There are groups that only the Awakened seem to keep track of. Now you can, too. [Tag: Magical Societies]
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Mirikon on (14:00:14/01-08-12)
I wanna know when goodies like Way of the Adept are going to be coming out for Magicians, Technomancers, and other such roles.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: CanRay on (14:02:57/01-08-12)
Magical Societies may have goodies like that, I don't know.  Wait and see, or poke Jason and the Freelancers with a pointy stick, I guess.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Keita on (14:07:53/01-08-12)
*grabs a stick and goes poke poke poke POKE POKE POKE*

 :P
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Gendo on (14:53:09/01-08-12)
Yeah, I know about that ebooks(i think that they will be ebooks). But I would like to  know something about new paperbooks.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: CanRay on (15:19:20/01-08-12)
Yeah, I know about that ebooks(i think that they will be ebooks). But I would like to  know something about new paperbooks.
Well, have patience and let's see if Keita's poking worked.

It is the weekend after all.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Reverendo on (18:41:18/01-08-12)
Perhaps they should update the "Upcoming Releases"...  http://www.shadowrun4.com/products/upcoming-products/
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: CanRay on (19:03:35/01-08-12)
Perhaps they should update the "Upcoming Releases"...  http://www.shadowrun4.com/products/upcoming-products/
Well, they either work on product or the webpage.

They really need a webmonkey.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: hobgoblin on (19:21:55/01-08-12)
Yep, when Jury worked for them i think he moonlighted as the web monkey between layouts.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Reverendo on (13:28:59/01-09-12)
Perhaps they should update the "Upcoming Releases"...  http://www.shadowrun4.com/products/upcoming-products/
Well, they either work on product or the webpage.

They really need a webmonkey.

Well...corporate slaves must keep working on product  ;)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Mirikon on (13:50:57/01-09-12)
They need a new wageslave to do web-fu.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Keita on (16:33:20/01-09-12)
Web-fu. That sounds like a jumping spider throwing webs while battling Jackie Chan.  :P
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: CanRay on (17:19:30/01-09-12)
Web Sasquatch?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: MisterJohnson on (17:24:32/01-09-12)
NodeDragon
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: CanRay on (17:28:03/01-09-12)
NodeDragon
Never cut a deal with a Dragon.

Technomancer that gets bored.  ;)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: MisterJohnson on (17:42:25/01-09-12)
Ha.   Never cut a deal with the webmaster.
Another throw-back title could be:  Decker   ...or some hyphenate thereof.

...but, I kinda like NodeDragon
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Mirikon on (17:43:38/01-09-12)
Heh. I read that as NodeDagon at first. I need to write up a Lovecraftian stream now...
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: CanRay on (17:44:48/01-09-12)
NodeDragon get up get coffee,
NodeDragon go to job,
NodeDragon have boring meeting,
With boring manager Rob,
NodeDragon eat Rob, then go to terminal and be productive.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Wakshaani on (10:44:03/01-10-12)
Yeah, no Catalyst Decker at this time. I believe that Mr Hardy is shouldering that particular burden himself. Lord knows it ain't me.

I'm the English and History double-major with minors in psych and soc. The liberal arts are STRONG with this one! The tech ... not so much.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: nightslasthero on (12:06:08/01-10-12)
He needs a blog so he can make a post on upcoming products and such in two minutes and back to make more shadowrun goodness.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: hobgoblin on (03:06:01/01-12-12)
I think the shadowrun4.com backend, or at least the news section, is a actual blog.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: bobo69 on (05:29:57/01-19-12)
Any info on upcoming Shadowrun books for 2012?

I heard that there is a book coming out in 2012 about extreme environments and dangerous places, any idea on what the places will be focused on in the book?

Personally I'd like to see the following extreme environments focused on:

Kashmir wastes and SOX: Two of the most dangerous areas in the world, large areas overrun with mutated and toxic paranormals, toxic spirits and still high counts of radiation.

Amazon and Congo jungles: Two of the most dangerous jungles in the world. Huge continent sized jungles containing some of the most dangerous fauna in the world.


Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Mirikon on (07:01:38/01-19-12)
More things I'd like to see:

Space. There's a lot of habitats roving around out there, afterall. And it is, perhaps, one of the most difficult places to run.

Oceans. Another place that is hard to run, especially when you're talking about those Proteus arkoblocks, or dodging megaladons and the Sea Dragon. But in terms of chances for unknown strangeness, there's nowhere like it on earth.

Harlequin. Seriously, a sequel to Harlequin's Back, please?

Options. Loved Way of the Adept, now get some more stuff out there in the Options line!

Adventures. Love the Missions, but more modules are always good. The Horizon and Artifacts adventures were both awesome.

More Street Legends. Keep those bios coming! I love 'em! You think maybe you could toss in Ghostwalker on the next one?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: bobo69 on (14:41:40/01-19-12)
For the books I would like to see published

Haunted Places: Location theme book on magical or strange cities

Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: FastJack on (15:27:36/01-19-12)
For the books I would like to see published

Haunted Places: Location theme book on magical or strange cities


THAT sounds good. And, I'd fully expect New Orleans to be the main location of that book.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Patrick Goodman on (18:00:40/01-19-12)
There's more enhanced fiction coming down the line. Hopefully this month, though it's looking more like next month now (thanks, Road Block!), we will see the release of "Another Rainy Night," a short (10K words, so short for me) story about a murder investigation. Also has four NPC writeups and a little bit of gear.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: CanRay on (19:40:41/01-19-12)
Hm, maybe I should try some Enhanced Fiction or something?  I'm sure I can do way more than 10K words!
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Deepeyes on (11:01:57/01-27-12)
Hm, maybe I should try some Enhanced Fiction or something?  I'm sure I can do way more than 10K words!

I'm sure you can Ray! (yeah... I saw that :P) Can't wait to read it too! :P
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Valashar on (01:54:39/01-28-12)
More things I'd like to see:

Space. There's a lot of habitats roving around out there, afterall. And it is, perhaps, one of the most difficult places to run.

Oceans. Another place that is hard to run, especially when you're talking about those Proteus arkoblocks, or dodging megaladons and the Sea Dragon. But in terms of chances for unknown strangeness, there's nowhere like it on earth.

Harlequin. Seriously, a sequel to Harlequin's Back, please?

Unless I'm mistaken, isn't there a 'hazardous environments' book in our near future? And with The Laughing Man's recent remarks to Frosty and his former ally spirit turned free shadow spirit running around it wouldn't surprise me to have him show up in some way before long.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: beowulf_of_wa on (12:48:47/01-28-12)
*AR Warning*  "ABORT, ABORT, PR does not need another 'Situation'!"

you'd think any Jersey Shore "people" would be dead and gone by 2070+
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: The Jake on (06:16:06/01-31-12)
Please write up Man of Many Names and throw in at least one adventure with him.

- J.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Crimsondude on (11:34:24/01-31-12)
MoMN is in 10 JackPointers. He has not had stats published yet,  though.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Prime Mover on (12:01:04/02-13-12)
Boardroom Backstabs : Damage Control & Battle of Manhattan.
Seeing these listed on Amazon, any info?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: JM_Hardy on (22:16:39/02-13-12)
Boardroom Backstabs : Damage Control & Battle of Manhattan.
Seeing these listed on Amazon, any info?

Those are adventures centered on good old-fashioned corporate dirty tricks.

Jason H.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Crimsondude on (22:58:57/02-13-12)
Since it was mentioned on the Facebook page, I think it's fair game to mention that there is a politics-themed book in the works.

I'm not going to say it was my idea alone, but I did send Jason a book proposal in the Deep Shadows line of sourcebooks (War!, Spy Games, Conspiracy Theories, etc.).


This is going to be my magnum opus (as products go).
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Mirikon on (01:02:59/02-14-12)
Woot! Can you (without going into NDA-prohibited areas) tell us what sprawl(s) will be featured? Spy Games had Denver, WAR! had Bogota, Conspiracy Theories had DeeCee and London, what locations will this one have?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Crimsondude on (01:17:19/02-14-12)
Nope.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Mirikon on (01:40:00/02-14-12)
Rats.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: The_Gun_Nut on (11:59:57/02-14-12)
KHAAAAANNNN!!!
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Patrick Goodman on (12:48:34/02-14-12)
I don't think you got enough "A"s in there, Joe....
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Bull on (16:17:36/02-14-12)
Don't feel bad, Mirikon.  It's not an NDA that's stopping James, it's the fact he doesn't know yet :) 

But I'll spoil you, since I just got done talking to Jason.  The new city will be....

Adell, Wisconsin! 

It's a small town of fewer than 500 residents, but the election season heats up as both the Mayorship, three of the four city council seats, AND the Sherrif's position are all up for election.  It's going to be a boxed set that includes a booklet of 16 maps detailing downtown and all the major buildinsg there, a 36 page booklet containing statblocks for every adult citizen of Adell, and a 192 page adventure booklet that includes 3 fully detailed adventure scenarios as well as dozens of adventure seeds and plot hooks.

When the runners car breaks down on the outskirts of Adell one fateful fall day, little did they know they were going to get drawn into the fast paced, high stakes world of Small Town Politics!  And what is the secret of the old silver mine just outside town?  And why do the runners keep getting fleeting glimpses of a strange elf in Clown Make-Up?

:)

Bull
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Patrick Goodman on (16:28:42/02-14-12)
Are stats included for the four meddling kids and their talking dog?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: FastJack on (16:29:11/02-14-12)
Don't feel bad, Mirikon.  It's not an NDA that's stopping James, it's the fact he doesn't know yet :) 

But I'll spoil you, since I just got done talking to Jason.  The new city will be....

Adell, Wisconsin! 

It's a small town of fewer than 500 residents, but the election season heats up as both the Mayorship, three of the four city council seats, AND the Sherrif's position are all up for election.  It's going to be a boxed set that includes a booklet of 16 maps detailing downtown and all the major buildinsg there, a 36 page booklet containing statblocks for every adult citizen of Adell, and a 192 page adventure booklet that includes 3 fully detailed adventure scenarios as well as dozens of adventure seeds and plot hooks.

When the runners car breaks down on the outskirts of Adell one fateful fall day, little did they know they were going to get drawn into the fast paced, high stakes world of Small Town Politics!  And what is the secret of the old silver mine just outside town?  And why do the runners keep getting fleeting glimpses of a strange elf in Clown Make-Up?

:)

Bull
I swear to god, I hear "Ruh-roh, Raggy!" as I was reading that.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Mirikon on (16:45:21/02-14-12)
(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/47688_431261085877_752980877_5183430_7821678_n.jpg)
Misery, Inc. (From DragonCon 2010.)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Bull on (16:54:53/02-14-12)
Actually, talking with Jason after I posted, the idea we came up with was more Twin Peaks :)

Bull
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Patrick Goodman on (16:56:41/02-14-12)
That's okay; I wouldn't know how to stat up the talking dog anyway....
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Mirikon on (17:11:31/02-14-12)
That's okay; I wouldn't know how to stat up the talking dog anyway....
Free beast spirit.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: CanRay on (17:37:06/02-14-12)
That's okay; I wouldn't know how to stat up the talking dog anyway....
Free beast spirit.
Stoned Wolf Shapechanger.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Parker on (18:11:54/02-14-12)
Actually, talking with Jason after I posted, the idea we came up with was more Twin Peaks :)

Bull
Hey, why not?  I would definitely run this type of scenario on my players.  :)   
             Certainly the type of adventure that would be 90 degrees from the usual. ::)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Mirikon on (18:12:35/02-14-12)
That's okay; I wouldn't know how to stat up the talking dog anyway....
Free beast spirit.
Stoned Wolf Shapechanger.
AI with a dog biodrone as its home node
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: hobgoblin on (12:34:25/02-15-12)
Oh thanks, i needed that. Seriously, SR have more than one way to skin a cat.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Patrick Goodman on (13:16:41/02-15-12)
And the fact that there are at least three ways to do it is why I wouldn't know how to stat up the talking dog. :)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: hobgoblin on (19:41:20/02-16-12)
Choice paralysis? ;)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Patrick Goodman on (08:29:22/02-17-12)
Yup. I get it bad sometimes....
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: FastJack on (09:28:20/02-17-12)
Yup. I get it bad sometimes....
I'd hate to see you in Subway...
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Patrick Goodman on (09:53:28/02-17-12)
Oh, that one's fairly easy, actually, since I rarely go in there unless I'm feeling like a meatball sub and a better alternative is not available (as is usually the case here in the Texas Panhandle). Not the best meatball sandwich out there, by any stretch of the imagination, but about the only reason I go in there.

Trying to decide on dinner every night at the Goodman home can be interesting, though. My wife and I are both kind of ADD, and our daughter is showing the signs, so we're all like, "What do you want for dinner?" and "I don't know. What do you want for dinner?"
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: hobgoblin on (12:40:48/02-17-12)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZS4EEEy08xA
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Patrick Goodman on (12:52:51/02-17-12)
Yep, that's my house, all right....
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (23:15:16/02-29-12)
My question...what product is this tagged to?

(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/428579_10150579267632415_123763912414_9081042_250280340_n.jpg)

A little supposition on my part, but this is a teaser Echo Chernik posted earlier today...looks a lot like Shadowrun to me... :)

AJC
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Critias on (00:18:24/03-01-12)
Neat.  Huh.  Almost looks like something for Hordes (Privateer Press wargame), to me.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (15:48:18/03-01-12)
Per RNB on Facebook, looks like "Hazard Pay" :)

AJC
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: JM_Hardy on (21:25:22/03-01-12)
Per RNB on Facebook, looks like "Hazard Pay" :)

AJC

Nailed it.

Jason H.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: hobgoblin on (01:04:21/03-02-12)
Did not know that SR had Dune size worms...
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Mirikon on (06:34:56/03-02-12)
Did not know that SR had Dune size worms...
Well, who really knows what is going on in the Mojave? Manastorms and unfriendly natives could do a lot to hide something like that.

Now if they find some new BAD in the desert...
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: CanRay on (10:20:29/03-02-12)
Per RNB on Facebook, looks like "Hazard Pay" :)

AJC
Nailed it.

Jason H.
Got my first cheque, but it didn't include hazard pay.
Did not know that SR had Dune size worms...
Well, who really knows what is going on in the Mojave? Manastorms and unfriendly natives could do a lot to hide something like that.

Now if they find some new BAD in the desert...
When did we get dropped into Deadlands?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: The_Gun_Nut on (11:50:46/03-02-12)
Did not know that SR had Dune size worms...
You'd have to go back to the 4th world to catch its name.  The dune worm sized Horror is called Ubyr, and it has Xenomorph acid for blood and drains the life force from its victims and relentlessly hunts down anyone who actually manages to escape its coils.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: CanRay on (18:33:34/03-02-12)
Did not know that SR had Dune size worms...
You'd have to go back to the 4th world to catch its name.  The dune worm sized Horror is called Ubyr, and it has Xenomorph acid for blood and drains the life force from its victims and relentlessly hunts down anyone who actually manages to escape its coils.
Sounds like an ex of mine, only nicer.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Angelone on (14:22:00/03-04-12)
Could be a Mongolian Death Worm. Looking at the picture somebody's shooting it in the "face" with a firearm that appears to have an underbarrel grenade launcher.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Mystic on (14:45:49/03-04-12)
Did not know that SR had Dune size worms...
You'd have to go back to the 4th world to catch its name.  The dune worm sized Horror is called Ubyr, and it has Xenomorph acid for blood and drains the life force from its victims and relentlessly hunts down anyone who actually manages to escape its coils.
Sounds like an ex of mine, only nicer.

*RIMSHOT* BA-dump-BUMP!

 8)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: chinlamp on (21:39:55/03-08-12)
Did not know that SR had Dune size worms...
You'd have to go back to the 4th world to catch its name.  The dune worm sized Horror is called Ubyr, and it has Xenomorph acid for blood and drains the life force from its victims and relentlessly hunts down anyone who actually manages to escape its coils.

Wait, so horrors that big are already back in this world?  And they're intelligent enough to do that?

I thought the first wave of horrors after the bugs was supposed to be mindless eaters.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: CanRay on (23:17:04/03-08-12)
I thought the first wave of horrors after the bugs was supposed to be mindless eaters.
The plans have been...  Adjusted.

It's up to future history to see what happens next, as the details have been manipulated exceptionally.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Zunimancer on (06:57:36/03-09-12)
Any info out there if we get news about the olympic games? Will there be zero-g games in the year '74 (Evo Shibanokuij Orbital Ressort)?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Critias on (12:58:01/03-09-12)
Will there be zero-g games in the year '74 (Evo Shibanokuij Orbital Ressort)?
Pole vault and power lifting, here I come!
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: chinlamp on (20:21:17/03-11-12)
I thought the first wave of horrors after the bugs was supposed to be mindless eaters.
The plans have been...  Adjusted.

It's up to future history to see what happens next, as the details have been manipulated exceptionally.

Damn, I was really hoping you guys wouldn't do that.  If you bring the horrors, (the smart, powerful, capable ones) back too quickly, there's no bigger threats for you to bring in.  I was at least hoping that Catalyst would save the return of the mindless horrors for later, hell, even another edition (as a new edition is always accompanied by a time skip, and let's face it, there's always room to improve an RPG).  It just doesn't sit right with me for all the horrors to be coming back within the first century of the new age.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Mirikon on (20:49:21/03-11-12)
Some of the intelligent horrors have already made it through. They got put away again, but that's not the point. And there are forces on this side that aren't exactly unopposed to the Horrors coming back sooner than they ought. *cough*SmokingMirror*cough*
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Zunimancer on (21:01:34/03-11-12)
Damn, I was really hoping you guys wouldn't do that.

Just do what we have done everytime: Ignore the plot. Ignoring it in the same way I for my group will ignore a potential vampire plot.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Patrick Goodman on (22:21:26/03-11-12)
That's too bad. The vampire plot's kinda fun....
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Mirikon on (23:09:27/03-11-12)
Meh. Some people just can't handle not knowing what will happen. I like these unknowns that are popping up.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: CanRay on (00:50:02/03-12-12)
Meh. Some people just can't handle not knowing what will happen. I like these unknowns that are popping up.
If you can predict an author, he's not doing his job properly.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: ArkangelWinter on (01:37:45/03-12-12)
Meh. Some people just can't handle not knowing what will happen. I like these unknowns that are popping up.
When you least expect it, expect the Decepticons!
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: JustADude on (02:27:53/03-12-12)
Meh. Some people just can't handle not knowing what will happen. I like these unknowns that are popping up.
When you least expect it, expect the Decepticons!

But nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: CanRay on (12:27:15/03-12-12)
But nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!
I do.  But most of you think I'm the RL version of Plan 9 anyhow.  :P
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Zunimancer on (16:04:29/03-12-12)
That's too bad. The vampire plot's kinda fun....

Might be. I will sure buy the book but never use them. In other settings vampires are indeed fun. My group and I have just decided to ignore vampires in SR.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: All4BigGuns on (20:43:34/03-12-12)
But nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!
I do.  But most of you think I'm the RL version of Plan 9 anyhow.  :P

No I think you're a RL combination of Kane and Captain Chaos.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Mirikon on (21:15:50/03-12-12)
But nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!
I do.  But most of you think I'm the RL version of Plan 9 anyhow.  :P

No I think you're a RL combination of Kane and Captain Chaos.
I was actually thinking Slamm-O! and Plan 9.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: CanRay on (21:40:14/03-12-12)
But nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!
I do.  But most of you think I'm the RL version of Plan 9 anyhow.  :P
No I think you're a RL combination of Kane and Captain Chaos.
I was actually thinking Slamm-O! and Plan 9.
Captain Chaos?  Where the hell do you get that?

The rest, I can't argue.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: JustADude on (22:18:51/03-12-12)
Captain Chaos?  Where the hell do you get that?

Chaos.

Need I say more?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: beowulf_of_wa on (22:31:21/03-13-12)
nah, Ray is just Plan 8, gotta start somewhere, right?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: CanRay on (03:03:11/03-14-12)
nah, Ray is just Plan 8, gotta start somewhere, right?
To be honest, I have far more than nine plans...
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: hobgoblin on (06:32:52/03-14-12)
Captain Chaos?  Where the hell do you get that?

Chaos.

Need I say more?
I do not recall the guy ever being chaotic. Now being the captain of a chaotic ship (shadowland seattle) however...
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: beowulf_of_wa on (22:47:35/03-16-12)
nah, Ray is just Plan 8, gotta start somewhere, right?
To be honest, I have far more than nine plans...

didn't you hear? Eight is enough.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: CanRay on (00:54:44/03-17-12)
nah, Ray is just Plan 8, gotta start somewhere, right?
To be honest, I have far more than nine plans...
didn't you hear? Eight is enough.
I get bored.  I think up more plans.

Keeps my brain from eating me.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: hobgoblin on (17:06:48/03-17-12)
Brain is your friend, trust friend brain...
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Mirikon on (17:21:41/03-17-12)
Wait, wait, wait. CanRay has a brain?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: shrike on (17:28:33/03-17-12)
If so, the next question is... Does it belong to Hans Delbruck?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: CanRay on (17:59:39/03-17-12)
Wait, wait, wait. CanRay has a brain?
Well, the diseased and pus-covered organ I call a brain.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: beowulf_of_wa on (21:07:40/03-17-12)
If so, the next question is... Does it belong to Hans Delbruck?

no. abby something.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: shrike on (12:18:06/03-28-12)
That's too bad. The vampire plot's kinda fun....

I must say that I enjoy the idea of that plot. As co-dm of the Shadowrun game we play, we already have a vampire contact (Risa from On the Run) which is an excellent way for me to introduce said plot. *insert maniacal laughter here*
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Patrick Goodman on (12:27:52/03-28-12)
That's too bad. The vampire plot's kinda fun....
I must say that I enjoy the idea of that plot. As co-dm of the Shadowrun game we play, we already have a vampire contact (Risa from On the Run) which is an excellent way for me to introduce said plot. *insert maniacal laughter here*
Do you have any vampire PCs? he asks hesitantly....
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: shrike on (12:50:54/03-28-12)
No. It has long been a standing rule at our table that PC's infected/cursed/granted vampirism be retired to NPC status regardless of the game we are playing at the time. Why do you ask?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Mirikon on (13:04:15/03-28-12)
Hmm. I've had this idea for a vampire adept rolling around in my head for a while now...
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Patrick Goodman on (13:55:51/03-28-12)
@Shrike: No reason....

Slightly more seriously: One of my motives with "The Vampire Plot," from a game design point of view, is to make vampires et al scary again, and the sometimes means making them unplayable. Not a fan of Infected PCs. So if I can accomplish what I'm trying to do and tell a good story at the same time, I'm doing good. And I'll sacrifice my game design motives on the altar of a good story if I have to.

@Mirikon: I had a vampire adept on my mind, too. See how well it worked out for her?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: shrike on (14:14:29/03-28-12)
I like that you are trying to make the Infected more "scary". I think vampires in general have been subjected to Twilight and Anne Rice syndrome for long enough. While different takes on a subject can inject new life into it, sometimes, a monster really is just a monster.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (16:59:59/03-28-12)
Must agree with these sentiments as well...there is nothing wrong with evil being absolute; everything doesn't have to be redeemable.  At the end of the day, I guess it's always a matter of choice...nothing wrong with that though. ::)

AJC
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Mirikon on (17:40:07/03-28-12)
Well, for absolute evil, there's Bugs, Shedim, Shadow Spirits, and Horrors. The Infected are more of a middle ground. The ones that are feral are pitiable, dangerous, and should be put down, for everyone's sake. The ones that actually retain their minds, however, do not have to be absolute evil. In fact, most of them are just regular folk with a problem that makes them have to feed on people to survive. And the attitude of the vampires in the plot actually reinforce that. One group of people thinking they are higher on the food chain than everyone else isn't exactly new. Being willing to kill and terrorize to prove that belief isn't new, either. They are vampire supremacists, just like there are human supremacists. Alamos 20K doesn't represent all humans, does it?

The vampires in the plot aren't scary because they're vampires. They're scary because they are zealots willing to kill for their cause.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Crimsondude on (17:59:19/03-28-12)
They have to eat people to survive.

Humans don't have to blow up metahuman communities.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Mirikon on (18:19:12/03-28-12)
Which, in my mind, makes the humans who DO blow up metahuman communities worse than someone who is acting out of a need to survive. Now, the ones who embrace the darkness, and relish in the power are certainly monsters. Of course, that kind of person would likely be monsters even if they didn't have HMHVV.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Patrick Goodman on (19:51:42/03-28-12)
Part of my whole thesis regarding HMHVV is that the disease fucks with you, eats you alive from the inside. The disease itself is evil and malicious, and it tries to corrupt everything about its victims. Some of them embrace that, others fight it.

The big-bad in ARN? Probably would have turned out to be a complete stain on humanity even without being turned. He's ruthless and cruel, has way more money than is good for him, and he enjoys what he's become. Teresa Castillo? Probably a lot the same; she wasn't quite right when she was human, and after she got Infected she got worse. They were probably born monsters, or found it easy to become monsters as they grew up.

The central character in "Sail Away Sweet Sister" (the story formerly known as "After Midnight"), though? Not so much. Nice kid who got Infected and hates it, and what it's doing to her.

It's not all cut-and-dried. I mean, ultimately, yeah, you're right to a degree. "We" is a bunch of Infected-supremacist terrorists. But I don't think anything's ever that simple, and if it comes across that way...well, I'm doing something wrong.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Mirikon on (21:36:16/03-28-12)
That's what I'm getting at, actually. There are plenty of Infected that are just trying to get by. Vampires have it worse than Ghouls, since they can't just get fresh body parts from organleggers to sustain themselves.

At a certain point, supremacist groups and cults have a lot in common. You take someone who is isolated and alone, give them a sense of belonging, a sense of purpose, a sense that they are better than the people around them. You tell them that their problems are caused by outsiders, and you make them shun everyone else until they are completely dedicated to your cause. The guy at the top and his main disciples are almost certainly monsters. But most of the people involved likely are the same kind of people as the ghouls who used to live in Ghoultown before Bug City, people who simply had nowhere else to go.

Painting all the Infected as scary and dangerous as some may want to is as bad as people who say they're all sparkly and emo.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: CanRay on (04:24:43/03-29-12)
You guys keep forgetting the evil that is the tax man.

At least Death only comes once.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Mirikon on (06:56:36/03-29-12)
CanRay! You're back!
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: JustADude on (07:54:13/03-29-12)
That's what I'm getting at, actually. There are plenty of Infected that are just trying to get by. Vampires have it worse than Ghouls, since they can't just get fresh body parts from organleggers to sustain themselves.

*SNIP*

Painting all the Infected as scary and dangerous as some may want to is as bad as people who say they're all sparkly and emo.

Vampires just need metahuman blood, which is less useful to Organleggers than the fleshy bits Ghouls eat. If they're already used to dealing with ghouls, as most Organleggers probably are, then sticking a bucket under the drain-hole on the butchering table and selling the "runoff" is just good use of resources, if they have a potential client looking for it.

And Infected are scary and dangerous at anything approaching PC-level stats... thing is, so is a Street Samurai, an Adept, a Mage, a Rigger/Hacker, or just about any other Shadowrunner.

Those 20+ DP combat pools Sams and Adepts take for granted represent someone who is at the upper limits of magically/technically-augmented human lethality; the kinds of people that are better than real-world legends like Audy Murphy, Simo Hayha, Sun Tsu, and Leonidas could ever hope to be. Hackers run state-of-the-art programs and hardware, blowing through security and twisting the Matrix to their whims while the Riggers launch surprise attacks with invisible combat drones sporting military grade weapons. And don't forget Mages... they can call down spirits that appear from nowhere, laughing at the weapons turned against them, to wreck havoc on command as the Mage himself bends reality to his will to fling fire and lightning, heal deadly wounds in moments, and even subvert your very thoughts to his ends.

Any 400 BP character is scary and dangerous. Scary and dangerous is what Shadowrun is all about. ;D
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Patrick Goodman on (09:09:54/03-29-12)
Vampires just need metahuman blood....
Um...no. Of the things that vampires need to survive, blood is the easiest and least harmful thing to acquire.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: shrike on (09:18:13/03-29-12)
Vampires just need metahuman blood....
Um...no. Of the things that vampires need to survive, blood is the easiest and least harmful thing to acquire.
They also need essence...
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: JustADude on (09:40:47/03-29-12)
Vampires just need metahuman blood....
Um...no. Of the things that vampires need to survive, blood is the easiest and least harmful thing to acquire.
They also need essence...

After looking at Runner's Companion, yes it seems I did indeed forget Ghouls don't have Essence Loss like the Type 1 Infected do. Oh I'm such a horrible, horrible person for not thoroughly checking the books before I make a comment about anything in the game. Whatever shall I do with myself.

Still doesn't change the fact that not only can Vampires hide what they are better than Ghouls, but Essence Drain is much more... subtle... than gnawing on someone's face, and makes the person want to come back for more. Given how callous towards human life the average non-Infected PC is in this game, a Vampire could easily salve their conscience by paying willing (if stupid) donors for their Essence and not taking that last point... or, if they just don't give a crap, just taking the money back and handing the body off to the aforementioned Organleggers / Ghouls after they're done with it and getting paid for their snack.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Sichr on (09:46:45/03-29-12)
Part of my whole thesis regarding HMHVV is that the disease fucks with you, eats you alive from the inside. The disease itself is evil and malicious, and it tries to corrupt everything about its victims. Some of them embrace that, others fight it.

The big-bad in ARN? Probably would have turned out to be a complete stain on humanity even without being turned. He's ruthless and cruel, has way more money than is good for him, and he enjoys what he's become. Teresa Castillo? Probably a lot the same; she wasn't quite right when she was human, and after she got Infected she got worse. They were probably born monsters, or found it easy to become monsters as they grew up.

The central character in "Sail Away Sweet Sister" (the story formerly known as "After Midnight"), though? Not so much. Nice kid who got Infected and hates it, and what it's doing to her.

It's not all cut-and-dried. I mean, ultimately, yeah, you're right to a degree. "We" is a bunch of Infected-supremacist terrorists. But I don't think anything's ever that simple, and if it comes across that way...well, I'm doing something wrong.


Really very important for me to get a grip on infected at all is: The origin of HMHVV. Where does it come from. What the hell is this virus supposed to achieve...this is not any evolution thing...this virus must have been designed and released from somewhere.Because its virulence is too damn high. And because it not only spreads too fast. but it makes carriers kill another possible hosts, so it limits the posssibility of infection on the other side. Its completely sucesfull, this virus destroys itself and every possible host. So where the hell does it came from...
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Critias on (10:25:13/03-29-12)
Vampires just need metahuman blood....
Um...no. Of the things that vampires need to survive, blood is the easiest and least harmful thing to acquire.
They also need essence...

After looking at Runner's Companion, yes it seems I did indeed forget Ghouls don't have Essence Loss like the Type 1 Infected do. Oh I'm such a horrible, horrible person for not thoroughly checking the books before I make a comment about anything in the game. Whatever shall I do with myself.
C'mon, Dude.  There's no call for that level of snark, when folks were just politely correcting you. 
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (10:33:22/03-29-12)
Painting all the Infected as scary and dangerous as some may want to is as bad as people who say they're all sparkly and emo.

Fair point and well said.  While my preference leans towards the dark/scary (I don't think everything needs to have a "good" side), there is nothing wrong with any portrayal as long as it fits within the context of the campaign and the GM/player preferences.

AJC
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: JustADude on (10:41:28/03-29-12)
Vampires just need metahuman blood....
Um...no. Of the things that vampires need to survive, blood is the easiest and least harmful thing to acquire.
They also need essence...

After looking at Runner's Companion, yes it seems I did indeed forget Ghouls don't have Essence Loss like the Type 1 Infected do. Oh I'm such a horrible, horrible person for not thoroughly checking the books before I make a comment about anything in the game. Whatever shall I do with myself.
C'mon, Dude.  There's no call for that level of snark, when folks were just politely correcting you.

Yeah, in retrospect that was a little uncalled-for; after the day I had, I was feeling a touch cranky and defensive there. :(
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Sichr on (10:42:17/03-29-12)
Painting all the Infected as scary and dangerous as some may want to is as bad as people who say they're all sparkly and emo.

Fair point and well said.  While my preference leans towards the dark/scary (I don't think everything needs to have a "good" side), there is nothing wrong with any portrayal as long as it fits within the context of the campaign and the GM/player preferences.

AJC

Cullen strain doesnt count. It is Possitive quality


  :D
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (10:46:14/03-29-12)
Indeed... ::)

AJC
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Patrick Goodman on (11:27:28/03-29-12)
Part of me really thinks that I should move this to another thread, since this really isn't about upcoming releases anymore (except in the vaguest sense, since "Sister" isn't even on the production schedule yet since I've not technically, formally pitched it to Jason and Peter just yet). I'm loath to do it, though, because of issues of momentum and inertia that are just as real in coversation as they are in physics.

That's what I'm getting at, actually. There are plenty of Infected that are just trying to get by. Vampires have it worse than Ghouls, since they can't just get fresh body parts from organleggers to sustain themselves.
Unfortunately, I think a lot of the ones trying to get by are lying to themselves, as are some of the people trying to help them. I think "Infected rights" is a tragedy and a travesty, not because I think the Infected need to be marginalized and exterminated, but because I think they need to be cured. When you create this "rights movement" and create a new class of victims, you demonstrate acceptance, and nothing gets done because now it's acceptable.

Thomas McAllister doesn't want "Infected rights," he wants a cure for HMHVV. Mr. Big doesn't want them because he thinks it's insulting and unnatural. They both have their reasons, and they're both blind in their own way.

Vampires (and I use the term very generically here) are mostly just holding on, hoping that they can become not-monsters again somehow. And most of them justify their monster-ness to themselves, telling themselves that they're just victims and can't help themselves...which is true. That they fight it is commendable. Doesn't for an instant make them not-monsters. That's where the delusion sets in, IMO. They think because they fight it, they're not monsters. This is not the case, and it drives some of them mad.

If I sound self-contradictory in places...well, in some cases I am. As I said elsewhere, it's complex (and I know you get that, but I feel the need to point it out again for some of the rest of the audience, who might just be joining the show already in progress, as it were).
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At a certain point, supremacist groups and cults have a lot in common. You take someone who is isolated and alone, give them a sense of belonging, a sense of purpose, a sense that they are better than the people around them. You tell them that their problems are caused by outsiders, and you make them shun everyone else until they are completely dedicated to your cause. The guy at the top and his main disciples are almost certainly monsters. But most of the people involved likely are the same kind of people as the ghouls who used to live in Ghoultown before Bug City, people who simply had nowhere else to go.
Yes and no. Yes, because you really do seem to understand the dynamic of how these things really work. No, because it's not always universal, IMO. I don't want to give too much away, but I don't think that most of the people in Mr. Big's organization are brainwashed drone-soldiers (though, to be fair, Teresa was). Mr. Big provided them with organization and logistical support, but most of the organization would be doing more or less the same thing without him.
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Painting all the Infected as scary and dangerous as some may want to is as bad as people who say they're all sparkly and emo.
I can't really argue with this, even though in some ways I'm one of the guilty parties....
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Patrick Goodman on (11:56:27/03-29-12)
Any 400 BP character is scary and dangerous. Scary and dangerous is what Shadowrun is all about. ;D
Not even going to get involved with this one. :D I question 400 BP being "scary and dangerous," but that's just a personal preference issue. I do agree, though, that this is what the game should be about. To a degree.
After looking at Runner's Companion, yes it seems I did indeed forget Ghouls don't have Essence Loss like the Type 1 Infected do. Oh I'm such a horrible, horrible person for not thoroughly checking the books before I make a comment about anything in the game. Whatever shall I do with myself.
Happens. Don't sweat it. My point was that it's more than just blood; didn't mean to stir things up and cause snark increases. Hope your day is improving; I know I hate it when mine go south.
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Still doesn't change the fact that not only can Vampires hide what they are better than Ghouls, but Essence Drain is much more... subtle... than gnawing on someone's face, and makes the person want to come back for more.
Well, sorta. Lots of things are more subtle than that, at least in appearance. Actual damage to the person involved...the face-gnawing might be easier to deal with....
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Given how callous towards human life the average non-Infected PC is in this game, a Vampire could easily salve their conscience by paying willing (if stupid) donors for their Essence and not taking that last point... or, if they just don't give a crap, just taking the money back and handing the body off to the aforementioned Organleggers / Ghouls after they're done with it and getting paid for their snack.
We must play in very different sorts of games. I don't tend to see the sort of callous disregard for life in groups I've played with that you appear to see. Not to say the PCs were saints, but they weren't callous about killing, in my experience. Maybe it's just me.
Really very important for me to get a grip on infected at all is: The origin of HMHVV. Where does it come from. What the hell is this virus supposed to achieve...this is not any evolution thing...this virus must have been designed and released from somewhere.Because its virulence is too damn high. And because it not only spreads too fast. but it makes carriers kill another possible hosts, so it limits the posssibility of infection on the other side. Its completely sucesfull, this virus destroys itself and every possible host. So where the hell does it came from...
I have some theories on this. I'm not sure at the moment how to get them into the fiction effectively, especially since some of those theories deal with the Fourth World. If I come up with something on how to pass those theories on, I'll let you know.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Sichr on (12:03:09/03-29-12)
I`d be gratefull. (just a quick question: I thought that this kind of "Threat" ,ghouls, Vampires etc,  weren`t present in Earthdawn...but on the other side, I can see a lot of seeds planted in that age...and a lot of evil gardeners also)...and there are always immortality seeking Therans and widespread use of blood magic...
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Patrick Goodman on (12:18:53/03-29-12)
I don't recall them, per se, in Earthdawn, but if this doesn't scream out saying, "Hi, I'm at least partially borne of the Horrors and exacerbated by some of the stupid things you ephemerals here do to your own kind!" I don't know what does.

I'll try to do more research and come up with something more concrete one of these days in my copious unstructured free time....
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Mirikon on (12:51:08/03-29-12)
A couple of the early novels strongly suggests that HMHVV is from the Fourth World. There is the wendigo who turned Twist's sister that basically hibernated through the fifth world, and in Nosferatu Serrin goes up against an elf Nosferatu that is several hundred years old, at least. While the elf could have been a spike baby, the virus clearly had to find him at some point, which means it was already here before the awakening, though perhaps lying dormant with the lack of magic.

Isolated instances of HMHVV outbreaks at mana spikes would also explain cultural references to vampires, werewolves (loup-garou), and the like.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Sichr on (14:41:14/03-29-12)
I thought something like that. Or those historical cases are the cases when some of eons old vampires had been recognized as a threat and taken down...stuff of legends...and those few who survived till today, like Tom Cruise, are carriers that allow the virus to spread in much friendlier background count. Scarry is, that to survive through the whole convex phase of mana cycle they would had to be terribly powerfull to maintain at least basic life functions :P
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: beowulf_of_wa on (08:54:37/03-30-12)

After looking at Runner's Companion, yes it seems I did indeed forget Ghouls don't have Essence Loss like the Type 1 Infected do. Oh I'm such a horrible, horrible person for not thoroughly checking the books before I make a comment about anything in the game. Whatever shall I do with myself.
Happens. Don't sweat it. My point was that it's more than just blood; didn't mean to stir things up and cause snark increases. Hope your day is improving; I know I hate it when mine go south.


"I always like going South; somehow, it feels like going downhill."


i've always assumed that any vampires that survived the downphase of magic either bunkered down/hibernated in high background count areas, helped 'us' generate new ones (deathcamps, etc) or had sufficient power/foci/call it what you want "stuff" to maintain their powers at some tiny level with no magic in the world.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: CanRay on (09:48:34/03-30-12)
CanRay! You're back!
Little bit.  When the cast and pain allows me to visit.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Digital_Viking on (10:40:50/03-30-12)
Little bit.  When the cast and pain allows me to visit.
I told you, no matter how amusing it seems, calling bikers a bunch of nancies is never a good idea.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Nath on (11:45:44/03-30-12)
Nothing like entering an Ancients' place shouting "Here ya go, sissies! Are all your green panties at the laundry?"...
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: CanRay on (19:27:09/03-30-12)
Little bit.  When the cast and pain allows me to visit.
I told you, no matter how amusing it seems, calling bikers a bunch of nancies is never a good idea.
Depends on the bikers in question.  Sometimes it's just hilarious to watch as they back off from your gaming group in geek shirts and denims while they're all high and tough in their leathers...

Which they don't want to scuff.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (07:03:10/04-04-12)
Nice to see that the Upcoming Releases (http://www.shadowrun4.com/products/upcoming-products/) page has been updated on the website...quite intrigued about "The Clutch of Dragons" and "Sprawl Sites: North American".

AJC

Edit: The "Character Deck" also sounds interesting.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Sichr on (07:23:11/04-04-12)
Awesome art on that book... and the gun also looks nice :)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Mirikon on (10:39:32/04-04-12)
Awesome! Hazard Pay, Clutch of Dragons, and Battle for Manhattan all sound excellent, but nothing says joy like tossing your players into a wasp's nest and watching them try to get out, so I'm looking forward to Sacrificial Limb.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (13:04:22/04-04-12)
Actually rather intrigued with the upcoming 2050 sourcebook...another hit to the wallet... ;)

AJC
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: hobgoblin on (15:03:24/04-04-12)
Also noticed that the FAQ has gotten a bump as well (17/2/12).
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: shrike on (15:50:10/04-04-12)
I'm loving the idea of the 2050 sourcebook. Also looking forward to Battle for Manhattan.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Crimsondude on (17:26:30/04-04-12)
Nice to see that the Upcoming Releases (http://www.shadowrun4.com/products/upcoming-products/) page has been updated on the website...quite intrigued about "The Clutch of Dragons" and "Sprawl Sites: North American".
Give my, ah, previous comments I think it'll be pretty obvious which material in Clutch is mine.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (07:07:22/04-05-12)
Indeed...  ;)

AJC
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Wakshaani on (14:14:36/08-11-12)
We should probably plug Way of the Samurai and Land of Promise since they're both on the Jackpoint  page in Clutch of Dragons. Not on the official "On teh way' list, but then, 2050 and Clutch both are, and have been released, so, I figure it won't be updated until a week after GenCon or so.

But look! Samurai stuff! And Tir stuff! Woo!
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Critias on (15:36:06/08-11-12)
We should probably plug Way of the Samurai and Land of Promise since they're both on the Jackpoint  page in Clutch of Dragons. Not on the official "On teh way' list, but then, 2050 and Clutch both are, and have been released, so, I figure it won't be updated until a week after GenCon or so.

But look! Samurai stuff! And Tir stuff! Woo!
*steeples his fingers*

Excellent, Smithers...
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: WSN0W on (19:44:36/08-20-12)
Yeah, those two upcomings were like getting "zazzy" in a triple word score.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (20:17:55/08-20-12)
Yeah, those two upcomings were like getting "zazzy" in a triple word score.

Given there is only (1) "z", not sure how you'd pull that off, though it would be a doozy if you could... ;D
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: WSN0W on (20:19:43/08-20-12)
Vegas Scrabble. Like having multiple decks for Blackjack.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (23:25:35/08-20-12)
Ahhhhhh....makes much more sense now.  Though it does lead to the question of how Scrabble got "hooked up" in Vegas... 8)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: The_Gun_Nut on (10:57:14/08-21-12)
What happens in Vegas...
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: WSN0W on (11:39:31/08-21-12)
You can bet on Solitaire in Vegas.

Really, it's a 'is there a way we can ensure having > than 50.1% chances of winning and/or be able to take a transactional fee with the game?' If yes, then Welcome to the new Annual Paint Drying Contest!
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Mirikon on (12:27:12/08-21-12)
Well, since there was at one point a national Rock-Paper-Scissors league, that wouldn't surprise me.

And yes, that really was a real thing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRIXXCe0Hi0
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Scarecrow71 on (12:48:26/09-05-12)
What happens in Vegas...
...stays on youtube.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Prodigy on (08:35:04/12-08-12)
Have you ever heard of metabetting? In Vegas, you can bet on how other people will bet. Vegas is crazy...
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Nath on (08:40:36/12-08-12)
Have you ever heard of metabetting? In Vegas, you can bet on how other people will bet. Vegas is crazy...
They've been doing it in Wall Street for years.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: CanRay on (14:16:30/12-08-12)
Have you ever heard of metabetting? In Vegas, you can bet on how other people will bet. Vegas is crazy...
"Jump!  Jump!"  "Hey man, what you encouraging him for?"  "I got twenty bucks on him jumping.  JUMP!"  "Damn this town is cold." - Grand Theft Auto:  San Andreas.  (Quote may not be exactly right.  In fact, I'm sure I just got the feeling right.)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Mirikon on (14:25:43/12-08-12)
Have you ever heard of metabetting? In Vegas, you can bet on how other people will bet. Vegas is crazy...
They've been doing it in Wall Street for years.
No, when Vegas does it, its called gambling. When Wall Street does it, its called capitalism.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: CanRay on (18:33:01/12-08-12)
Have you ever heard of metabetting? In Vegas, you can bet on how other people will bet. Vegas is crazy...
They've been doing it in Wall Street for years.
No, when Vegas does it, its called gambling. When Wall Street does it, its called capitalism.
"This isn't Wall Street; this is Hell.  We have a little something called 'integrity'." - Crowley, Lord of the Crossroads Demons, Ruler of Hell.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: All4BigGuns on (18:36:17/12-08-12)
Have you ever heard of metabetting? In Vegas, you can bet on how other people will bet. Vegas is crazy...
They've been doing it in Wall Street for years.
No, when Vegas does it, its called gambling. When Wall Street does it, its called capitalism.
"This isn't Wall Street; this is Hell.  We have a little something called 'integrity'." - Crowley, Lord of the Crossroads Demons, Ruler of Hell.

Crowley was awesome. Not as awesome as Castiel, but still.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Wakshaani on (23:23:14/12-08-12)
"This isn't Wall Street; this is Hell.  We have a little something called 'integrity'." - Crowley, Lord of the Crossroads Demons, Ruler of Hell.

You start talking about Crossroads demons, I think Scratch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aw4dUbutja4

A movie so Shadowrun it *hurts*, but nary a whiff of burglary or cyberntics to be found.

But oh, such a deal you can make...
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: CanRay on (01:12:53/12-09-12)
"This isn't Wall Street; this is Hell.  We have a little something called 'integrity'." - Crowley, Lord of the Crossroads Demons, Ruler of Hell.
You start talking about Crossroads demons, I think Scratch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aw4dUbutja4

A movie so Shadowrun it *hurts*, but nary a whiff of burglary or cyberntics to be found.

But oh, such a deal you can make...
Ol' Scratch is one of the many nicknames for the Devil.  And Robert Johnson, according to legend, had made the same deal for the Blues...  And always feared a Black Dog chasing him ever since.  This becomes even more suspicious when it took him three days to die, of causes unknown.

Any Faustian Deal works with a dark magical world.  Shadowrun is just one.  Deadlands:  Noir has a Crossroads Demon in the main rulebook statted out!
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: All4BigGuns on (01:17:55/12-09-12)
"This isn't Wall Street; this is Hell.  We have a little something called 'integrity'." - Crowley, Lord of the Crossroads Demons, Ruler of Hell.
You start talking about Crossroads demons, I think Scratch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aw4dUbutja4

A movie so Shadowrun it *hurts*, but nary a whiff of burglary or cyberntics to be found.

But oh, such a deal you can make...
Ol' Scratch is one of the many nicknames for the Devil.  And Robert Johnson, according to legend, had made the same deal for the Blues...  And always feared a Black Dog chasing him ever since.  This becomes even more suspicious when it took him three days to die, of causes unknown.

Any Faustian Deal works with a dark magical world.  Shadowrun is just one.  Deadlands:  Noir has a Crossroads Demon in the main rulebook statted out!

No need to stat out a SR one. Just make it a lesser Horror that managed to slip through.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Black on (01:35:34/12-09-12)
Free Shadowspirit also works fine.  The Deals always end in tears.

Common myth, but makes good fodder for fiction.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Crimsondude on (02:13:31/12-09-12)
No need to stat out a SR one. Just make it a lesser Horror that managed to slip through.
>:(
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: All4BigGuns on (02:20:30/12-09-12)
No need to stat out a SR one. Just make it a lesser Horror that managed to slip through.
>:(

??????
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: JustADude on (04:20:47/12-09-12)
Free Shadowspirit also works fine.  The Deals always end in tears.

Common myth, but makes good fodder for fiction.

Yeah.

The Muses would work just fine, really. Lots of inspiration, and they drive you to self-destruction.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (13:32:58/01-03-13)
Looks like Echo Chernik did the cover for Storm Front (her current cover photo on FB)... :)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Patrick Goodman on (14:25:05/01-03-13)
I'm all for that. I like Echo's work a great deal.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (17:42:25/01-03-13)
Agreed!!  Hope she will be heavily engaged for the SR5 book and other games coming out later this year.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: yojimbo on (19:54:20/02-02-13)
Any info on these Amazon entries?

Malevolent End(s) 1: Hunt the Black Lodge
Malevolent End(s) 2: The Scalpel's Edge
Malevolent End(s) 3: The Cassandra Variable

Appears to be another set of modules, this time concerning the Black Lodge. It's not clear whether the series title has an 's' at the end or not.

Amazon also lists:
Ballots of Bullets
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (20:16:12/03-19-13)
Cover for the SR5 box set out on Echo Chernik's FB page...awesome (IMHO) ;D
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Mirikon on (20:38:58/03-19-13)
Any info on these Amazon entries?

Malevolent End(s) 1: Hunt the Black Lodge
Malevolent End(s) 2: The Scalpel's Edge
Malevolent End(s) 3: The Cassandra Variable

Appears to be another set of modules, this time concerning the Black Lodge. It's not clear whether the series title has an 's' at the end or not.

Amazon also lists:
Ballots of Bullets
Hmm. Considering the things that went down in Storm Front, this may have something to do with the Great Dragons deciding that the Black Lodge trying to stir things up has earned themselves a draconian response.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Malex on (11:55:59/03-20-13)
So what is left to be released for SR4? I think some street date releases have slipped past me, and the SR4 webpage for Upcoming Releases has not been updated in some time.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Prime Mover on (00:50:51/03-21-13)
Is aetherology still due for 4th or is that one that's getting revamped for 5?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Carmody on (05:49:14/03-21-13)
I would say at least Eurowars Antiques and Parazoology 2
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (15:31:30/03-30-13)
Well, in the latest GTM, the following products listed:

Shadowrun: Crossfire - CAT27700 - April 2013 - $49.95
Shadowrun RPG 5th Edition Core Rulebook - CAT27000 - June 2013 - $59.95
Shadowrun RPG Introductory Box Set - CAT27100 - June 2013 - $49.95

Info available online in a PDF of the games section: http://www.gametrademagazine.com/downloads/GTM158Games.pdf (http://www.gametrademagazine.com/downloads/GTM158Games.pdf)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Wizard on (20:07:53/03-30-13)
Shadowrun: Crossfire - CAT27700 - April 2013 - $49.95
Shadowrun RPG 5th Edition Core Rulebook - CAT27000 - June 2013 - $59.95
Shadowrun RPG Introductory Box Set - CAT27100 - June 2013 - $49.95

Thanks for the info.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Bull on (18:39:54/05-31-13)
It's Amazon.  It's worth very little :)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: PeterSmith on (09:40:17/06-01-13)
It's Amazon.  It's worth very little

It's actually GTM, so it has more value. Just not enough.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (14:44:37/06-01-13)
It's Amazon.  It's worth very little

It's actually GTM, so it has more value. Just not enough.

Well said. ::)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Ricochet on (19:38:57/07-07-13)
Shifting my attention to 5th edition instead of 4th, to get an idea of when things might come out.  Amazon dates are:

Shadowrun 5th Edition (Jul 13)
Shadowrun Introductory Boxed Set (Aug 13/GC)
Shadowrun Splintered State (Sep 13)
Shadowrun Stolen Souls (Sep 13)
Shadowrun Sprawl Wilds (Oct 13)
Shadowrun Run Faster (Oct 13)
Shadowrun Runner's Toolkit 5th Edition (Nov 13)
Shadowrun Seattle Boxed Set (Jan 14)

I know Amazon dates are dubious at best, but I figured that it at least gives us a basic order of upcoming products.

Any I'm missing?
Any that seem way our of order or could be sooner than this list?

Do we think Sprawl Wilds actually has a chance to come out with SR5? 
Boxed set likely to be at GenCon based on this, as the only other release?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Bull on (19:47:12/07-07-13)
Sprawl WIlds will be out in PDF this week, from what I've been told.  Not sure about physical release at stores though.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (07:32:29/07-09-13)
Very happy to hear this...had a friend pick up a hard copy for me at Origins, but use PDFs a lot more these days.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: PeterSmith on (08:55:40/07-09-13)
We'll hit these individually:

Shadowrun 5th Edition (Jul 13)

Amazon made up the date.

Shadowrun Introductory Boxed Set (Aug 13/GC)

Amazon made up the date.

Shadowrun Splintered State (Sep 13)

Amazon made up the date.

Shadowrun Stolen Souls (Sep 13)

Amazon made up the date.

Shadowrun Sprawl Wilds (Oct 13)

Amazon made up the date.

Shadowrun Run Faster (Oct 13)

Amazon made up the date.

Shadowrun Runner's Toolkit 5th Edition (Nov 13)

Amazon made up the date.

Shadowrun Seattle Boxed Set (Jan 14)

Amazon made up the date.

I know Amazon dates are dubious at best, but I figured that it at least gives us a basic order of upcoming products.

It might, but Amazon's order most likely means nothing.

Any I'm missing?
Any that seem way our of order or could be sooner than this list?

Do we think Sprawl Wilds actually has a chance to come out with SR5? 
Boxed set likely to be at GenCon based on this, as the only other release?

Until CGL comes out and posts the street date for a product, any hard date is speculation. I would more trust the freelancers who post their guesses/information (Hi Bull!) than I would trust Amazon for CGL release information.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: FastJack on (10:31:27/07-09-13)
I hate that Amazon does that...
Title: Re: new game
Post by: Sichr on (11:54:46/07-09-13)
What about Battle for Manhattan?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Ricochet on (13:59:59/07-10-13)

Until CGL comes out and posts the street date for a product, any hard date is speculation. I would more trust the freelancers who post their guesses/information (Hi Bull!) than I would trust Amazon for CGL release information.

That was my whole purpose for posting.  I know the dates from Amazon are pretty worthless (as I stated), but I was hoping that others in the know (like Bull on Sprawl Wilds) might let me know if more than the dates was pure fantasy.

If this list is the first products that would be coming out, that also would mean the other "core" books are probably a lot farther down the list, making me wonder what books would be out by next summer's convention season.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Sichr on (04:59:46/10-27-13)
I just received notification about Assassins Primer on DTRPG.
I would probably buy the book but I would like to ask anyone responsible to change Shadowruntableto.com homepage to something usefull, there is half year old ad for 5th edition and video, well I really miss previous layout where I was able to easily find out what is new. There seems to be more books, but info about thir release is hard to find
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Michael Chandra on (05:38:27/10-27-13)
Just got to click "blog", but yes, it might be better if the blog page is the default homepage.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Sichr on (06:03:16/10-27-13)
ah. thanx... I always thought Blog has a bit different raison d`etre
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Michael Chandra on (06:05:33/10-27-13)
Partially, yes, but when I read your post I figured I'd check it out and there it was. :)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Prime Mover on (18:44:01/01-22-14)
Been lots of posts about amazons insane posting of release dates.  Cleaning out my email today, had notification regarding my wish list  and prices dropping on one of my items.  As well as alerting me The-Cassandra-Variable-Malevolent-Shadowrun was temporarily out of stock lol.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Novocrane on (20:11:13/01-22-14)
So what's currently on slate for SR5 core books and non-campaign / adventure supplements?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Namikaze on (23:49:25/01-22-14)
So what's currently on slate for SR5 core books and non-campaign / adventure supplements?

Run and Gun should be next.  Aetherology got mentioned in a JackPoint "article."  And I think that's it.  I'm sure there's a Matrix book in the works, and Rigger 5 has been mentioned a few times.  I would assume a book on Augmentations would be coming out eventually too.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Prime Mover on (02:22:34/01-23-14)
Iirc aetherolgy and Info on Native American nations slated as pdf's,
Metaplot/deep shadows book about cybil virus.  Run & gun soon. Think only other core book we have title for is data trails,  starter boxes.   Lots other slated but no idea how things are gonna fall outta the pipeline.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Longshot23 on (03:30:30/01-23-14)
Does Firing Line have a DTF street date? I kind of expected it to be on the heels of Sprawl Wilds . . .
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (07:11:23/01-23-14)
I have a copy, but picked it up at GenCon. I don't think that there has been a formal release date announced though.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Sichr on (09:02:59/01-23-14)
What is Firing line?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Ren on (09:46:26/01-23-14)
An advanture compilation just like Sprawl Wilds, complete with both 5e and 4e statblocks.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: tasti man LH on (03:17:03/01-25-14)
Also, the title for the magic book, "Street Grimoire", got name-dropped in Coyotes.

(not the most original or inspiring title, but w.e.)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Reaver on (03:37:53/01-25-14)
Also, the title for the magic book, "Street Grimoire", got name-dropped in Coyotes.

(not the most original or inspiring title, but w.e.)

Is a retro name for a retro world :D

The word Grimoire has been used for 3 other magic books in other editions of SR
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Sichr on (04:25:03/01-25-14)
What is Firing line?

Available on DTRPG or Battleshop?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Longshot23 on (04:41:32/01-25-14)
What is Firing line?

Available on DTRPG or Battleshop?

Should be available from both.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Sichr on (10:01:46/01-25-14)
Got it. Thanx for notice.

And consider this proof that shadowrun homepage seriously needs to be updated   :-[
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (12:45:38/01-25-14)
Yeah...you're better off to check out the CGL releases on DTRPG...
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Critias on (17:08:39/01-30-14)
Speaking of CGL releases on DTRPG...who wants some (digital) boxed sets?   8)  http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/product/125721/Shadowrun-Digital-Tools-Box (http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/product/125721/Shadowrun-Digital-Tools-Box)

I'm particularly psyched, here, because they've got lots of cool stuff in 'em about Sledge, Hardpoint, and the rest of the "SR5 Cover" crew (including a new member, their Face, who might surprise some folks). 
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: tasti man LH on (20:03:28/01-30-14)
Speaking of CGL releases on DTRPG...who wants some (digital) boxed sets?   8)  http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/product/125721/Shadowrun-Digital-Tools-Box (http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/product/125721/Shadowrun-Digital-Tools-Box)

I'm particularly psyched, here, because they've got lots of cool stuff in 'em about Sledge, Hardpoint, and the rest of the "SR5 Cover" crew (including a new member, their Face, who might surprise some folks).


Let's see, if we assume that the intent was for all the pre-gen characters to be equally represented for all archetypes, we've got a human decker, elf shaman, ork street Sam, and dwarf rigger.

So that leaves....

...

O-O.

*rushes off to buy to confirm theory*
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Sichr on (01:51:18/01-31-14)
Why is it called digital? Does it contain anything else but a fee pdfs, like some "digital" tools?
Is it usefull for experienced players, or is it intended to help beginners?
About those 80p rules...are those erratted rules, or is ot just an excerpt from the corebook?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: tasti man LH on (02:06:20/01-31-14)
Why is it called digital? Does it contain anything else but a fee pdfs, like some "digital" tools?


No, it's just PDF versions of all the stuff from the physical copy. And if you meant "digital" tools as in "programs"...dude, this product would have been WAY more expensive if that was the case.

Quote
Is it usefull for experienced players, or is it intended to help beginners?
About those 80p rules...are those erratted rules, or is ot just an excerpt from the corebook?

That's what I intend to find out after I've read through and playtested this bad boy...
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Sichr on (03:44:58/01-31-14)
I'll wait for your review
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Michael Chandra on (06:28:02/01-31-14)
Quote
Is it usefull for experienced players, or is it intended to help beginners?
About those 80p rules...are those erratted rules, or is ot just an excerpt from the corebook?

That's what I intend to find out after I've read through and playtested this bad boy...
Can't wait to hear your results. :)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: bull30548 on (07:06:44/02-10-14)
Hey is Stolen Souls still coming out?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (21:41:27/02-10-14)
Per the comment from JH earlier today, looks like this is still in the queue.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: chinlamp on (05:04:08/02-11-14)
I saw somewhere that Stolen Souls is supposed to have 'extensive information' on New York.  Is that true/false/scrapped?  I only ask because I'm about to do a campaign there.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: tasti man LH on (06:07:02/02-11-14)
I saw somewhere that Stolen Souls is supposed to have 'extensive information' on New York.  Is that true/false/scrapped?  I only ask because I'm about to do a campaign there.


The original blurb said Seattle, but since Digital Toolbox revealed that there is a Seattle Boxed Set in the works, maybe not; kind of redundant if two products within the same edition cover Seattle.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Horsemen on (04:15:57/02-12-14)
I saw somewhere that Stolen Souls is supposed to have 'extensive information' on New York.  Is that true/false/scrapped?  I only ask because I'm about to do a campaign there.

All information I have ever seen and heard be it in forums, release notices or various developers' chats have indicated New York.

The release dates are off on some of the products but here are the descriptions on various things that are in the pipes.

http://www.shadowrun.com/forums/discussion/26743/upcoming-releases/p1
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Backgammon on (07:03:51/02-12-14)
There is already an entire book on New York. Well, Manhattan, but still. http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/product/60699/Shadowrun-The-Rotten-Apple-Manhattan (http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/product/60699/Shadowrun-The-Rotten-Apple-Manhattan). The cover is terrible but I assure you the contents is much better.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Horsemen on (09:30:30/02-12-14)
There is already an entire book on New York. Well, Manhattan, but still. http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/product/60699/Shadowrun-The-Rotten-Apple-Manhattan (http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/product/60699/Shadowrun-The-Rotten-Apple-Manhattan). The cover is terrible but I assure you the contents is much better.

That product is a fairly nice overview of Manhattan.  Stolen Souls though presumably updates Manhattan with hopefully the fallout from Missions as well as the surrounding region.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Sichr on (14:31:44/02-12-14)
There was Battle for Manhattan planed for Boardroom Backstabs story arc IIRC. Everyone is silent about that one...
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: tasti man LH on (03:44:05/02-17-14)
Speaking of New York...

What happened to the third and final Boardroom Backstabs adventure? The one that takes the runners to New York? Don't tell me that got scrapped with the coming of 5th...
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Horsemen on (05:40:21/02-17-14)
During a Q&A that question was asked and the plan was to still release it but revised to include both 4th and 5th edition stats.  Where that puts it for actual release is another question.  I have faith that we will eventually see it though.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: samoth on (09:26:39/03-01-14)
Is Run Faster (SR5 Companion) still slated to be the next major release after Run N Gun?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (09:29:41/03-01-14)
Not sure if we've seen anything formally announced on that.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Ragnarok on (18:15:57/03-02-14)
Is Run Faster (SR5 Companion) still slated to be the next major release after Run N Gun?

I would rather see Data Trails first.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Reaver on (00:13:03/03-03-14)
Is Run Faster (SR5 Companion) still slated to be the next major release after Run N Gun?

I would rather see Data Trails first.


but, but, but how are all the little snowflakes out there to make their little snowflake characters that are not realistically viable unless they come out with the runner's companion first?????

After all, they NEED they technomancer lemur shaman shapeshifter AIs!
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: CanRay on (00:24:02/03-03-14)
After all, they NEED they technomancer lemur shaman shapeshifter AIs!
Hey, I thought everyone agreed not to give me ideas!
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Reaver on (00:28:22/03-03-14)
no, THEY agreed to not give you ideas.


I happen to believe that since I live in Chaos, So should everyone else.


Now for your NEXT idea:


Cyclops, cyber shaman with an Eyeband, 4 legs, 4 arms, gecko attachments, and a speech impediment so it sounds like Daffy Duck!

"It's the giant quacking Cyber Shaman Cyclops Spider!!! look at him crawl across the ceiling!!!"
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: CanRay on (00:42:50/03-03-14)
Bull has put a kibosh to spider-based characters so cool that they'd need artwork.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Reaver on (02:47:22/03-03-14)
Bull has put a kibosh to spider-based characters so cool that they'd need artwork.

Damn... ok.. the next next idea!

Gnome SURGE victim with porcupine quill for fur and a prehensile tail, Technomancer Mystic adept!


Can buff himself! Can Cast Spells!!! And when he curls up into a ball, Mongo can use him like a Morningstar using the tail as a handle/chain!!! What a way to use those "touch" spells!!!!
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: redwolf on (03:36:53/03-03-14)
 reaver you are so dead i'v nearly cracked the stitch's of my wound laughing   ;D  now what do you think:  pixi  adapt that is a butterfly siffter  that surge and now have a bee sting (a guided dart   8) )
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Reaver on (08:10:31/03-03-14)
Glad I could help you out on the path of pain killer addiction Redwolf :D


I have never been a fan of about 60% of the material in The Runner's Companions as they end up giving some pretty wild ideas to players that either end up being totally non-viable in a group, or need such special attention by a GM is borders on Favortism.... which as a GM is something you should try to avoid.


Standing rule for my table is you have to prove how it is viable and exactly WHY the others would run with that "person" (monster is more appropriate)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: tasti man LH on (16:19:21/03-03-14)
Also, if the latest tweet from CGL is any indication...yeah, Street Grimoire is next after Run and Gun. Which I'm personally excited for, since the magic part of SR has always been more my thing.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Ragnarok on (12:04:40/03-04-14)
I'm still waiting for the ultimate Bug Spirit destroyer: Spider Spirits!
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Reaver on (12:12:40/03-04-14)
I'm still waiting for the ultimate Bug Spirit destroyer: Spider Spirits!


Already out there. And Mantis spirits.....


Still alien as all get out, still need a human host to cross the bridge, but they do indeed eat other insect spirits.


So we move up the chain from "food" to "vermin" with them....
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Namikaze on (12:35:02/03-04-14)
Not if we embrace their ways!  The Mantis speaks to us all, demanding the destruction of the other insect spirits from the metaplane of Xyxxrl!  We must assist them in their crusade, if not we will be destroyed!  The Mantis merely wishes to use our bodies as hosts and as avatars of destruction, but not OUR destruction!

Obviously that was all sarcastic, but I feel I might need to spell it out.  :P
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Ragnarok on (20:21:22/03-04-14)
I'm still waiting for the ultimate Bug Spirit destroyer: Spider Spirits!


Already out there. And Mantis spirits.....


Still alien as all get out, still need a human host to cross the bridge, but they do indeed eat other insect spirits.


So we move up the chain from "food" to "vermin" with them....

Oh?  What books are Spider and Mantis spirits in?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: martinchaen on (22:21:07/03-04-14)
Pretty sure Spider and Mantis both were introduced as totems in Bug City, way back in 2nd edition. More recent information can be found in Street Magic, page 183. I read up on Bug City as part of my prep for season 5.

According to the shadowrun wiki, there's also some mention of Spider in the novel Find Your Own Truth.

The 4th edition books don't actually give full statistics, though, so you've mostly got background info on the shamans and their mentor rather than in-depth info on the spirits themselves. Just a heads up...
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: CanRay on (00:25:17/03-05-14)
*Security Spider looks up*  Wait, I have a Mentor Spirit?

Will it help me with the Matrix?   :P
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: martinchaen on (00:36:20/03-05-14)
Sure does! Adept hackers are pretty good in SR5 :-)

Totally making a Spider worshipping former corp-Spider once the magic book comes out...
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Reaver on (03:14:35/03-05-14)
Not if we embrace their ways!  The Mantis speaks to us all, demanding the destruction of the other insect spirits from the metaplane of Xyxxrl!  We must assist them in their crusade, if not we will be destroyed!  The Mantis merely wishes to use our bodies as hosts and as avatars of destruction, but not OUR destruction!

Obviously that was all sarcastic, but I feel I might need to spell it out.  :P


oh we got the sarcasim :P






<begins checking up bounty listing for bug shamans>
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Sendaz on (18:18:31/03-08-14)
<begins checking up bounty listing for bug shamans>
Maybe one should start a KickAssStarter for this. ;)

Stretch goals can include everything from footage from the kills to trophy bits. :P
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: SlowDeck on (11:26:01/04-11-14)
Also, if the latest tweet from CGL is any indication...yeah, Street Grimoire is next after Run and Gun. Which I'm personally excited for, since the magic part of SR has always been more my thing.

Yay! Magic always needs more stuff. In any game. Never enough. Must get more mojo...
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Sichr on (03:17:13/04-14-14)
Pretty sure Spider and Mantis both were introduced as totems in Bug City, way back in 2nd edition. More recent information can be found in Street Magic, page 183. I read up on Bug City as part of my prep for season 5.

According to the shadowrun wiki, there's also some mention of Spider in the novel Find Your Own Truth.

The 4th edition books don't actually give full statistics, though, so you've mostly got background info on the shamans and their mentor rather than in-depth info on the spirits themselves. Just a heads up...

Also Burning Bright novel may be interesting for you.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: MortimerBane on (12:26:01/05-18-14)
Kyle stared, unable to suppress a gasp. The thing before him was huge, with six
sharp legs and a long, flattened body of a shiny leathery brown. A terrible scent,
horribly pungent and one that could only be described as an odor, reached Kyle in
astral space. The spirit lashed out with one of those legs, a smaller front one, and
caught the mage across the upper part of his right arm. Blood jutted from the
wound, spraying the other guard and the spirit.
The second spirit, Kyle's elemental, sputtered near the floor, dim and weakened
from an obvious clash with this many-legged thing. Oblivious to Kyle's arrival, the
dark spirit moved in on the collapsing mage.
Kyle acted quickly, thinking to attack the spirit while it was distracted. His
choices were simple—attack it directly with the raw energy of his own form or
through a spell. Both were dangerous. *
He enacted the spell, pulling the energies of astral space together with blinding
speed. The spirit looked up at him, though its form seemed to have no true eyes.
Kyle had no doubt it could sense him quite clearly. It began to hiss.
The energy flowed, violet, white, and blue, into him as the final pieces of the
spell came together in his mind, and the spirit leaped, spreading its short,
apparently vestigial wings, as he released the spell.
The spell caught the spirit square on, a bolt of astral power that impacted
against the creature's head and splashed backward along nearly the whole length of
its dark, shiny body. It squealed, the sound of its cry alien and painful in astral
space, then seemed to shake its form as though to trying throw off the remaining
energies of the spell tearing at it As it thrashed, its legs flashed about, ripping tears
in the walls and threatening to dismember the others in the hall. Its long feelers
slapped against Kyle.

Burning Bright - Tom Dowd
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: MortimerBane on (12:29:41/05-18-14)
Sam knew the barrier in .front of them could be countered by magic, and he began a power chant to •gather
his strength. Motes of light leapt from his shining fingers to squirm and merge into fragile threads that traced
the lattice of energy and revealed the barrier's structure.
"The gate is open," he finally said to his companions, and peered into the darkness. Perhaps Jason saw the
horrific shape reflected in Sam's eyes or perhaps he felt the terror the thing radiated. Whatever the case, his
enhanced reflexes were not enough. The creature, bony armor covering its skin, row upon row of shark-like
teeth in its huge cat's head, lashed out quickly with a black-taloned paw. . . .

Find Your Own Truth - Robert Charette

(The best Shadowrun Trilogy written, IMHO)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Namikaze on (14:42:15/05-18-14)
What?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Crimsondude on (19:49:14/05-18-14)
Bug spirit descriptions.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Fedifensor on (22:31:13/05-18-14)
Is there any place that states when a Catalyst product released, and if there are plans for it to be a print product?  I know that people who spend a lot of time here probably know that info, but I want to be able to pass the info along to my Missions group.

Example: Gun H(e)aven 3 is released in PDF.  How do people find out that it will be a PDF-only product, and where is the release date listed so they can be sure it's legal?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Namikaze on (02:12:24/05-19-14)
Bug spirit descriptions.

Why?

Is there any place that states when a Catalyst product released, and if there are plans for it to be a print product?  I know that people who spend a lot of time here probably know that info, but I want to be able to pass the info along to my Missions group.

Example: Gun H(e)aven 3 is released in PDF.  How do people find out that it will be a PDF-only product, and where is the release date listed so they can be sure it's legal?

Generally, I get updates from Catalyst through DriveThruRPG.  Also, checking the forums regularly will often yield a lot of help in determining when a product is releasing.  Finally, Twitter, Facebook, and Tumblr get used by Catalyst a lot to communicate with the fans.

As far as knowing that the product will be PDF-only...  that's a lot trickier, I think.  I'm just kind of used to the idea that most of the books that are relatively short are going to be PDF-only.  I would expect Run & Gun and Stolen Souls to be in a paper version, if they aren't already.  I actually use PDFs for everything, so I may not be the perfect person to answer this question for you.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Crimsondude on (02:21:44/05-19-14)
When PDFs of books are released, they're released with the option of preordering the hardcopy version (And LE version in some cases).

If a PDF is released without that option, it's pretty safe to assume it's PDF-only.


Sometimes the PDFs are released as (LE) hardcopy compilations like the Runners Black Book, but those come after the fact and usually after the books inside are Missions-legal.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: biotech66 on (09:25:30/05-19-14)
I'm cool with PDF/print combos, but is there any want Catalyst could show some love to the stores through this?  Could I get a PDF from them, and a discount for buying with my local guy for the hard cover?  Can Catalyst find some middle ground for me wanting content and not alienating the stores?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Reaver on (10:48:52/05-19-14)
I'm cool with PDF/print combos, but is there any want Catalyst could show some love to the stores through this?  Could I get a PDF from them, and a discount for buying with my local guy for the hard cover?  Can Catalyst find some middle ground for me wanting content and not alienating the stores?

That gets hard to do.

Its not like catalyst deals directly with each and every hobby shop, they deal with a distributor like Diamond, who acts as a middle man. The Hobby shop calls up Diamond (or other distribution company) to place their order for ALL their products, and then Diamond deals with Catalyst to get the books. Any discount Catalyst gives to the distributor may not be passed on to the hobby shop, nor is there any guarantee the hobby shop will pass that on to you...
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Crimsondude on (21:32:58/05-19-14)
And Diamond is a monopoly run by equal parts assholes and idiots.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: The Tekwych on (22:40:18/05-19-14)
There are companies out there that do print/digital bundles but the stores that want to participate need to order directly from them. That means smaller orders to their usual distributor, more time and effort doing paperwork and less time for the sales floor, and higher cost in shipping as things can't be bundled together from one warehouse.

Its a great idea for all parties involved that most LGSs just can't afford to participate in
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Prime Mover on (15:45:28/06-23-14)
Lockdown- Default Setting for SRO, referenced on Jackpoint twitter feed.  Teased on kickstarter updates.

Denver 1 Serrated Edge
Denver 2 ?

 Some new releases I haven't seen discussed much elsewhere.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Parker on (19:47:14/07-09-14)
Question about the Alphaware & Beginner's box sets.  I was attempting a pre-order of the physical boxes but they only had the digital box pdf available at the Battlecorps.com site.  Anyone else look there or heard of a release date for the physical boxes?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: tasti man LH on (00:40:04/07-10-14)
Question about the Alphaware & Beginner's box sets.  I was attempting a pre-order of the physical boxes but they only had the digital box pdf available at the Battlecorps.com site.  Anyone else look there or heard of a release date for the physical boxes?


Nope. Absolutely nothing has been said on the physical boxes' release date.

And this factoid annoys me very much. Moreso then people demanding for Data Trails and Rigger 5's release.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Critias on (13:23:18/07-10-14)
The terrible thing about boxed sets is how often the different parts of a boxed set come from different places (different printers, different countries, even), and then the inclusion of another company to assemble the disparate components and ship them again (as a finished product).  So it's super slow going.

Every once in a while there's been a tweet or FB post from Randal bemoaning this process, posting an update when they got a new component finished and shipping, etc.

But yeah, it's frustrating as all heck (and I say that not just as someone who wants to own physical copies to help bring new players into the game, but as someone who wrote a big chunk of these boxed sets, and wants them to be published!).
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Bull on (17:47:25/07-10-14)
The other problem is every component you do adds to the price point.  And not the same way as adding more pages to a book would, because you're dealing with a whole extra level of production, so the cost increases almost exponentially.  This ultimately was the fate of the original box set design...  The original concept was great on paper, but by the time everything was figured out financially, the price point made retails and distributors go "Umm, no way can we sell this, it's too expensive."

So everything went back to nearly square one, as the two new boxes are being developed.  A lot of the material is done (if not all of it, I'm not directly involved with the boxed sets in any way), but I think we're still stuck in the production stage, as we're trying to find the right printers and production places to make the product in a way that makes it affordable (and not a complete profit loss for CGL).  Or something.

This is mostly going off what Randall has said through tweets and blog posts over the last year, so some of that may have changed since then, and I may be off base ona  couple things.  Again, I'm not directly involved and haven't been following the little details.  But it's a massively complex undertaking that's been driving Randall and Matt and Jason nuts for over a year now.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: tasti man LH on (01:48:26/07-11-14)
Sounds like what's been happening, as are the previously mentioned delays in Sprawl Gangers and their miniatures.

Frustrating to me since I REALLY want to take the boxes around the Los Angeles con scene since Shadowrun and the TRPG scene in general here seems to be pretty nonexistent outside of the token D&D and Pathfinder games.

(seriously, at the great SDCC, those two were pretty much the only real offerings there)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Critias on (02:13:54/07-11-14)
Sounds like what's been happening, as are the previously mentioned delays in Sprawl Gangers and their miniatures.
Kind of similar, yes.  The work's done on the Shadowrun side of things (I can vouch for that with these boxed sets in particular for...almost a year now, I'd say, as I was wrapping up most of the dossiers around GenCon time, last summer), but it's putting it all together -- all the different bits (including the box itself, mind!) from all the different printers and assorted other companies. 

Boxed sets are friggin' nightmares, man.  Look at all the stuff that can go into one (I'm not saying all this is in one right now), but...like...The boxes are made by different people than the dry-erase sheets are made by different people than the glossy handouts are made by different people than the regular books inside are made by the different people than the maps are made by different people than the thick cardboard GM screen is made by different people than the dice are made by different people than the weapon/spell/gear cards are made by different people than...or, at any rate, depending on how much you shop around for price, quality, turnaround time, shipping cost, shipping rate, it all can be. 

I'm -- personally -- done shopping around for one softcover book and sets of d6's, and it was enough to feel like a hassle (and the very opposite of "let's make a cool game, whee, fun!").  I can't imagine the headaches being involved in putting together a big, fancy, multi-piece boxed set (and then also dealing with a company for putting the finished products together, along with facility rental for storage, then another round of shipping), and just on and on and on. 
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Bull on (17:14:48/07-12-14)
This is what has stopped me every time I've thought "Gee, it'd be fun to actually write up this game Idea I have and try to publish it".  I've come close to trying several times, but in the end I always went "Screw it, I'll work on Shadowrun instead and let THEM deal with the headaches".
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: scotthiller on (04:40:09/07-13-14)
The Almanac, Shadows of Series of location books are GREAT! Awakened Lands is awesome, too! Any plans for a book dedicated to Africa and the Middle East soon?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Ogrebear on (19:42:27/08-11-14)
Are we likely to see a SR5 Runner Companion coming out?

Is anything similar already in the works please?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (21:47:22/08-11-14)
Running Faster is the book I think you're referring to. While we don't have a date, there have been "comments" about it being in process and we've seen the cover illustration.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Ogrebear on (06:45:44/08-14-14)
Running Faster is the book I think you're referring to. While we don't have a date, there have been "comments" about it being in process and we've seen the cover illustration.

Thanks for that info!

Would you know how comparable the SR4 Runners Companion is with SR5 please?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Kincaid on (08:54:10/08-14-14)
Running Faster is the book I think you're referring to. While we don't have a date, there have been "comments" about it being in process and we've seen the cover illustration.

Thanks for that info!

Would you know how comparable the SR4 Runners Companion is with SR5 please?

Unfortunately, those in a position to answer that question are contractually prevented from doing so.  Solely based on the cover, it's safe to assume that metavarients will also be in this version.  I'd expect more positive/negative qualities as well.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Novocrane on (08:58:24/08-14-14)
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Solely based on the cover, it's safe to assume that metavarients will also be in this version
Likely sapient critters, too. It'd be a safe bet to say most of RC's character options would return; possibly even some extra with the introduction of CFD.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: callmedinosaur on (03:57:54/08-15-14)
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Solely based on the cover, it's safe to assume that metavarients will also be in this version
Likely sapient critters, too. It'd be a safe bet to say most of RC's character options would return; possibly even some extra with the introduction of CFD.

I'm not gonna lie i've been crossing my fingers for playable headcase rules in either Run Faster or the 5e augment book pretty much as soon as Stolen Souls came out

Here's to hoping!
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Sir_Prometheus on (12:27:39/09-03-14)
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Solely based on the cover, it's safe to assume that metavarients will also be in this version
Likely sapient critters, too. It'd be a safe bet to say most of RC's character options would return; possibly even some extra with the introduction of CFD.

With bonus copy-and-paste, doesn't-make-sense-in-5th-ed editing errors, too?  :P
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Patrick Goodman on (16:09:11/09-03-14)
onna lie i've been crossing my fingers for playable headcase rules in either Run Faster or the 5e augment book pretty much as soon as Stolen Souls came out

In Heaven's name, why?!
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Novocrane on (17:51:26/09-03-14)
With bonus copy-and-paste, doesn't-make-sense-in-5th-ed editing errors, too?  :P
::)

I've been crossing my fingers for playable headcase rules in either Run Faster or the 5e augment book pretty much as soon as Stolen Souls came out
In Heaven's name, why?!
You need ask? Pretty much anything that looks like a viable character option will have supporters for it becoming such. Stolen Souls gives info for playing a victim - not so much for being the headcase that's left when the struggle is over.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: MijRai on (21:06:17/09-03-14)
onna lie i've been crossing my fingers for playable headcase rules in either Run Faster or the 5e augment book pretty much as soon as Stolen Souls came out

In Heaven's name, why?!

It'd be interesting in the black-hat sense.  Sort of like how some people enjoy playing the Corp-Sec or cyberzombies or cyborgs or something, some might want to be the Sybil virus.  Not my cup of tea, but I see the attraction. 
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (16:59:25/09-06-14)
Pulled from GTM 174/175:

Alphaware Series - Magic & Gear Cards - Oct 2014
Hell on Water (adventure in Lagos) - Oct 2014
Sprawl Sites - Corporate Hideouts - Oct 2014
Run Faster - Nov 2014

Of course, these dates are not set in stone, but do give us some nominal idea as to what coming down the pipe. ;)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: tasti man LH on (19:44:32/09-06-14)
Ah...so Run Faster could at best come out end of this year and at worst early next year?

I'm game.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (20:26:46/09-06-14)
Really no idea...the dates listed in GTM aren't reliable at all...more used for trade solicitation, I think. That being said, it would be very nice to see Run Faster under the Christmas tree this year ;D
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Wakshaani on (09:19:16/09-07-14)
Really no idea...the dates listed in GTM aren't reliable at all...more used for trade solicitation, I think. That being said, it would be very nice to see Run Faster under the Christmas tree this year ;D

While I don't have any sort of authority to say on this, I can say that I'd be all kinds of happy to have a copy under my tree as well. Because nothing says Christmas like a Shadowrun book full or crime and guns. :D
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (10:38:40/09-07-14)
Well, maybe two or three books... ;D
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (13:47:49/10-22-14)
Update from FB (https://www.facebook.com/shadowruntabletopgame/posts/10152783039964591):

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Oh…my…head…I think the SR Beginner Box, SR Alphaware Box and BT Lance Packs might have hit the warehouse! Announcements this week! rnb
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: McGuffin on (16:48:40/12-02-14)
Hey guys,

My group at the moment is in the transition to switch to 5th Edition. I just tried to get information about the upcoming missing rulebooks regarding cyberware, riggers and deckers. Does anyone know in which order these books will be released and if they are already in the making?

 The official Shadowrun website is quite the mess, for a new customer. It's so outdated and un-useful that I'm actually amused  8)

Anyway, any kind of answer would be very appreciated.

Cheers,
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Namikaze on (17:13:50/12-02-14)
Officially we have no word on a release schedule beyond the fact that Run Faster seems to be the next one down the chute.  We know that the Matrix book will be called Data Trails, but that's all we know about that book.  I believe the plan is to try to get Run Faster out for Christmas, but no other books have a chance to be out any earlier than January (and most likely will come out some time after even then).  Also, it might be a misnomer to refer to the books that haven't been written or published yet as "missing."  Catalyst pushed a really aggressive publishing schedule and it backfired (at least a bit).  So expect new releases to take longer to come out - probably on an order of 2-3 books per year instead of 5-6.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (18:21:13/12-02-14)
Something new from the Shadowrun Tumblr (http://shadowrun.tumblr.com/):
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  • The Matrix has become the home of a number of different “friends.” Be careful around strangers. [Tag: 10 AIs]
  • There are a lot of strange things in the shadows. Stand up to them by being strong, faster, and stranger. [Tag: Run Faster]
  • Sometimes the shadows clear enough to see the drek you’re standing in. [Tag: Sioux Nation: Shadows in Focus]

Sioux Nation: Shadows in Focus is new, I think? Possibly a new range/series of e-publications?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Kincaid on (21:23:59/12-02-14)
Sioux Nation has been teased before, you guys need to pay closer attention  :)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: 8-bit on (21:27:23/12-02-14)
Personally, I'm interested in the "10 AIs" file. Besides Run Faster, of course. Just curious, because there have been no mentions of AIs since the new Matrix protocols in 2075.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (23:38:28/12-02-14)
Sioux Nation has been teased before, you guys need to pay closer attention  :)
Sigh... ;) Still curious to learn more about the size and scope of the book. I guess time will tell...
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: McGuffin on (04:35:38/12-03-14)
Officially we have no word on a release schedule beyond the fact that Run Faster seems to be the next one down the chute.  We know that the Matrix book will be called Data Trails, but that's all we know about that book.  I believe the plan is to try to get Run Faster out for Christmas, but no other books have a chance to be out any earlier than January (and most likely will come out some time after even then).  Also, it might be a misnomer to refer to the books that haven't been written or published yet as "missing."  Catalyst pushed a really aggressive publishing schedule and it backfired (at least a bit).  So expect new releases to take longer to come out - probably on an order of 2-3 books per year instead of 5-6.

Thanks for your answer Namikaze. It's very much appreciated.
I'm glad there is an attempt at improving the content quality. I was a bit worried to be honest, from what I could read about 5th Edition so far. But my players don't want to wait anymore (like playing 4th Edition was waiting...). Probably the whole christmas, I want something new, mood.
Well, thanks again.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Sendaz on (11:58:41/12-19-14)
Having seen and enjoyed the Infected section in Run Faster along with Patrick's comments on new writer Kevin Czarnecki's work in the section, we did a quick search to see what else they might be doing and am pleased to see 'Red' will be coming back in his own novel Crimson (http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/shadowrun-kevin-czarnecki/1119642325?ean=9781936876822) with a projected date of Feb 2015.

Quote from: Overview
Thanksgiving. 2070. Shadowrunning vampire Rick "Red" Lang used to live in a world hunting infectious insectoid spirits and twisted mages, but now he's awakened after eight years to find the world has gotten impossibly stranger. After being retrieved by agents of his long-time ally Needles, Rick embarks on a quest to piece together the events of his lost time, and find his place among the conflict that rages among ghouls and the eldritch forces that have begun to encroach from beyond our reality. He journeys through the neon-drenched ruins of a leveled Chicago and its augmented facades as he teams up with Pretty, a beautiful ghoul, and Slim, hacker extraordinaire, as they weave their way through the schemes and power plays of a dangerous new conflict that threatens to shatter the delicate balance between peace and an all-consuming chaos.

Looking forward to it.  8)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (10:05:23/12-24-14)
The latest SR Missions scenario, Liberation, is now up on BattleCorps and DTRPG:

Shadowrun: Missions: Liberation (05-04) (http://www.battlecorps.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=3399) BattleCorps

Shadowrun: Missions: Liberation (05-04) (http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/product/141997/Shadowrun-Missions-Liberation-0504) DTRPG
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Ragnarok on (15:50:04/12-30-14)
So, when is the release date for Data Trails?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: PeterSmith on (17:08:09/12-30-14)
So, when is the release date for Data Trails?

When it's ready.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: jim1701 on (17:33:44/12-30-14)
So, when is the release date for Data Trails?

When it's ready.

So what's the date for when it is ready?   ;D
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Sendaz on (17:42:38/12-30-14)
So, when is the release date for Data Trails?

When it's ready.

So what's the date for when it is ready?   ;D
Are we there yet? :)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Reaver on (18:09:48/12-30-14)
So, when is the release date for Data Trails?

When it's ready.

So what's the date for when it is ready?   ;D
Are we there yet? :)

No!

And if you ask again, you get to ride in the trunk with the dog. And no ice-cream!
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Ragnarok on (21:08:25/12-30-14)
So, when is the release date for Data Trails?

When it's ready.

So what's the date for when it is ready?   ;D
Are we there yet? :)

No!

And if you ask again, you get to ride in the trunk with the dog. And no ice-cream!

Mom.....Reaver won't let me have any ice cream!!!

 ;D
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Herr Brackhaus on (21:31:49/12-30-14)
So, when is the release date for Data Trails?

When it's ready.

So what's the date for when it is ready?   ;D
Soon(TM)

Seriously, though, you guys must know Catalyst's stance on this by now, I do and I've been following 5th edition for less than a year. Why flamebait ask when you must know you're never going to get an official response beyond "when it's ready"?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Sendaz on (21:45:54/12-30-14)
So, when is the release date for Data Trails?

When it's ready.

So what's the date for when it is ready?   ;D
Soon(TM)

Seriously, though, you guys must know Catalyst's stance on this by now, I do and I've been following 5th edition for less than a year. Why flamebait ask when you must know you're never going to get an official response beyond "when it's ready"?
DAD!!......Herr Brackhaus broke the chain post!

Teasing aside, I don't think Jim was flamebaiting, hence the use of a smiley at the end of his line, but rather just poking a little fun at the reply as did myself by picking up the line afterwards.

We all know it will come when it comes, but sometimes a little humor to help defuse it a bit never hurts.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: jim1701 on (22:07:22/12-30-14)
So, when is the release date for Data Trails?

When it's ready.

So what's the date for when it is ready?   ;D
Soon(TM)

Seriously, though, you guys must know Catalyst's stance on this by now, I do and I've been following 5th edition for less than a year. Why flamebait ask when you must know you're never going to get an official response beyond "when it's ready"?

If you really took that seriously you really need to learn to relax.   ;D
Title: PDF vs. Physical
Post by: Fable on (17:09:07/01-20-15)
Trying to stay on top of 5th Edition releases. I know we have the following on PDF already:


Question isn't release date, per se, as much as "is released". Are any of these products already available in print, or are these all in that void between PDF and print?
Title: Re: PDF vs. Physical
Post by: AJCarrington on (17:21:11/01-20-15)
Trying to stay on top of 5th Edition releases. I know we have the following on PDF already:

  • Firing Line
    London Falling
    Run Faster

Question isn't release date, per se, as much as "is released". Are any of these products already available in print, or are these all in that void between PDF and print?
Run Faster is on the books to be printed...available for pre-order currently. I was able to get a copy of Firing Line via a friend at GenCon, but not sure if it is moving to "general release" (thought I think it is). London Falling has only been released in PDF, not sure if it will see print, though I suspect so as that has been the "trend" with Firing Line and Sprawl Wilds.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Herr Brackhaus on (14:08:20/01-22-15)
Official coming releases page has been updated:
http://www.shadowruntabletop.com/products/upcoming-products/
Title: Re: PDF vs. Physical
Post by: AJCarrington on (16:52:32/01-22-15)
Trying to stay on top of 5th Edition releases. I know we have the following on PDF already:

  • Firing Line
    London Falling
    Run Faster

Question isn't release date, per se, as much as "is released". Are any of these products already available in print, or are these all in that void between PDF and print?

FYI, Firing Line is available from Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Shadowrun-Firingline/dp/1936876906/ref=pd_sim_b_20?ie=UTF8&refRID=14DF4WMGX6V27PPZN1HM)...the poor listing title (Firingline) messed up my search previously.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: tasti man LH on (20:57:14/01-23-15)
Official coming releases page has been updated:
http://www.shadowruntabletop.com/products/upcoming-products/

Ok, this (in combination with FB posts) confirms that yes, Data Trails is next when it comes to rulebooks. Only new reveal is Bloody Business, everything else we've known about to some extent. And three upcoming novels? Man, they weren't kidding about wanting to get the ball rolling again on SR fiction. 
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Patrick Goodman on (10:39:12/01-24-15)
And three upcoming novels? Man, they weren't kidding about wanting to get the ball rolling again on SR fiction.
We've told you and told you, and you didn't believe us...it's hurtful. :)

But yeah, we're serious. That's all some of us are in it for; the rules stuff that some of us do is just a means to an end.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: winterhawk on (12:31:54/01-24-15)
But yeah, we're serious. That's all some of us are in it for; the rules stuff that some of us do is just a means to an end.

Yep, this. Believe me, you don't want to let me write rules. :)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Critias on (13:07:46/01-24-15)
Also, there're more than three coming.   ;)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: 8-bit on (13:24:04/01-24-15)
Also, there're more than three coming.   ;)

This is a sign; I've never seen 3 Freelancers post in a row. The time of Shadowrun novels is upon us!
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Herr Brackhaus on (13:35:19/01-24-15)
Also, there're more than three coming.   ;)

This is a sign; I've never seen 3 Freelancers post in a row. The time of Shadowrun novels is upon us!
Huzzah!
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Patrick Goodman on (15:15:36/01-24-15)
I haven't even pitched mine yet, either. And it's not what most of you guys are expecting...which I like. :)

I have, incidentally, been a beta reader for one of the upcoming novels. I think you're gonna like it. A lot.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: MijRai on (16:01:27/01-24-15)
If that's Crimson, I can't wait. 
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Crimsondude on (16:32:05/01-24-15)
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (20:42:07/01-24-15)
Also, there're more than three coming.   ;)

And there was much rejoicing...to be had in the sprawl ;D
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Sichr on (02:43:02/01-25-15)
Official coming releases page has been updated:
http://www.shadowruntabletop.com/products/upcoming-products/

Its good to see Battle for Mannhattan is still in the schedule, I was serriously worried it would disappear into oblivion. Also...Lockdown and Bloody Bussiness...I feel my trust in 5ed is getting resuscitated after all.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Grinder on (06:34:33/01-25-15)
I'm excited about Lockdown.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: CanRay on (16:41:01/01-27-15)
But yeah, we're serious. That's all some of us are in it for; the rules stuff that some of us do is just a means to an end.
Yep, this. Believe me, you don't want to let me write rules. :)
Could be worse.  Could be me writing rules.  ;D
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Sendaz on (16:44:43/01-27-15)
But yeah, we're serious. That's all some of us are in it for; the rules stuff that some of us do is just a means to an end.
Yep, this. Believe me, you don't want to let me write rules. :)
Could be worse.  Could be me writing rules.  ;D
let me guess.... MungoRun™ 
Where you see Mungo... and RUN! :P
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Patrick Goodman on (17:58:34/01-27-15)
But yeah, we're serious. That's all some of us are in it for; the rules stuff that some of us do is just a means to an end.
Yep, this. Believe me, you don't want to let me write rules. :)
Could be worse.  Could be me writing rules.  ;D
let me guess.... MungoRun™ 
Where you see Mungo... and RUN! :P
That's just logic and good sense there. Who needs rules?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Sendaz on (18:34:02/01-27-15)
But yeah, we're serious. That's all some of us are in it for; the rules stuff that some of us do is just a means to an end.
Yep, this. Believe me, you don't want to let me write rules. :)
Could be worse.  Could be me writing rules.  ;D
let me guess.... MungoRun™ 
Where you see Mungo... and RUN! :P
That's just logic and good sense there. Who needs rules?
In MungoRun™ the rules state more experienced players have a faster movement rate than the new guys, probably due to them having  learned to run first and ask questions later.

In MungoRun™ The Decking Rules are much better laid out and Mungo happens to be one of the best Deckers. 
He even once Decked Lofwyr. Not the S-K Host, Lofwyr.





Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Eneroth on (17:16:59/01-30-15)
Hello chummers,

I am trying to get a list of 5th edition books that are out on pdf and the ones that are physical books.  The home page is, not for a better way of saying it a complete mess on their products.  I wish they had a list of just the 5th edition products they had.  Looking at the information on the home page I am unsure if books are 4th edition or 5th, no way of telling them apart.  Perhaps making a section for both editions would just be easier so new players know what is going on.

Looking to start a game soon, and not knowing what I need to read and buy makes me wonder if they want to sell there items.  The core book looks amazing, and I have Street Grimoir, GM screen,  and Run & Gun (on back order on Amazon).

Thank you greatly for any information, looking to spend my money just not sure what to spend it on.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Namikaze on (17:54:41/01-30-15)
This question has been asked SOOOOO much.  The website isn't a great resource for finding the products - instead, check out the various online retailers such as DriveThruRPG or BattleShop.

http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/browse/pub/2216/Catalyst-Game-Labs/subcategory/4328_10253/Shadowrun-Fifth-Edition
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Herr Brackhaus on (18:15:10/01-30-15)
Eneroth
I'd also point you to this discussion for errata to said products: http://forums.shadowruntabletop.com/index.php?topic=19489.0

Timothy M. Patrick has compiled a most excellent list right here: http://criticalglitch.com/?page_id=563
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Eneroth on (18:49:46/02-27-15)
This question has been asked SOOOOO much.  The website isn't a great resource for finding the products - instead, check out the various online retailers such as DriveThruRPG or BattleShop.

http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/browse/pub/2216/Catalyst-Game-Labs/subcategory/4328_10253/Shadowrun-Fifth-Edition

Thanks, trying to catch up on the books first.  I don't mind reading a novel on my tablet, but a rule book.. I want to have it in my hands so I can flip through the pages.  Right now I have four books and the gm screen.  The quality of the books is amazing.

Is this really the best way to look for the books on another website?  Are they planning on fixing there web site?

I did pick up Hero Labs, which is super helpful
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Bull on (02:09:40/02-28-15)
"Fixing the Website" is apparently a huge task, and one we don't have a dedicated person to handle.  It's something that's been in process for a while, but I have no idea when it will be accomplished.

The BattleShop is CGL's official online store though, and while navigating it can be a pain at times, it's a perfectly legit way to buy, order, and eevn pre-order both PDF and Print products.

DrivethruRPG is also viable and legit alternative source for PDF's, since that's one we work directly with (and we even are the ones who upload PDF product to there).

Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: happybritches on (22:07:45/03-19-15)
Battleshop was once a great place to preorder content from catalyst, nowadays they don't respond to email, don't update shipping status, make it nearly impossible to search/find the item you are looking for, and generally have nothing "on the shelf" as far as Shadowrun 5E material is concerned. The battleshop website desperately needs to be updated, and they need some new management. You would think that ordering something from Catalyst would increase your likelihood of getting your books in a timely manner, I mean, they are the publisher, this is not the case.  You can expect to wait over a week for any sort of status update on your order, and that is assuming the book/item is actually in stock. Good luck finding shadow run products in stock at battlecorps. 

I try to buy my products for my FLGS, but they don't carry Catalyst products anymore due to the Core Rulebooks falling apart and the inability for them to make or stick to a release date/schedule. I wish I could cancel the order I made with them in early January for the "Pay Data" boxed sets. I could have ordered them from Amazon for about $30 less and have received the items in less than the two months I have been waiting. 

I get that the place is perpetually "Short Staffed", but the reality is that they should hire more people so this isn't a problem.  I think the best thing they could do for the image is to scrap the whole battleshop website, hire a real web designer to make an easy to use page, and hire a new inventory/operations manager to over see the whole thing. 
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (16:14:35/04-24-15)
To follow up on the digital release of Crimson and 10 Terrorists earlier today, I wanted to pass along some additional info about upcoming products in the pipeline:

Lockdown - the campaign book associated with Shadowrun Chronicles - Boston, the current goal is to have the digital release ready to go in early May; print is targeted for June, but no hard release dates yet.

Bloody Business - another campaign book focused on corporate machinations should be following right on the heals of Lockdown. We're hoping for a concurrent release, but won't be able to firm up for a couple more weeks.

Data Trails - the next core expansion is up and we are hoping to have copies at Origins.

Looking a little further out, additional working titles include Hard Targets (a Deep Shadows book focusing on wet work, much as Stolen Souls focused on extractions)  and Chrome Flesh (core expansion covering augmentation).

Please note that the info being presented represents current best estimates and is subject to change. I plan to update as dates and details firm, but recognize that the situation can (and likely will) change, despite the best efforts of all involved.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Csjarrat on (17:31:14/04-24-15)
Good to know, thanks. Any news on rigger expansions in the future?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Crimsondude on (19:01:38/04-24-15)
Nothing public.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Herr Brackhaus on (19:47:48/04-24-15)
Thanks guys, great news . Can't wait. :)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: DeathStrobe on (20:48:19/04-25-15)
I can't wait to see that Boston book. I've played a bit of Shadowrun Chronicles. And the idea to tie these two products together seems really cool to me. I hope you guys and Cliffhanger can do that again.

And Data Trails is so close...so close... I can't wait.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (17:44:31/05-17-15)
Wanted to follow up my post from last month and provide another snap shot of the products currently in process:

Data Trails - currently targeting a digital release later this month, with plans to have print copies at Origins.

Wolf & Buffalo - enhanced fiction, part of the Shadows in Focus: Sioux Nation series, should be coming out in conjunction with Data Trails

High Caliber Ops - an expansion for Shadowrun: Crossfire is well underway...but still too early to confirm dates. It should include two new role cards as well as missions, black market and obstacle cards.

Chrome Flesh - in process...targeting to have for GenCon

Lots of good stuff coming guys... ;D

Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Pixie on (11:45:41/05-18-15)
Lots of good stuff coming guys... ;D

+100 Internet Points!
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Herr Brackhaus on (11:50:20/05-18-15)
I'd link the "shut up and take my money" meme, but I think that's been done enough around here :)

So, I'll instead just say thanks for keeping the information flowing, AJ. I for one really appreciate the communication effort.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Kincaid on (14:11:22/05-18-15)
I haven't seen a single word of it, but I'm very psyched for Hard Targets--that's right in the wheelhouse of a few of my characters.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (12:59:50/06-30-15)
It's been a while since my last update...some new info, hot off the presses, focusing on GenCon and following releases:

Data Trails - Street date is July 08, 2015

Shaken: No Job Too Small - novel by Russell Zimmerman  has a street date of July 08 (though also showing available NOW at B&N); digital release will follow soon after

Boundless Mercy - compilation of Missions, targeting GenCon for release

High Caliber Ops (Shadowrun: Crossfire) - expansion targeting for GenCon release

Chrome Flesh - PDF released...trying to have some copies at GenCon, but TBD

Corporate Hideouts  - a Sprawl Sites map/book combo focusing on various corp locations, targeting late summer

Hard Targets - a new Deep Shadows source book focusing on wetwork and providing some setting info for Havana, targeting late summer

That's all for now, enjoy  ;D
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Starglyte on (18:12:44/06-30-15)
OOOOO Havana! Looking forward to that.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Corporate Dog on (17:08:04/07-06-15)
Any news on 'Shadows in Focus: Butte'? Is this still a scheduled product?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Crimsondude on (17:38:04/07-06-15)
No news.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: PiXeL01 on (18:51:43/07-08-15)
How about a street date for Chrome Flesh?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (19:31:43/07-08-15)
Nothing official yet, but if we look at Data Trails for reference, probably about a month or so after GenCon...so late Aug / early Sept?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Kinkerbell on (21:27:21/07-13-15)
Hoi, chummers! First, I just want to thank you guys (Crimsondude and AJCarrington) for being a constant supply of awesome information. My query is thus: as soon as Data Trails came out in pdf there were rumblings of a technomancer-specific add-on or book coming down the pipe. I know its too early to ask for details, but is there a title for which I can keep my eyes peeled?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (21:51:09/07-13-15)
Not something that I've got anything official on, but will see what I can dig up.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Critias on (22:51:15/07-13-15)
There isn't, that I know of, yet.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Wakshaani on (23:36:02/07-13-15)
The author's still doing research I believe, so writing's a bit off, and release will be a bit after that. I'd say that it won't happen in the next three months, but could be possible by year's end? This is just speculative, but at least you won't be thinking it'll drop, like, at GenCOn or the like.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Crimsondude on (00:04:22/07-14-15)
Hoi, chummers! First, I just want to thank you guys (Crimsondude and AJCarrington) for being a constant supply of awesome information. My query is thus: as soon as Data Trails came out in pdf there were rumblings of a technomancer-specific add-on or book coming down the pipe. I know its too early to ask for details, but is there a title for which I can keep my eyes peeled?
Nothing public.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (11:47:51/07-14-15)
To support up the comments above, confirmed with Jason that this IS a product under development, but too early to talk about timelines and such.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: ShadowMaster on (06:48:36/07-16-15)
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Hi! I haven't introduced myself, but I'm Amy Veeres, a freelancer with Catalyst. I've written some stuff for Chrome Flesh and a new book in the 10 ______s series, but this thread is about something you'll see from me either late this year or early next, a book entirely about Technomancers!

This is from the post, http://forums.shadowruntabletop.com/index.php?topic=20871.0 (http://forums.shadowruntabletop.com/index.php?topic=20871.0)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Kinkerbell on (03:43:51/07-17-15)
Wow, thank you everyone for replying in such a timely and comprehensive manner! Its really nice to see such a flurry of response to a single question from just another player.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Crimsondude on (10:52:56/07-24-15)
Reposting this from the Shadowrun tumblr (http://shadowrun.tumblr.com), because AJCarrington shouldn't get to have all the fun.

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Last night, Jason posted an outline of the Shadowrun tabletop RPG books planned through the end of 2017 for the freelancers to see, and that the list is AH-MAH-ZING.

And this is just supplements/sourcebooks; it doesn’t include the e-books and novels. What I know of that is slightly more than you do (Names of a few titles), but … Y’all, I’m stoked.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (14:15:42/07-24-15)
 ;)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Novocrane on (18:36:30/07-24-15)
I started looking for news on that. ::) Then I realised; "for the freelancers to see" ... is that a new thing for you guys?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Crimsondude on (20:54:58/07-24-15)
I started looking for news on that. ::) Then I realised; "for the freelancers to see" ... is that a new thing for you guys?
No.

We get some sort of outline every year before Gen Con and the freelancer summit. However, it can and does change over time for various reasons. That said, I'm excited for a couple of reasons: (1) Personally, I haven't had the opportunity to write anything since 2012, but now I have time and other circumstances that afford me this opportunity, and (2) the last two years have been focused on releasing the Fifth Edition core expansion books, but now we're into the meat of the 5th Edition era as a setting with the rules in place or imminently in place. The only core expansion books left are the rigger and technomancer handbooks, but now we're going to focus on sourcebooks like the corporate handbook, the Seattle box set, and other products that build on the full rulesets and existing sourcebooks. And while I have to be vague, I'm rather excited about the plots and ideas that Shadowrun will be focusing on in those future books.

I definitely shouldn't mention this lest I stir up wild speculation, but one of the things I have been able to do besides run the tumblr is that I recently updated the Shadowrun wikia's list of AA-rated megacorporations (http://shadowrun.wikia.com/wiki/Shadowrun_corporations#AA_Megacorporations_.282077.29) because there is a plot sparked in Bloody Business (Earlier, actually, but it really gets going in BB) where that list will become relevant.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Darzil on (09:52:03/07-25-15)
(2) the last two years have been focused on releasing the Fifth Edition core expansion books, but now we're into the meat of the 5th Edition era as a setting with the rules in place or imminently in place. The only core expansion books left are the rigger and technomancer handbooks, but now we're going to focus on sourcebooks like the corporate handbook, the Seattle box set, and other products that build on the full rulesets and existing sourcebooks. And while I have to be vague, I'm rather excited about the plots and ideas that Shadowrun will be focusing on in those future books.
I hope that can be parsed that you're going to focus on sourcebooks as rigger and technomancer are on their way already, rather than that they are being put on hold whilst sourcebooks are worked on, which would be a major disappointment to many.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Wakshaani on (02:08:03/07-26-15)
They have to listen to me whine about no Rigger book on a regular basis. If it was shelved, there'd be this single high-pitched sound for, like, a week. I wanted it to be the first thing after the SR5 corebook even.

Trust me, the disappointment line would form to my left. :D
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Sendaz on (03:08:42/07-26-15)
Some say the approach of the Rigger Handbook is an Omen of the Coming of the Sixth. ;)

just teasing... vehicle rules have always been one of the more difficult points in the game and probably one of the most tweaked in house rules as well.

Do not envy the poor souls having to write that one.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Patrick Goodman on (12:30:03/07-27-15)
Do not envy the poor souls having to write that one.
Me, neither.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: MijRai on (10:56:27/07-29-15)
Provided they put vehicles where they should be on the speed chart, I think things will go peachy...
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Patrick Goodman on (11:26:36/07-29-15)
Well, they're welcome to that one. Too many rules for my writing tastes at the moment.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: The Dweller on (19:51:06/08-25-15)
I'm hoping we'll see a nice selection of classic vehicles alongside some fantastic new ones (with art included).  And plenty of drones.  Plus bring back the awesome vehicle modification chapter.  Gear modding is at an all time low so far in this edition.  It'd be nice for the rigger book to ratchet it back up.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: All4BigGuns on (20:54:29/08-25-15)
They need to also put out a book with comprehensive modification rules (not the light "rules" that we had in the previous edition and so far in this edition) for vehicles and weapons, as well as bring back the actual CREATION rules for vehicles and weapons that we had in 3rd.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Snake Eyes on (21:19:02/08-25-15)
They need to also put out a book with comprehensive modification rules (not the light "rules" that we had in the previous edition and so far in this edition) for vehicles and weapons, as well as bring back the actual CREATION rules for vehicles and weapons that we had in 3rd.
I agree, i would love to see possibly a whole book dedicated to this
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Wakshaani on (23:28:02/08-25-15)
They need to also put out a book with comprehensive modification rules (not the light "rules" that we had in the previous edition and so far in this edition) for vehicles and weapons, as well as bring back the actual CREATION rules for vehicles and weapons that we had in 3rd.
I agree, i would love to see possibly a whole book dedicated to this

While MODS are likely to be in Rigger 5, a ground-up CREATION is likely not in the cards. That said, and as a Car Wars fan, if it comes up, I'll be first in line to volunteer. :)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: All4BigGuns on (23:57:55/08-25-15)
They need to also put out a book with comprehensive modification rules (not the light "rules" that we had in the previous edition and so far in this edition) for vehicles and weapons, as well as bring back the actual CREATION rules for vehicles and weapons that we had in 3rd.
I agree, i would love to see possibly a whole book dedicated to this

While MODS are likely to be in Rigger 5, a ground-up CREATION is likely not in the cards. That said, and as a Car Wars fan, if it comes up, I'll be first in line to volunteer. :)

The lack of creation rules was a MAJOR weakness of the previous edition, not to mention that the modification rules weren't as comprehensive as they could have been (for weapons, armor and vehicles all in both cases).
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Wakshaani on (03:10:49/08-26-15)
The thinking is that most Shadowrunners don't have the facilities or teh resources to produce severalprototypes, then an eventual production run, of a brand new from nothing Thing, be it a gun, a drone, or, especially, a vehicle.

Not to say that those rules won't exist, but they're far more likely to get a PDF of their own than to take up space that could be dedicated to stuff more likely to be used by a larger swath of the audience.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: firebug on (03:18:30/08-26-15)
Not to say that those rules won't exist, but they're far more likely to get a PDF of their own than to take up space that could be dedicated to stuff more likely to be used by a larger swath of the audience.

You say that...  But most runners won't ever be fighting in space, either.  And yet Run & Gun had that whole section on space combat and space equipment.  And Data Trails picking to add rules for AI over more material for the already existing technomancers...  Yeah.

Something literally every rigger I've seen play would want, that being rules to make their own drones?  Or at least assemble them from base parts like one assembles a computer IRL...  There's not much excuse beyond "It was difficult to write it so we didn't." that would be reasonable.

There's rules to make your own designer drugs, rules for how to assemble a custom drone can't be unreasonable to ask.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Snake Eyes on (04:48:13/08-26-15)
They need to also put out a book with comprehensive modification rules (not the light "rules" that we had in the previous edition and so far in this edition) for vehicles and weapons, as well as bring back the actual CREATION rules for vehicles and weapons that we had in 3rd.
I agree, i would love to see possibly a whole book dedicated to this

While MODS are likely to be in Rigger 5, a ground-up CREATION is likely not in the cards. That said, and as a Car Wars fan, if it comes up, I'll be first in line to volunteer. :)
Well, it was a good thought ;)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (07:37:44/08-26-15)
The thinking is that most Shadowrunners don't have the facilities or teh resources to produce severalprototypes, then an eventual production run, of a brand new from nothing Thing, be it a gun, a drone, or, especially, a vehicle.

Not to say that those rules won't exist, but they're far more likely to get a PDF of their own than to take up space that could be dedicated to stuff more likely to be used by a larger swath of the audience.

If this was a PDF supplement that cut across the core books (RG, DT, CF, R5, etc,), I'd be VERY happy with that. ;D
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Wakshaani on (10:56:40/08-26-15)
The thinking is that most Shadowrunners don't have the facilities or teh resources to produce severalprototypes, then an eventual production run, of a brand new from nothing Thing, be it a gun, a drone, or, especially, a vehicle.

Not to say that those rules won't exist, but they're far more likely to get a PDF of their own than to take up space that could be dedicated to stuff more likely to be used by a larger swath of the audience.

If this was a PDF supplement that cut across the core books (RG, DT, CF, R5, etc,), I'd be VERY happy with that. ;D

I'd guess, and again this is just speculation so don't hold anyone to this, that you could do three PDFs... one each for vehicles and drones (likely the largest!), one for guns, and one for programs. Heck, one for magic too, really, so that you could construct your own spells. Eventually, they'd all come together in a printed book, akin to SR4's drones and guns and whatnot book whose name escapes me despite being on my shelf. D'oh.

Of course, if I was a tenth as productive as my *brain* was, you'd be complaining about the monthly PDF drops already. :)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (12:31:48/08-26-15)
I'd guess, and again this is just speculation so don't hold anyone to this, that you could do three PDFs... one each for vehicles and drones (likely the largest!), one for guns, and one for programs. Heck, one for magic too, really, so that you could construct your own spells. Eventually, they'd all come together in a printed book, akin to SR4's drones and guns and whatnot book whose name escapes me despite being on my shelf. D'oh.

Of course, if I was a tenth as productive as my *brain* was, you'd be complaining about the monthly PDF drops already. :)
Completely understand...but, would sign up for that pretty quick ;)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: All4BigGuns on (12:36:09/08-26-15)
The thinking is that most Shadowrunners don't have the facilities or teh resources to produce severalprototypes, then an eventual production run, of a brand new from nothing Thing, be it a gun, a drone, or, especially, a vehicle.

Whether the characters have the resources or facilities to do it themselves IC or not is irrelevant. The purpose of such rules is to create new things either from the GM's or players' imaginations or inspired by various sources for use in the game, but the creation itself is separate.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Shamie on (19:28:25/09-11-15)
Does anybody know if a second printing of the books are coming? I really want a physical copy of run & gun and the rest but with the amount of errata they need im thinking of just holding up for 2nd printing or a 6th/25th anniversary edition a this point.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (20:41:32/09-11-15)
I haven't heard about any planned reprints at this time.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: tytalan on (12:12:21/09-12-15)
Well I hate to disagree with some of you and I doubly hate to Agree with All4BigGuns "lol just kidding Guns" I've had more than one Rigger start the game with an A in resources "of course in 1-3 that was a 1000000 NY" and build themselves a work shop to build Drones.  Also someone talked about prototyping and building characters are not building production models it does not need to be prototyped twice than built the Riggers going build their toy than modify it until it does what they want.  We need at least drone building rules because most drones used by shadowrunners are going be built by the Rigger that uses them.  Also don't forget rules for Frames run and gun just almost touch on them.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (07:16:41/09-23-15)
It's been a while, but was able to ping Jason about current projects and upcoming releases:

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Hard Targets: A Deep Shadows book focused on wetwork, with some fun assassination-themed gear and a lot of information on Havana.

Sprawl Sites: Corporate Hideouts: 8 maps and a plot hook booklet focused on corporate-themed locations to drop into any sprawl.

Rigger 5: Just what it sounds like! And years before the end of Fifth Edition …

Market Panic: The Fifth Edition corporate book. Updates on the Big Ten, some AAs, and the general chaos the corps are going through.

On the e-book side, the latest book in the Sioux Nation series, focusing on the city of Butte, will hit layout later today. Then we have a Sioux Nation adventure called Counting Coup, and a non-Sioux book detailing the city of San Francisco.

Now that the con season is done, will be looking to try and get to a more regular cadence with these updates.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Lucean on (07:28:27/09-23-15)
There it is, isn't it? Rigger 5 gets mentioned. Good news :)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Csjarrat on (08:44:31/09-23-15)
Holy shit, rigger 5. Come to daddy!!!
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Sendaz on (11:22:48/09-23-15)
Alrighty, so anyone who had bet on dates in the Rigger Pool in the 2-5 year window before 6th, your still in the running.

Those of us with under 2 year, I was down for 2 weeks personally - well better luck next edition. ;)


And Market Panic should be nice, be interesting to see what new juicy gossip has surfaced.

Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Crimsondude on (14:52:49/09-23-15)
It's been a while, but was able to ping Jason about current projects and upcoming releases:

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Hard Targets: A Deep Shadows book focused on wetwork, with some fun assassination-themed gear and a lot of information on Havana.

Sprawl Sites: Corporate Hideouts: 8 maps and a plot hook booklet focused on corporate-themed locations to drop into any sprawl.

Rigger 5: Just what it sounds like! And years before the end of Fifth Edition …

Market Panic: The Fifth Edition corporate book. Updates on the Big Ten, some AAs, and the general chaos the corps are going through.

On the e-book side, the latest book in the Sioux Nation series, focusing on the city of Butte, will hit layout later today. Then we have a Sioux Nation adventure called Counting Coup, and a non-Sioux book detailing the city of San Francisco.

Now that the con season is done, will be looking to try and get to a more regular cadence with these updates.

Thanks, AJ!
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Beta on (17:39:24/09-23-15)
I'm really looking forward to Market Panic, oddly.  We've been playing the Boston: Lockdown campaign mostly as written, and at the end there is so incredibly much unresolved (for one: how the characters are ever to get out of the city, but assuming the group survives with brains intact and finds a solution to getting out, the next question is obviously "So what impact does all this horror have on the world?  Do corporate heads roll?

I'm going to be doing a little verbal soft-shoe routine of "things take time, corps do a lot of stuff behind the scenes, eventually it will be obvious .... " and the sooner that is ended (without me making up my own answers that are wildly different from whatever will be official), the more relieved I'll be. 

Yah, more fool me for actually running an official story-line, but now that they reeled me in ...
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Mr. Grey on (23:50:53/09-23-15)
Looks like a good line up. Market Panic is going to be great and Rigger 5 is more than welcome. as I'm originally from Montana, I am really excited to see what you did to the armpit of the old USA, Butte, America (we disowned her a long time ago ;D) and the Lady of the Rockies and the Berkley Pit.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Wakshaani on (23:58:20/09-23-15)
You have no idea how much I'm looking forwardto Rigger 5.

Market Panic should also be great, and then the other stuff's on top of that.

Woo!
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: deville on (00:50:10/09-25-15)
I'm starting to want a 5th ed. bestiary of some kind. I like having as many critters as possible in one big zoology type book to keep from having to flip through all the scenarios and lists in other books.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Crimsondude on (02:35:20/09-25-15)
In the meanwhile, there's always Running Wild for 4E.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (06:40:31/09-25-15)
As well, if you can read German, you could always pick up Parazoologie 2075 (http://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/128104/Shadowrun-Parazoologie-2075?manufacturers_id=3445) which Pegasus Press updated to SR5. To be honest, assuming you already have the Parazoology 4a releases, you could probably get away with lifting the stat lines and then using Google to translate any of the abilities that weren't obvious.

A compiled "paracritters" book would be awesome though. ;)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: The Tekwych on (09:50:17/09-25-15)
Actually a Parazoology digital series like SIF would be a great addition. Creatures of the plex. Creatures of the Pacific Northwest. Creatures of Central America. etc.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Sendaz on (11:14:14/09-25-15)
Aye, a Critters in Focus series would be nice in e-form so GM could pick up something if he is going to drop his runners in a region.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (11:23:36/09-25-15)
Critters in Focus

I quite like the sounds of that... :D
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: All4BigGuns on (11:30:57/09-25-15)
A 'bestiary' type source book really should be a hard copy supplement that is probably along the lines of the current core book in page count.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Sendaz on (11:48:29/09-25-15)
Critters in Focus

I quite like the sounds of that... :D

Cover art could have scope sights centered over some unusual critter charging down at the viewer. ;)

@All4BigGuns:  Personally I would LOVE one big core-sized bestiary from the get go, but I get the feeling CIF is more the style they would probably go forward on.
Of course, they could do a bit of both, where they start off with a variety of CIF series e-books and after a set period of time offer the bundle in a paperback/hardcover format containing all the series to date.

Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: All4BigGuns on (11:52:02/09-25-15)
The hard copy version I would get (even if I had to wait for tax refund time), the others, I would more than likely skip entirely.

A large hard copy could not only have updates on all of the critters ever produced for the game's various editions, but could also contain a MUCH wider variety of meta-human opposition.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: ShadowMaster on (15:07:28/09-25-15)
It's been a while, but was able to ping Jason about current projects and upcoming releases:

Quote
Hard Targets: A Deep Shadows book focused on wetwork, with some fun assassination-themed gear and a lot of information on Havana.

Sprawl Sites: Corporate Hideouts: 8 maps and a plot hook booklet focused on corporate-themed locations to drop into any sprawl.

Rigger 5: Just what it sounds like! And years before the end of Fifth Edition …

Market Panic: The Fifth Edition corporate book. Updates on the Big Ten, some AAs, and the general chaos the corps are going through.

On the e-book side, the latest book in the Sioux Nation series, focusing on the city of Butte, will hit layout later today. Then we have a Sioux Nation adventure called Counting Coup, and a non-Sioux book detailing the city of San Francisco.

Now that the con season is done, will be looking to try and get to a more regular cadence with these updates.

I notice that the Technomancer book is not in this list. One wonders if this means it's not happening or just even further in the future.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Patrick Goodman on (15:24:24/09-25-15)
@All4BigGuns:  Personally I would LOVE one big core-sized bestiary from the get go, but I get the feeling CIF is more the style they would probably go forward on.
Last I heard, there's supposed to be a dead-tree critter book...sometime. I've committed to write some things for it when it finally comes up in the rotation.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: The Tekwych on (15:26:56/09-25-15)
The hard copy version I would get (even if I had to wait for tax refund time), the others, I would more than likely skip entirely.

A large hard copy could not only have updates on all of the critters ever produced for the game's various editions, but could also contain a MUCH wider variety of meta-human opposition.

Actually a digital series could do both of those, and probably do it better. Consolidate and update known critters over a series of books that focus on an area, critter type, or something and they can be updated or changed on the fly without errata. If the series does well it could be compiled into a full size print book once a year or so. As an incentive to purchase the print book color, or additional art could be added only to that.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Sendaz on (15:37:55/09-25-15)
@All4BigGuns:  Personally I would LOVE one big core-sized bestiary from the get go, but I get the feeling CIF is more the style they would probably go forward on.
Last I heard, there's supposed to be a dead-tree critter book...sometime. I've committed to write some things for it when it finally comes up in the rotation.
Cool... killing trees AND more monsters.. who can ask for more? :)

I do like having solid books though they do tend to pile up after awhile.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Reaver on (18:01:30/09-25-15)
@All4BigGuns:  Personally I would LOVE one big core-sized bestiary from the get go, but I get the feeling CIF is more the style they would probably go forward on.
Last I heard, there's supposed to be a dead-tree critter book...sometime. I've committed to write some things for it when it finally comes up in the rotation.
Cool... killing trees AND more monsters.. who can ask for more? :)

I do like having solid books though they do tend to pile up after awhile.

That's only a problem when you move a lot. Like I have (5 times in 8 years.) But then I can literally say, I have a Ton of books :P
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Beta on (18:18:23/09-25-15)

That's only a problem when you move a lot. Like I have (5 times in 8 years.) But then I can literally say, I have a Ton of books :P

No, when you stay in one place for too long it become a problem too.  When you have put in all the book cases that really make sense, and the books start piling up on tables and floors anyway....  :o  (if you love books, and marry someone who loves books even more, you may or may not have children, but you will certainly have many, many, books to love .... )

On the general dead trees vs PDF issue -- personally for things with full page layout structure (like an illustration of a Barghest at the top of the page, with text and stats below, frex), I much prefer physical books.  I'm generally reading game pdfs on a laptop, where you can't see the whole page and have readable print at the same time, so you really lose the impact of the layout (I may not even loathe Street Grimoire so much if I'd bought the physical copy rather than the PDF, but hard to be certain).  On the other hand, something with many little bits of info that you might want to find quickly, PDF for the searchability. 
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: jim1701 on (21:01:51/09-25-15)
One thing I always liked about D&D was that in each new addition you can count on is the DM Handbook, the Player's Handbook and the Monster Manual. 
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (10:54:03/09-26-15)
One thing I always liked about D&D was that in each new addition you can count on is the DM Handbook, the Player's Handbook and the Monster Manual.

In fairness, SR has a similar setup...core + magic + weapons + matrix + options + rigger...wish that "critters" was also in there.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: firebug on (21:39:22/09-26-15)
One thing I always liked about D&D was that in each new addition you can count on is the DM Handbook, the Player's Handbook and the Monster Manual.

In fairness, SR has a similar setup...core + magic + weapons + matrix + options + rigger...wish that "critters" was also in there.

Plus, since so much of the game is the setting itself, you can still make use of old sourcebooks like Vice and Feral Cities from 4e (and from older editions, I just don't know any).
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Wakshaani on (01:38:25/09-27-15)
One thing I always liked about D&D was that in each new addition you can count on is the DM Handbook, the Player's Handbook and the Monster Manual.

In fairness, SR has a similar setup...core + magic + weapons + matrix + options + rigger...wish that "critters" was also in there.

LONG time ago (Like, '91!), I had an adventure called "Egg of the ... do *what* now?!" which featured the 'runners getting hired to leave the city, go into native territory, and help a guy bag some paracritters. Which was, you know, highly illegal poaching. I should dust that off some day and see if it's salvageable.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (09:35:09/09-27-15)
That sounds awesome Wakshaani! With all the recent issues surrounding sport hunting, could even touch on some current social issues ;)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Wakshaani on (10:11:30/09-27-15)
That sounds awesome Wakshaani! With all the recent issues surrounding sport hunting, could even touch on some current social issues ;)

"Salish officials were saddened today to announce the death of beloved park icon, Cecil the Phoenix. Asked for comment, Sarah BentTree said, 'Oh, no worry. He's fine now. Phoenix, right?.' All the same, rangers are now seeking the perpetrators of this senseless act of temporary murder for questioning."
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Patrick Goodman on (10:42:57/09-27-15)
Wak, you should really check out Elven Blood....
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Wakshaani on (13:42:23/09-27-15)
Wak, you should really check out Elven Blood....

i REALLY SHOULD! i'M BEHIND ON MY READING.hEY, cAPS lOCK IS ON. CRUD.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: All4BigGuns on (13:59:46/09-27-15)
One thing I always liked about D&D was that in each new addition you can count on is the DM Handbook, the Player's Handbook and the Monster Manual.

In fairness, SR has a similar setup...core + magic + weapons + matrix + options + rigger...wish that "critters" was also in there.

Plus, since so much of the game is the setting itself, you can still make use of old sourcebooks like Vice and Feral Cities from 4e (and from older editions, I just don't know any).

And this is yet another reason that the largest majority of "fluff" should be in separate sources. This way, those sources stay good throughout the life of the game even beyond the edition it's published during.

As to the sales issue, these sources can be reprinted as editions go on with updates on the various pieces of information, possibly even opening up 'special' compilations of several of these sources. Lord knows that many of the older setting-only books need updated versions, and this tendency of overloading rules supplements with fluffy bits is just, IMO, creating an excuse not to redo those.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: jim1701 on (12:13:55/09-28-15)
One thing I always liked about D&D was that in each new addition you can count on is the DM Handbook, the Player's Handbook and the Monster Manual.

In fairness, SR has a similar setup...core + magic + weapons + matrix + options + rigger...wish that "critters" was also in there.

Plus, since so much of the game is the setting itself, you can still make use of old sourcebooks like Vice and Feral Cities from 4e (and from older editions, I just don't know any).

If a conversion guide exists to update stats then my old books would be more useful in that regard. 
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Kincaid on (14:20:41/09-28-15)
There's a 4->5 conversion guide.  There might be a 3->4, I honestly don't know.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Crimsondude on (23:11:06/09-28-15)
There's a 4->5 conversion guide.  There might be a 3->4, I honestly don't know.
Of course there is.

http://cdn.shadowruntabletop.com/wp-content/uploads/Downloads/sr3_to_sr4.pdf?b979cc
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Reaver on (00:58:49/09-29-15)
Word of warning:

The 3 to 4 conversion hurts. A lot.

What with the total rework of attributes, pools, and skills....characters are almost worth just rebuilding into 4e instead of converting.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: DarkLloyd on (05:17:54/09-29-15)
Word of warning:

The 3 to 4 conversion hurts. A lot.

What with the total rework of attributes, pools, and skills....characters are almost worth just rebuilding into 4e instead of converting.

That is what I have done through the editions. Just take what karma they have and rebuild and just slide over cash and gear (if they have a compatible version) and cyber if any.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: reyjinn on (20:52:54/10-08-15)
It's been a while, but was able to ping Jason about current projects and upcoming releases:

Quote
Hard Targets: A Deep Shadows book focused on wetwork, with some fun assassination-themed gear and a lot of information on Havana.

Sprawl Sites: Corporate Hideouts: 8 maps and a plot hook booklet focused on corporate-themed locations to drop into any sprawl.

Rigger 5: Just what it sounds like! And years before the end of Fifth Edition …

Market Panic: The Fifth Edition corporate book. Updates on the Big Ten, some AAs, and the general chaos the corps are going through.

On the e-book side, the latest book in the Sioux Nation series, focusing on the city of Butte, will hit layout later today. Then we have a Sioux Nation adventure called Counting Coup, and a non-Sioux book detailing the city of San Francisco.

Now that the con season is done, will be looking to try and get to a more regular cadence with these updates.

I notice that the Technomancer book is not in this list. One wonders if this means it's not happening or just even further in the future.

Very sad about that, they are badly in need of a book of their own.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Backgammon on (08:29:22/10-10-15)
It's been a while, but was able to ping Jason about current projects and upcoming releases:

Quote
Hard Targets: A Deep Shadows book focused on wetwork, with some fun assassination-themed gear and a lot of information on Havana.

Sprawl Sites: Corporate Hideouts: 8 maps and a plot hook booklet focused on corporate-themed locations to drop into any sprawl.

Rigger 5: Just what it sounds like! And years before the end of Fifth Edition …

Market Panic: The Fifth Edition corporate book. Updates on the Big Ten, some AAs, and the general chaos the corps are going through.

On the e-book side, the latest book in the Sioux Nation series, focusing on the city of Butte, will hit layout later today. Then we have a Sioux Nation adventure called Counting Coup, and a non-Sioux book detailing the city of San Francisco.

Now that the con season is done, will be looking to try and get to a more regular cadence with these updates.

I notice that the Technomancer book is not in this list. One wonders if this means it's not happening or just even further in the future.

Very sad about that, they are badly in need of a book of their own.

Ebooks are not on the list at all. There are a shit ton of ebooks in development, none are listed here.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Dinendae on (08:38:21/10-10-15)
It's been a while, but was able to ping Jason about current projects and upcoming releases:

Quote
Hard Targets: A Deep Shadows book focused on wetwork, with some fun assassination-themed gear and a lot of information on Havana.

Sprawl Sites: Corporate Hideouts: 8 maps and a plot hook booklet focused on corporate-themed locations to drop into any sprawl.

Rigger 5: Just what it sounds like! And years before the end of Fifth Edition …

Market Panic: The Fifth Edition corporate book. Updates on the Big Ten, some AAs, and the general chaos the corps are going through.

On the e-book side, the latest book in the Sioux Nation series, focusing on the city of Butte, will hit layout later today. Then we have a Sioux Nation adventure called Counting Coup, and a non-Sioux book detailing the city of San Francisco.

Now that the con season is done, will be looking to try and get to a more regular cadence with these updates.

I notice that the Technomancer book is not in this list. One wonders if this means it's not happening or just even further in the future.

Very sad about that, they are badly in need of a book of their own.

Ebooks are not on the list at all. There are a shit ton of ebooks in development, none are listed here.

In the Incoming section (third page, the 'logging in' page), Virtual Tribes is listed; I believe this will be the TM one.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Sendaz on (08:42:38/10-10-15)

Ebooks are not on the list at all. There are a shit ton of ebooks in development, none are listed here.
Now is that a Long shit ton or Short shit ton? ;)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: reyjinn on (20:32:56/10-10-15)
Ebooks are not on the list at all. There are a shit ton of ebooks in development, none are listed here.

That makes me all sorts of happy inside :)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: bull30548 on (16:05:32/10-17-15)
Speaking of Ebooks DTRPG has Boundless Mercy up on it website for sale.  Woot!
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Sendaz on (19:35:59/10-17-15)
I see in the Incoming section on Boundless Mercy they mention this:

Welcome to the party. [Tag: City by Shadow: Metropole]

So the Metropole sourcebook is somewhere out there.

Should be interesting.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Csjarrat on (08:52:44/10-18-15)

Ebooks are not on the list at all. There are a shit ton of ebooks in development, none are listed here.
Now is that a Long shit ton or Short shit ton? ;)
Think it was an old imperial shit-tonne, so nearer the long end.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (13:34:31/10-18-15)
I see in the Incoming section on Boundless Mercy they mention this:

Welcome to the party. [Tag: City by Shadow: Metropole]

So the Metropole sourcebook is somewhere out there.

Should be interesting.

Nice catch...like the sounds of this.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Kirito99 on (14:02:18/10-18-15)
Since ending of convention season we have positive flood of shadowrun goodies. Keep up guys !
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Thanos007 on (20:25:58/10-21-15)
No word on High Caliber Ops, huh?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Gendo on (05:12:01/10-22-15)
I have a question. What is the Seattle gambit?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Sendaz on (05:51:43/10-22-15)
I have a question. What is the Seattle gambit?
It's an upcoming enhanced fiction piece, meaning its an original short story, but with game information like plot points, NPC stats, details of specific locations and sometimes new gear that you see in the story.

Or are you referring to the con?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Crimsondude on (13:28:59/10-22-15)
It's also the sequel to The Vladivostok Gauntlet, an earlier enhanced fiction e-book.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Patrick Goodman on (13:34:35/10-22-15)
Which means it's going to be brutal. And I mean that in the best possible way. :)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Backgammon on (19:20:21/10-22-15)
Someone called me the R rated Shadowrun writer once. I aim to not disappoint.
:)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Mr. Grey on (21:26:26/10-26-15)
So, if you writers were betting men, what do you think will be the next book to drop?

Also any rumblings on the 3rd Treaty of Denver being in any of the upcoming books?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Crimsondude on (04:57:47/10-27-15)
One of these (http://shadowrun.tumblr.com/upcoming)

BTW, I just updated the upcoming products page to include basic information about all of the products listed. I also included information for finding out more about specific products.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: bull30548 on (18:07:52/10-29-15)
Any chance there going to be images or more details on the Seattle Box set that according to on GMT magazine is coming out next month?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Crimsondude on (20:47:23/10-29-15)
It's not coming out next month.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Wakshaani on (23:45:47/10-29-15)
... If it did, then magic would *definately* be real. :)

Since ending of convention season we have positive flood of shadowrun goodies. Keep up guys !

Take a Chance should pop up soon as well. My first-ever module, where Bull stepped in and fixed, like, gobs of stuff because I'm awful. I'm listed as the sole writer but, honestly, he might have replaced as much as 25% of it to fix it up.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Crimsondude on (05:44:10/10-30-15)
... If it did, then magic would *definately* be real. :)

You want a box set? I can get you a box set. Believe me. There are ways. You don't wanna know about 'em.

Hell, I can get you a box set by the 30th of November—with nail polish.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Ragnarok on (21:22:21/10-30-15)
When will the TM book be scheduled for release?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Dinendae on (00:35:13/10-31-15)
When will the TM book be scheduled for release?

SoonTM!  ;D
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (09:24:15/10-31-15)
Take a Chance should pop up soon as well. My first-ever module, where Bull stepped in and fixed, like, gobs of stuff because I'm awful. I'm listed as the sole writer but, honestly, he might have replaced as much as 25% of it to fix it up.

Is this new Mission, or standalone adventure?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: bull30548 on (09:36:05/10-31-15)
Take a Chance should pop up soon as well. My first-ever module, where Bull stepped in and fixed, like, gobs of stuff because I'm awful. I'm listed as the sole writer but, honestly, he might have replaced as much as 25% of it to fix it up.

Is this new Mission, or standalone adventure?

It's a mission and it just dropped:
http://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/164509/Shadowrun-Missions-Take-a-Chance-0506?src=slider_view
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Wakshaani on (12:13:13/10-31-15)
That's the one! Bull had to transform a ton of NPCs into Missions ones, rewrite the bar scene in place, made teh ending much more upbeat than mine was... seriously, he worked his hindquarters off trying to make my effort into something quality.

Cover art's *gorgeous*, too.

All the props!
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: belaran on (12:24:17/10-31-15)
I could not google out a release date for Rigger 5. Is there (even a bullpark) date ? (like 2015 or 2016) ?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (13:37:05/10-31-15)
Great to see that Mission hit!!

Regarding Rigger 5, I would not expect it in 2015, though always a chance it could squeeze in right at the end. I don't have any formal insight on this one...just my opinion. ;)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Wakshaani on (20:03:52/10-31-15)
It'd be awful nice to get something for Xmas.

I'm not saying nuthin', I'm just sayin'.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Reaver on (00:49:33/11-01-15)
Maybe its just me....

But Rigger books make me nervious!
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Rift_0f_Bladz on (13:00:32/11-01-15)
From what I understand the pattern to be, I can fully understand.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Wakshaani on (14:07:23/11-01-15)
Fun factoid! While there are books called Rigger 2, Rigger 3, and Rigger 4, there was no 'Rigger 1'.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: DeathStrobe on (17:52:11/11-01-15)
Wasn't Rigger 1, Rigger Black Book?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: PiXeL01 on (19:07:40/11-01-15)
Indeed it was. And what a piece of work that was. My favorite book to date!
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Wakshaani on (06:57:36/11-02-15)
It was no Shadowbeat, but it was good!
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: All4BigGuns on (12:29:05/11-02-15)
Fun factoid! While there are books called Rigger 2, Rigger 3, and Rigger 4, there was no 'Rigger 1'.

Wouldn't 'Rigger 1' be the one that's titled 'Rigger's Black Book'?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Wakshaani on (15:12:49/11-02-15)
In a way, yes, but we've never had another Black Book.

I wouldn't mind changing that...
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Reaver on (15:17:12/11-02-15)
It was no Shadowbeat, but it was good!


Ahhh Shadowbeat....

I still referr back to it for Fluff even today.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: All4BigGuns on (23:11:33/11-02-15)
In a way, yes, but we've never had another Black Book.

I wouldn't mind changing that...

You could always try to get the powers that be to make Rigger 5 another Rigger's Black Book before it goes to layout and cover design.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Crimsondude on (23:44:03/11-02-15)
Nope. Too inefficient.

But if you want the style, there are a half-dozen e-books with 1 vehicle per page. Some were collected in Runner's Black Book 2073 and some in Runner's Black Book 2074.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: All4BigGuns on (10:40:54/11-03-15)
Nope. Too inefficient.

But if you want the style, there are a half-dozen e-books with 1 vehicle per page. Some were collected in Runner's Black Book 2073 and some in Runner's Black Book 2074.

Oh hell no, not like that. I was just talking about putting that as the title.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (07:07:39/11-13-15)
Short update on upcoming releases and product pipeline:

I think that should cover most of the winter/spring releases in queue. The summer schedule is still in flux...will be updating on that we move further along.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (09:42:11/11-13-15)
  • Customer service issues have been noted are being addressed; new processes and systems have been implemented and their impact is being reviewed. Will continue to provide updates on this. In the interim, please forward any open issues to me via PM and I'll get them logged.

You guys might want to go ahead and bump this off the list because there's no way to satisfy most modern consumers (especially among the gamer community). The fallacy of "the customer is always" right has gotten people far too spoiled and overly entitled.

We'll have to agree to disagree on this one. This issues I've been working on have nothing to do with "entitlement".
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: tytalan on (18:32:37/11-13-15)
I agree with AJ this is not about things like a couple days late.  Some people have waited many months after the product was in the stores to get their order with out any communication from customer service I am in retail and this is a major problem and I am glade that it is being addressed.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Sandorian on (18:37:26/11-13-15)
Still nothing new about the Technomancer-PDF?  :(
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Sendaz on (18:38:56/11-13-15)
Sweet, thanks for the update AJ

Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: ScytheKnight on (19:27:58/11-13-15)
Still nothing new about the Technomancer-PDF?  :(

Adding more sad-faces to this.

 :( :( :( :( :( :( :(
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Wakshaani on (21:44:57/11-13-15)
Still nothing new about the Technomancer-PDF?  :(

Turns out that there was an issue with the author asignments and it had to be shuffled around to find a new team, so, not on schedule. :(
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: ScytheKnight on (01:38:57/11-14-15)
Still nothing new about the Technomancer-PDF?  :(

Turns out that there was an issue with the author asignments and it had to be shuffled around to find a new team, so, not on schedule. :(

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y23/BruceTheBunny/GIFS/tumblr_lepqgaiOD31qd1gj8.gif)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Sandorian on (05:49:09/11-14-15)
Still nothing new about the Technomancer-PDF?  :(

Turns out that there was an issue with the author asignments and it had to be shuffled around to find a new team, so, not on schedule. :(

That's even worse then everything I expected.  :(

@ScytheKnight: Exactly.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Wakshaani on (08:43:45/11-14-15)
Still nothing new about the Technomancer-PDF?  :(

Turns out that there was an issue with the author asignments and it had to be shuffled around to find a new team, so, not on schedule. :(

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y23/BruceTheBunny/GIFS/tumblr_lepqgaiOD31qd1gj8.gif)

Trust me when I tell you that I feel your pain. :(
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Zweiblumen on (11:02:34/11-14-15)
Still nothing new about the Technomancer-PDF?  :(

Turns out that there was an issue with the author asignments and it had to be shuffled around to find a new team, so, not on schedule. :(

Not on schedule as in its missing deadlines, or not on schedule as in its no longer being scheduled to be done?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Kirito99 on (11:21:57/11-14-15)
Rigger 5 in proofreading, waiting for cover art !
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Wakshaani on (12:24:13/11-14-15)
Still nothing new about the Technomancer-PDF?  :(

Turns out that there was an issue with the author asignments and it had to be shuffled around to find a new team, so, not on schedule. :(

Not on schedule as in its missing deadlines, or not on schedule as in its no longer being scheduled to be done?

Sorry! Not on the *original* schedule. Essentially, with a new crew on it, teh clock had to be reset to 0 in terms of production. So, it should still *exist*, but probably be something like 6 months behind the original date. (6 months being a *very* rough guess on my part. I'm not sure what teh general lead-time on a product is. Not my department! I'm just a word processor for hire.)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Zweiblumen on (13:12:27/11-14-15)
Thanks Wakshaani!  So fall or winter of '16!  Let 'em know it would make a great bday gift for me in mid sept ;)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Wakshaani on (15:15:39/11-14-15)
Rigger 5 in proofreading, waiting for cover art !

I should really see about dropping *my* cover in here at some point.

You'll snicker so haaaaard.

(Five minutes of work in pencil, scanned in and offered up. Didn't win teh job, alas. *sniffle* One person even had arms! I mean ... that's progress, right?)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Kincaid on (16:35:43/11-14-15)
Wait, are you Rob Liefeld in real life?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Beta on (17:36:50/11-14-15)
Any idea what might be out by Christmas?   Be wise you know nothing brings fesrive cheer like a book full of death, double-dealing, and mayhem :D
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Wakshaani on (17:51:56/11-14-15)
Wait, are you Rob Liefeld in real life?

Rob's characters have arms! Sometimes three on the same side!
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: cantrip on (16:17:30/12-16-15)
Wait, are you Rob Liefeld in real life?

Rob's characters have arms! Sometimes three on the same side!

And tiny feet!  ::)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Sendaz on (17:08:28/12-17-15)
Spotted in the back of Rigger 5>  New SR fiction 'Undershadows' by Jason Hardy coming soon.

Set across the pond in jolly old London, Vaquita is a Runner and apparently a Headcase, carrying around a foreign personality in her head, but because it's British it's probably too polite to just take her over entirely and is doing a timeshare or something.
At least as long as the tea, finger sandwiches and crumpets hold out. ;)

Now she is off on a run with her team in the abandoned Angel Towers Arcology, a stripped down shell of its former glory now filled with the unsavoury dangerous sorts and secrets you would expect to find in this kind of place.
Think Renraku Arcology Lite, though don't get cocky in here as there is still a lot that can flatline you in short order, if you are lucky. 
Rumours of bugs and worse hanging out on some of the levels are still whispered among the locals, so death is not necessary the worst that can happen to a body here.
All that and Marmite too.

No seriously, f**k Marmite, that stuff is toxic. 
When the leading advertisement for this stuff focuses on how half of the people who try eating it vomit uncontrollably afterwards, you realize just how messed up this stuff is.
Any other product using this type of advertising would have been shut down, banned and burned to the ground with salt plowed into the ashes afterwards.
Imagine if they did those chips (crisps to the Brits reading this) ads with the 'low fat' alternative that turned out to give you diarrhea and the ad showed half the eater rushing off to the toilet like that scene from Bridemaids (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lw30B5R1Cig).
Yeah, not happening (thankfully)
But Marmite? That's like a badge of honor or something....

*ahem*

Anyway, we enjoyed Mr. Hardy's work in Hell on Water for it's bringing the setting to life and unusual characters (the main 'heroes' and baddies alike), even if we were not entirely sold on the story itself.
All it lacked in this regard as a setting piece was a map and some picture/prints like how the oldschool SR novels had it. Maybe this could be something to bring back in future novels please?
In any case, we look forward to seeing how he breathes new life into this corner of the Old Smoke.

Hopefully sans Marmite....



Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Crimsondude on (19:31:37/12-17-15)
Wait, are you Rob Liefeld in real life?


Rob's characters have arms! Sometimes three on the same side!

And tiny feet!  ::)

And a minimum of like 80 chiclet teeth.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Wakshaani on (20:03:21/12-17-15)
Dude. Are we doing a Rob thread?

Because I can *totally* do a Rob thread.

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1185172/warchild2.jpg

OH YEAH!
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Crimsondude on (03:21:20/12-18-15)
Brandon Graham poofs into being and makes this thread awesome again.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (06:42:00/12-18-15)
Final (likely) update this year... ;)

Products recently released and/or in the near term pipeline:
Other things in the works:
As well, there has been some preliminary talks about providing Missions content for Realm Works (http://www.wolflair.com/realmworks)...still VERY early in the discussions, but hopefully something that I'll be able to report out further on next year.

Finally, wanted to let people know that there is a new email address for BattleCorps customer service: customerservice@catalystgamelabs.com. This is part of the procedural changes that have been taking behind the scenes to address a number of the customer service issues that have been reported. I'll be posting this info in a separate thread (pinned), but please use this for any issues going forward.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Crimsondude on (06:56:35/12-18-15)
Damn, I'm good.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Shadowjack on (08:53:51/12-18-15)
Market Panic sounds nice, as does Howling Shadows. Can't wait to get both in my collection! And Rigger 5, obviously :D Gonna wait for dead tree release though, yep, I'm patient... kinda ;)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (09:24:39/12-18-15)
Have to say that I'm pretty stoked about Howling Shadows ;D

Now all we need is an e-book focusing on weapon mod/customization (quite liking the system in Rigger 5)... [my hope/wish, NOTHING official]
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Wakshaani on (09:35:28/12-18-15)
Hard Targets has soem gunmod stuff...
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Beta on (09:38:13/12-18-15)
Have to say that I'm pretty stoked about Howling Shadows ;D

Now all we need is an e-book focusing on weapon mod/customization (quite liking the system in Rigger 5)... [my hope/wish, NOTHING official]

I was just asking about where I could find more critter stats, to support the Shapechange spell .... so I'll be waiting eagerly!
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (18:22:34/12-18-15)
Hard Targets has soem gunmod stuff...

Well now...missed that...some weekend reading ahead ;)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Wakshaani on (14:29:49/12-20-15)
I was surprised to see it there myself, but quite happy that it exists! (I'm a sucker for tinkering.)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: bull30548 on (08:10:52/12-22-15)
AJ I think someone  mentioned  it but thought I would  just flat out ask: Is there going to be more gear/spell/gun/vehicle cards as was seen in the initial  release of the main rules and box sets associated  with the new books (Run & Gun, Street Grimoire, etc.)?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (10:25:24/12-22-15)
I have no idea ;D The only expansion I'm aware of is an additional set of cards to cover Gun H(e)aven 3.

That being said, no problems asking the question ;)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: falar on (11:48:02/12-22-15)
AJ I think someone  mentioned  it but thought I would  just flat out ask: Is there going to be more gear/spell/gun/vehicle cards as was seen in the initial  release of the main rules and box sets associated  with the new books (Run & Gun, Street Grimoire, etc.)?
I would seriously extract and hold ransom a member of the Catalyst team to get spell cards for all spells.

And Complex Form cards.

And Gun cards.

And Spirit cards.

Basically, I want cards for everything.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: k_night on (06:05:56/12-23-15)
Yeah, i want called shot cards  ;D
Oh wait i already made them myself :P
But i wouldnt mind some nice, shiny printed ones ;)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Crimsondude on (11:57:46/12-23-15)
http://shadowrun.tumblr.com/upcoming
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Dinendae on (00:22:47/12-26-15)
Ooh, something for Morocco! I am pleased to see additional areas being detailed out, in addition to the upcoming Seattle boxed set.  ;D
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Herr Brackhaus on (11:04:05/12-26-15)
Nothing on the Hong Kong book in collaboration with Harebrained Schemes?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: deville on (16:49:58/12-26-15)
Nothing on the Hong Kong book in collaboration with Harebrained Schemes?

Latest update from Harebrained on Dec. 21st:

Final touches are being made on the Hong Kong Sourcebook, eNovel and Annotated version of the Into the Shadows Anthology and we’ll be delivering them towards the end of January.

So, not much longer, but still too long LOL
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: ScytheKnight on (16:53:47/12-26-15)
Glad to see the Technomancer book is still on the radar...
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Crimsondude on (17:06:34/12-26-15)
Once other obligations are completed I'd love to actually work on the pile of ideas and pitches (including a novel) that I've been working on for the last three-four years.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (08:15:12/12-27-15)
Once other obligations are completed I'd love to actually work on the pile of ideas and pitches (including a novel) that I've been working on for the last three-four years.

I, for one, would love to see this.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Marzhin on (21:16:05/12-31-15)
Very curious about the Metrópole ebook. I hope it will give me some nice material to make the custom Santos campaign setting I've been working on (http://fondationdraco.fr/artifacts-rush-santos/) as close to canon as possible :)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Ragnarok on (09:09:35/01-22-16)
Glad to see the Technomancer book is still on the radar...

When will this be released?  I had a lot of hope for Data Trails, thinking that it was going to have decent Technomancer-related material that makes them such a nuisance to the Corps, but only to find out that DT was more for the non-Technomancer Matrix user....
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Backgammon on (08:55:56/01-28-16)
No ETA. More than a year from now is the most statistically likely answer, as that is how long a PDF book typically sits in editing queue for. That doesn't mean it'll be true for this book, but, that is merely the most likely time frame.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Dinendae on (00:17:36/01-30-16)
No ETA. More than a year from now is the most statistically likely answer, as that is how long a PDF book typically sits in editing queue for. That doesn't mean it'll be true for this book, but, that is merely the most likely time frame.

Also, as I recall, there were some scheduling conflicts with the original writer(s), so that has held it up a bit as well.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: HaikenEdge on (00:31:14/01-31-16)
Nothing on the Hong Kong book in collaboration with Harebrained Schemes?

Latest update from Harebrained on Dec. 21st:

Final touches are being made on the Hong Kong Sourcebook, eNovel and Annotated version of the Into the Shadows Anthology and we’ll be delivering them towards the end of January.

So, not much longer, but still too long LOL
So, tomorrow is the last day of January. What's the word?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: deville on (10:21:14/02-02-16)
Nothing on the Hong Kong book in collaboration with Harebrained Schemes?

Latest update from Harebrained on Dec. 21st:

Final touches are being made on the Hong Kong Sourcebook, eNovel and Annotated version of the Into the Shadows Anthology and we’ll be delivering them towards the end of January.

So, not much longer, but still too long LOL
So, tomorrow is the last day of January. What's the word?

Well, they haven't sent me any info on how to get them yet so I'm guessing the "towards the end of January" in their statement is not going to be before the end of January. We all continue tapping our feet, glancing at our watches and wait for the next pronouncement. My guess is they got busy with the DLC they are doing for the game and got behind schedule, just my guess. All I am is a backer, unfortunately, they don't call me about this stuff . . . which they would be totally welcomed to do LOL
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: HaikenEdge on (10:24:54/02-02-16)
Nothing on the Hong Kong book in collaboration with Harebrained Schemes?

Latest update from Harebrained on Dec. 21st:

Final touches are being made on the Hong Kong Sourcebook, eNovel and Annotated version of the Into the Shadows Anthology and we’ll be delivering them towards the end of January.

So, not much longer, but still too long LOL
So, tomorrow is the last day of January. What's the word?

Well, they haven't sent me any info on how to get them yet so I'm guessing the "towards the end of January" in their statement is not going to be before the end of January. We all continue tapping our feet, glancing at our watches and wait for the next pronouncement. My guess is they got busy with the DLC they are doing for the game and got behind schedule, just my guess. All I am is a backer, unfortunately, they don't call me about this stuff . . . which they would be totally welcomed to do LOL
Also a backer, but I don't really visit the HBS site or forum, only wait for KS updates, so I figured another person might know more than I.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: deville on (17:25:16/02-02-16)
Nothing on the Hong Kong book in collaboration with Harebrained Schemes?

Latest update from Harebrained on Dec. 21st:

Final touches are being made on the Hong Kong Sourcebook, eNovel and Annotated version of the Into the Shadows Anthology and we’ll be delivering them towards the end of January.

So, not much longer, but still too long LOL
So, tomorrow is the last day of January. What's the word?

Well, they haven't sent me any info on how to get them yet so I'm guessing the "towards the end of January" in their statement is not going to be before the end of January. We all continue tapping our feet, glancing at our watches and wait for the next pronouncement. My guess is they got busy with the DLC they are doing for the game and got behind schedule, just my guess. All I am is a backer, unfortunately, they don't call me about this stuff . . . which they would be totally welcomed to do LOL
Also a backer, but I don't really visit the HBS site or forum, only wait for KS updates, so I figured another person might know more than I.

I'm sure there is such a person, unfortunately you and I are going to have to wait to hear from them. I follow HBS on FB and they haven't posted anything about the KS rewards there or at the KS site since back in December. I hate waiting, really, I do . . .
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Herr Brackhaus on (13:16:46/02-05-16)
Just got an e-mail from Harebrained Schemes today that Shadowrun: Hong Kong's bonus campaign "Shadows of Hong Kong" is now available for download. Steam has the updated version listed as "Shadowrun: Hong Kong - Extended Edition".

The e-mail also states the following:
"We’re happy to let you know that you can now download the Shadowrun: Hong Kong e-Novel by Mel Odom ($25 Backers), and the annotated version of Into the Shadows ($100 Backers)."
And
"Your Shadowrun: Hong Kong Sourcebook ($75 Backers) still needs a smidge more love but we expect to make that available in the next week or so."
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Sendaz on (15:51:13/02-05-16)
Just downloaded mine, but will have to wait a few days to read.

just glancing at the annotated book looks fun.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: firebug on (05:36:00/02-06-16)
No ETA. More than a year from now is the most statistically likely answer, as that is how long a PDF book typically sits in editing queue for. That doesn't mean it'll be true for this book, but, that is merely the most likely time frame.

Christ, a year...  Sigh.  There's nobody to get annoyed at, but it really bothers me, considering how underwhelming the release of Data Trails was.  I love 5th edition, it sucks that my favorite archetype, the thing that really got me into 4th edition for the first time, isn't getting the support it needs.  And there's nothing anyone can really do about it, officially.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (10:52:18/02-06-16)
The sourcebook and e-novel are now available to download for backers.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (13:44:19/02-18-16)
It's been a while, so I pinged Jason for a bit of an update:
That coves most things...till next time  ;)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: odd on (14:25:02/02-18-16)
  • There is a "secret project" underway which is slated for a summer release. Before you ask, no, I don't have any more info. 8)

I feel like it's not, but i REALLY hope this is Sprawl Gangers or a complete trolls book  ;)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (15:22:29/02-18-16)
Pretty sure it's NOT Sprawl Gangers... :(
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Wakshaani on (15:38:06/02-18-16)
I *wish* it was Sprawl Gangers.

I continuely hunt for minis that are good for Shadowrun. I've been snagging drones of late, but while humans in suits, street punks, or suits are ultimately not THAT hard to find, Orks, Dwarves, and Elves are a nightmare. (And Trolls? Aside from the single one that Reaper has? Forgetaboutit.)

I need Sprawl Gangers to drop, just so I can loot the corpse. :)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Fizzygoo on (17:30:44/02-18-16)
Really can't wait for Market Panic. Excited and it makes me want to rush my game's timeline up to current date (but the PCs wouldn't be able to make rent without runs inbetween, hehe).

So excited for a Seattle Boxed set. Runner's Toolkit is just so beautifully laid out (imo) that I really want to see it applied to settings-meat :)

Critters book!

Looking forward to the rest as well. Thanks, as always, for the info, AJCarrington. :)

I continuely hunt for minis that are good for Shadowrun. I've been snagging drones of late, but while humans in suits, street punks, or suits are ultimately not THAT hard to find, Orks, Dwarves, and Elves are a nightmare. (And Trolls? Aside from the single one that Reaper has? Forgetaboutit.)

While not cost effective for "group" minis ($14.99 and up), for PCs, major bad guys, etc. Heroforge has worked (not perfectly, but has worked). It has 30mm scale and "2x" and "4x" scale. So a short "2x" scales well for a troll (but price jumps from $15 base to $60!, ug) but the shortest 30mm is still a tall dwarf. Here's my human PC (https://www.heroforge.com/load_config=430302) that I run and an attempt at a troll. (https://www.heroforge.com/load_config=430320)

It's at least added some fresh elements to the 10+ years old heap of old Ral Partha Shadowrun minis.

Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: odd on (17:56:41/02-18-16)
Those links didn't work for me (probably need to be logged in I'm guessing).

This makes me wonder about getting someone to make a 3d printer file and print it up for free. I think bright this up before but nothing came of it
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Fizzygoo on (18:07:38/02-18-16)
Those links didn't work for me (probably need to be logged in I'm guessing).

This makes me wonder about getting someone to make a 3d printer file and print it up for free. I think bright this up before but nothing came of it


The site doesn't work on mobile devices and some linux boxes (not sure Macs)...which is another issue (but double checked that the shared links do work on devices that the site works on and doesn't require log in). It would be nice to be able to edit and customize the 3D models while waiting for bus, at dentist, etc.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: adzling on (18:57:33/02-18-16)
Here's a link to my posting that consolidates all the many sources for Shadowrun suitable miniatures.
http://forums.shadowruntabletop.com/index.php?topic=15276.msg359273#msg359273

I also ran my main PC via heroforge, he turned out pretty good.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Fizzygoo on (19:08:48/02-18-16)
Here's a link to my posting that consolidates all the many sources for Shadowrun suitable miniatures.
http://forums.shadowruntabletop.com/index.php?topic=15276.msg359273#msg359273

I also ran my main PC via heroforge, he turned out pretty good.

Great list!
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: odd on (08:25:43/02-19-16)
Here's one on thingiverse if you have access to a 3d printer. (http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:963064)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Crimsondude on (18:26:45/02-19-16)
http://shop.prodosgames.com/en/home/251-shadowrun-chronicles-boston-lockdown-miniature-endition.html (http://shop.prodosgames.com/en/home/251-shadowrun-chronicles-boston-lockdown-miniature-endition.html)

Four pack of SR Chronicles minis. Ork street sam, elven decker, troll shaman w/ battle axe, and Jaguar Guard.

Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (22:54:43/02-19-16)
You can also pick it up in conjunction with the game. Cliffhanger posted the following on FB:

Quote
Anybody interested in some Shadowrun minis? Cliffhanger is working with our friends at Prodos Games to create the minis as backer rewards for our kickstarter (only 2 years delay in delivering them) and we made some extra, cause we thought folks might like them.
Now we are not allowed to sell minis directly, but we CAN sell you the cool Shadowrun Chronicles: Boston Lockdown Miniature Edition, consisting of a base version of the game (in form of Steam code) with which you will get the minis (worth 25 bucks) as merchandise and delivered to your door! (wink wink).
If you own the game already you can also get them from our backerkit store once it goes live (next week hopefully) without the steam code OR you can buy the Miniature Edition and give someone else the game as a gift...it IS a multiplayer game after all and our new Add-On, named "Missions" is due for release next week, so it is a great time to start a runner team.

Here is a mockup of them painted...they came out well I think.
http://shop.prodosgames.com/en/home/251-shadowrun-chronicles-boston-lockdown-miniature-endition.html (http://shop.prodosgames.com/en/home/251-shadowrun-chronicles-boston-lockdown-miniature-endition.html) is taking pre-orders now.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Cooky on (15:01:25/02-22-16)
Why not produce Shadowrun stand ups, kinda like Paizos Pathfinder Pawn sets, take up less space easier to produce could even sell in sets like matrix icons or ares security personnel 😈
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Sendaz on (15:56:47/02-22-16)
Actually they did once way back when in Shadowrun: DMZ Downtown Militarized Zone (http://boardgamegeek.com/images/boardgame/3476/shadowrun-dmz-downtown-militarized-zone), a little stand alone 3-D game using modified 1st ed rules with little cardboard popouts that fit into a slotted base, which you can still find on Amazon or Ebay though usually a tad overpriced.
[spoiler] (http://cf.geekdo-images.com/images/pic321510_md.jpg)[/spoiler]

Worked fine then and could again.

If you need something in the meantime, Interface Zero does a set of printable trifold cutouts (http://www.rpgnow.com/product/115409/Interface-Zero-20-Iconic-figure-flats).

While not exactly SR, its close enough to fill in some gaps with.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Wakshaani on (00:10:49/02-23-16)
I just want to take a second, here, to talk about the "Magic Crayon Moment". Joss Wheedon talks about this when, on Buffy teh Vampire Slayer, he'd written a script that called for a tarot deck that was different from the norm. When teh day of shooting drew near, the prop department came up and handed him the deck and it was sitting there in his hand, plucked from his head and made real as if he'd drawn it with a magical crayon.

I'm looking at layout files and seeing stuff I worked on and, even after a few years and a dozen books, it just gives me lil' tingles to see this. All formatted pretty and art inserted and it ... it's just kind of amazing.

Off topic I know, but I wante dto put that out there.

(Also, a big thanks to Jason for not pulling my arm off and beating me to death with it when I misread my contract and gave him far too many words. That's a whole lot more work for him and a boo boo on my part. Luckily, there were plenty of jokes that could be cut without hurting the overall flow. But still!)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Marzhin on (18:43:04/02-24-16)
So, what's this (http://catalystgamelabs.tumblr.com/post/139925660561/new-shadowrun-art) about? Any guesses? :)

Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: ScytheKnight on (19:49:55/02-24-16)
So, what's this (http://catalystgamelabs.tumblr.com/post/139925660561/new-shadowrun-art) about? Any guesses? :)

Probably to do with "secret project" mentioned earlier...

Isn't there like an 8th world mecha version called Shadowtech or something?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Wakshaani on (20:16:50/02-24-16)
Oh look, a non-disclosure agreement! I guess I'll just sit over on this side of it and wave. Hiiiii! *wavewavewave*
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Horsemen on (20:19:32/02-24-16)
So, what's this (http://catalystgamelabs.tumblr.com/post/139925660561/new-shadowrun-art) about? Any guesses? :)

Probably to do with "secret project" mentioned earlier...

Isn't there like an 8th world mecha version called Shadowtech or something?

Battlerun!!!  A totally awesome product!
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Dinendae on (02:39:12/02-25-16)
Oh look, a non-disclosure agreement! I guess I'll just sit over on this side of it and wave. Hiiiii! *wavewavewave*


 >:(



Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Sendaz on (03:00:31/02-25-16)
So, what's this (http://catalystgamelabs.tumblr.com/post/139925660561/new-shadowrun-art) about? Any guesses? :)
The problem I see is a matter of scale.

Either the BT side is staying out of the mechs or using something very early gen (Rigger 4 Warhammer?)

Otherwise most anything the runners use will just pretty much bounce off or do little more than scratch the paint job (1 pt damage) to a mech.
Course  maybe that will be the point, so the runners do the footwork and lure the mechs into a dragon's lair to let the two goliaths go at it. ;)

Edit: Waaaaaiiiit, is this a teaser that Rigger 6th edition is going to include mechs?!? ;)

Ok, maybe not...plus just imagine how many Mod Points would THAT have? :D

Oh look, a non-disclosure agreement! I guess I'll just sit over on this side of it and wave. Hiiiii! *wavewavewave*
Sendaz: Ah, but did you have anyone sign the non-piñata agreement?
*pulls out their multi-coloured piñata breaking stick*

Wakshaani: Non-piñata agreement? What is ---AIIIEEEEEEE

*Whack* 

*Biff*

*Poke*

Dinendae:  :o You know, that is not really going to fix anything?

Sendaz: Yes, but we feel better about it in any case. :)   Stick?

Dinendae: When in Rome  8)

*Smack*

*Note: No actual freelancer was hurt in the making of this post.*
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Dinendae on (03:09:30/02-25-16)
Oh look, a non-disclosure agreement! I guess I'll just sit over on this side of it and wave. Hiiiii! *wavewavewave*
Sendaz: Ah, but did you have anyone sign the non-piñata agreement?
*pulls out their multi-coloured piñata breaking stick*

Wakshaani: Non-piñata agreement? What is ---AIIIEEEEEEE

*Whack* 

*Biff*

*Poke*

Dinendae:  :o You know, that is not really going to fix anything?

Sendaz: Yes, but we feel better about it in any case. :)   Stick?

Dinendae: When in Rome  8)

*Smack*

*Note: No actual freelancer was hurt in the making of this post.*


In the spirit of the politcal season going on here in the U.S.A.: I'm Dinendae, and I approve this message!  ;D
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Reaver on (03:16:42/02-25-16)
Oh look, a non-disclosure agreement! I guess I'll just sit over on this side of it and wave. Hiiiii! *wavewavewave*
Sendaz: Ah, but did you have anyone sign the non-piñata agreement?
*pulls out their multi-coloured piñata breaking stick*

Wakshaani: Non-piñata agreement? What is ---AIIIEEEEEEE

*Whack* 

*Biff*

*Poke*

Dinendae:  :o You know, that is not really going to fix anything?

Sendaz: Yes, but we feel better about it in any case. :)   Stick?

Dinendae: When in Rome  8)

*Smack*

*Note: No actual freelancer was hurt in the making of this post.*


In the spirit of the politcal season going on here in the U.S.A.: I'm Dinendae, and I approve this message!  ;D

THAT'S VIOLENT!
THAT'S RACIST!!
THAT'S CULTURAL APPROPREATION!!
THAT HURT MY FEELINGS EVEN THOUGH I AM NOT MEXICIAN, OR EVEN MENTIONED!!!

#BAN_DINENDAE!!!


(Do I qualify for the fringe, fruit-cake, whiny-bitch opposition?)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: PiXeL01 on (05:20:10/02-25-16)
So Dunklezahn is coming back but has possessed a Warhammer type Mech?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Sendaz on (05:36:47/02-25-16)
So Dunklezahn is coming back but has possessed a Warhammer type Mech?

Suddenly gives new meaning to the term Draconis Combine.

It's not a faction, it's a battle cry (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CallingYourAttacks).

And would this mean Lofwyr might have a Gold Plated Atlas tucked away somewhere?
*suddenly has flashbacks to golden Glitterboys, now with a scaly serpent center*

brrrrrrrrr.....
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: ScytheKnight on (05:42:02/02-25-16)
Bug Spirits nesting in a mech hanger...
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (07:43:19/02-25-16)
My initial thoughts were some form of crossover...but then as I read the post a little more, wondering if this isn't some initiative that will benefit both BT and SR...ie re-releasing the original FASA novels, graphic novels, etc?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: DeathStrobe on (09:07:47/02-25-16)
I'm hoping for an overhaul of Battlecorp because that website is terrible.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Marzhin on (10:46:55/02-25-16)
My initial thoughts were some form of crossover...but then as I read the post a little more, wondering if this isn't some initiative that will benefit both BT and SR....

Yeah that's how I read it too.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Rift_0f_Bladz on (11:33:25/02-25-16)
SR gets BT style errata team?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Wakshaani on (13:36:59/02-25-16)
Don't with the mallet hoit!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kC6YPQY0_28
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Nightmare on (16:37:36/02-25-16)
So, what's this (http://catalystgamelabs.tumblr.com/post/139925660561/new-shadowrun-art) about? Any guesses? :)

Some reason it makes me think that Damon got hit with CFD in Boston......
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: PiXeL01 on (17:39:11/02-25-16)
My initial thoughts were some form of crossover...but then as I read the post a little more, wondering if this isn't some initiative that will benefit both BT and SR...ie re-releasing the original FASA novels, graphic novels, etc?

Were they to release the old novels I would buy every single SR one in a heart beat! I NEED to read Night's Pawn & Stripper Assassin again! And my 2XS is falling apart ...
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Herr Brackhaus on (17:43:11/02-25-16)
I NEED to read Night's Pawn & Stripper Assassin again! And my 2XS is falling apart ...
Great Freudian slip there ;)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: PiXeL01 on (20:43:52/02-25-16)
Striper? Blame autocorrect or somethingthingamajig
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Wakshaani on (21:32:04/02-25-16)
Stripper Assassin can be found in the Home Legends free download a couple of April Fools ago. :)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Herr Brackhaus on (03:10:21/02-26-16)
For reference: http://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/100988/Shadowrun-Street-Legends-Home-Edition
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: PiXeL01 on (04:55:39/02-26-16)
Apparently the King is so awesome his stats totally overtakes the female elf ninja stripper assassin from UCAS
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Wakshaani on (09:48:58/02-26-16)
Ah geeze, they never fixed that in the file? Dadblastit.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Rift_0f_Bladz on (10:52:12/02-26-16)
I NEED to read Night's Pawn & Stripper Assassin again! And my 2XS is falling apart ...
Great Freudian slip there ;)

My friend has Striper Assassin, but I read it as Stripper Assassin, she got a good laugh out of it, but so did I.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: PiXeL01 on (11:44:27/02-26-16)
I'm a Dane living in Japan teaching English. Everyday is a slip up bound to happen as I juggle at least three languages around on a daily basis. I'm surprised I have made it here for close to a decade now. So calling Striper a stripper (though not to her face) are the least of my worries.

Still I would like to hold her (books) in my hands again.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Reaver on (18:45:15/02-26-16)

Still I would like to hold her (books) in my hands again.

so that's what you kids called them these days....
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Dinendae on (22:03:44/02-26-16)

Still I would like to hold her (books) in my hands again.

so that's what you kids called them these days....


I would have expected iPads, or iPods, or i-something.  ;D
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Wakshaani on (23:00:25/02-26-16)
Huge ... tracts of land.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Mirikon on (23:16:30/02-26-16)
Huge ... tracts of land.
We have a winner.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Horsemen on (03:44:31/02-27-16)
Huge ... tracts of land.
We have a winner.

That explains the great land grabs several decades back.   ::)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: lokii on (11:56:03/02-27-16)
Still I would like to hold her (books) in my hands again.

so that's what you kids called them these days....

Yep, still lots of good stuff in the ol' paper cloud.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (14:51:42/03-01-16)
Well, just saw these pop up on DTRPG:

Shadowrun Legends: Choose Your Enemies Carefully (Secrets of Power, Vol. 2) (http://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/176257/Shadowrun-Legends-Choose-Your-Enemies-Carefully-Secrets-of-Power-Vol-2?src=slider_view)

Shadowrun Legends: Find Your Own Truth (Secrets of Power, Vol. 3) (http://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/176259/Shadowrun-Legends-Find-Your-Own-Truth-Secrets-of-Power-Vol-3?src=slider_view)

Suspect we'll see an announcement about "Shadowrun Legends" shortly :)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Horsemen on (15:54:24/03-01-16)
Well, just saw these pop up on DTRPG:

Shadowrun Legends: Choose Your Enemies Carefully (Secrets of Power, Vol. 2) (http://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/176257/Shadowrun-Legends-Choose-Your-Enemies-Carefully-Secrets-of-Power-Vol-2?src=slider_view)

Shadowrun Legends: Find Your Own Truth (Secrets of Power, Vol. 3) (http://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/176259/Shadowrun-Legends-Find-Your-Own-Truth-Secrets-of-Power-Vol-3?src=slider_view)

Suspect we'll see an announcement about "Shadowrun Legends" shortly :)

Awesome!!!  I'm going to have to read the originals again now!
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Sendaz on (16:34:28/03-01-16)
That is a very welcome return of the classics.

Now I can quit loaning out my really old beat up copy to the new guys. ;)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: PiXeL01 on (17:34:11/03-01-16)
My wallet will be so empty ... But I get to meet Striper and her unique ... Skill set again!
Wait, are they gonna be out in deadwood too?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (19:48:55/03-01-16)
No idea...though it would be great to see. Hopefully, the fact that they've commissioned new art is a positive sign.

Edit -- announcement is up...looks to be digital only.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Wakshaani on (23:13:28/03-01-16)
I don't think they have *book* rights, just *PDF* rights.

Digital stuff is tricky.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: DeathStrobe on (23:46:38/03-01-16)
I thought when they said the books will be hitting Amazon and Barnes and Noble, I assumed that meant new dead tree editions. But I guess it could have meant they'd hit Kindle and Nook.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: The Tekwych on (00:22:02/03-02-16)
The files at DrivethroughRPG include the ePub and mobi formats bundled together, so, yes, all 'major' digital formats.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Crimsondude on (01:18:22/03-02-16)
I thought when they said the books will be hitting Amazon and Barnes and Noble, I assumed that meant new dead tree editions. But I guess it could have meant they'd hit Kindle and Nook.

http://www.shadowruntabletop.com/legends-e-pub-fiction/ (http://www.shadowruntabletop.com/legends-e-pub-fiction/)

Quote
Amazon, Barnes & Noble, Kobo
 While each epub page below contains specific links to multiple e-pub venders, Amazon, Barnes & Noble and Kobo also carries all the e-pubs found on this page.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (10:22:37/03-17-16)
From Tumblr (http://catalystgamelabs.tumblr.com/post/141159887846/every-once-in-a-while-still-surprised-by-my-job), some minuiature masters being sent to China...

(http://56.media.tumblr.com/60e03277450cd45d2433884aff30018c/tumblr_o45e0kwb1K1siotmlo1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: DeathStrobe on (12:25:58/03-17-16)
Is that for Sprawl Gangers?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: odd on (12:58:30/03-17-16)
Is that for Sprawl Gangers?

Maaan, I hope so.  If they release it at GenCon, I might actually buy something at GenCon ;)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Crimsondude on (17:03:30/03-17-16)
Is that for Sprawl Gangers?

Those are Valiant Comics characters for that licensed tabletop RPG (http://www.catalystgamelabs.com/valiant/).
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: DeathStrobe on (17:55:06/03-17-16)
Is that for Sprawl Gangers?

Those are Valiant Comics characters for that licensed tabletop RPG (http://www.catalystgamelabs.com/valiant/).
Overwhelming sadness. :'(
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Wakshaani on (19:57:33/03-17-16)
Trust e brother, I feel your pain.

Mind you, I picked up a couple of Kickstarter games, just to get Shadowrun-ish minis, so.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: The Tekwych on (21:01:04/03-17-16)
But if they're using Valiant as the test pigeon then our miniature should be looking great in half the time.

Right.

Right?

Please!
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Crimsondude on (23:21:50/03-17-16)
But if they're using Valiant as the test pigeon then our miniature should be looking great in half the time.

Right.

Right?

Please!
Look at the rabbits.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: odd on (06:56:35/03-18-16)
But if they're using Valiant as the test pigeon then our miniature should be looking great in half the time.

Right.

Right?

Please!
Look at the rabbits.

The upcoming products page didn't mention sprawl gangers.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (16:03:50/03-18-16)
My bad guys...completely missed the names...thought that they were for Sprawl Gangers.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Crimsondude on (18:09:28/03-18-16)
But if they're using Valiant as the test pigeon then our miniature should be looking great in half the time.

Right.

Right?

Please!
Look at the rabbits.

The upcoming products page didn't mention sprawl gangers.

Yep. When I hear something, then I'll put it up.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: odd on (18:30:06/03-18-16)
Thanks, it's just sad to me cause if you asked what I was most excited about for year of shadowrun,
Sprawl gangers would have been my first two choices
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Crimsondude on (19:54:04/03-18-16)
Thanks, it's just sad to me cause if you asked what I was most excited about for year of shadowrun,
Sprawl gangers would have been my first two choices
You're not alone.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Wakshaani on (00:19:43/03-19-16)
Lord-a-mercy, are you not alone.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (11:37:26/03-30-16)
Street dates announced (http://www.catalystgamelabs.com/2016/03/30/march-and-april-street-dates/).

Rigger 5.0 - March 16, 2016

Shadowrun Beginner Box Set - April 27, 2016 (Reprint)

Shadowrun Gamemaster Screen - April 27, 2016 (Reprint w/ NEW graphic)
(http://cdn.catalystgamelabs.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/SR-GM-Screen_Reprint_Cover.jpg?35e004)

(http://40.media.tumblr.com/a180204de130d211ecde0daba505d895/tumblr_inline_o4uukjjc7B1s9c9hj_1280.jpg)

Serrated Edge: Denver Adventure 1 - April 27, 2016
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: PiXeL01 on (23:51:18/04-05-16)
Tempted to buy another screen just for that skyline!
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (09:23:35/04-07-16)
Yes...me too. ::)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Ragnarok on (09:04:02/04-29-16)
OOC, why would CGL publish another Seattle box set, when there is 4 previous iterations of the same city?  I get it that its a money issue (new players and all), but wouldn't it make more sense to just do an updated Seattle e-sourcebook that has a "This has happened in the 4 years (in-game universe) since the last Seattle book"...?

Especially when there's far more important books that need to be released, such as a dedicated Technomancer book.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Wakshaani on (11:53:05/04-29-16)
Because not everyone has the old books. There are always new players (one should hope! If there aren't, your game's in trouble!) and ever since D&D's 3.0 to 3.5 conversion there's a distaste of buying 'old stuff' instead of 'current stuff' ... fluff books are a better bet, since there aren't "useless pages of mechanics" in the mix, but you often find little nuggets scattered around, such as NPC stats, that don't quite work with the current edition.

So, the books lay out the main details, update some stuff, and generally serve as a guide for things that are important every time, like, say, Seattle.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Crimsondude on (12:14:06/04-29-16)
Every edition gets its own Seattle book.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: lokii on (05:15:16/04-30-16)
There is only four books (three books, one box set). So one of them didn't. :D
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Crimsondude on (11:16:07/04-30-16)
Seattle sourcebook came between 1st and 2nd. The reprinting was the 2E version.

I also agree that Runner Havens doesn't count. It's a fantastic Hong Kong book, but the rest is forgettable.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: lokii on (12:35:55/04-30-16)
I had an inkling there might be a technicality looming. :D

If you count Runner Havens that is still two books for one edition or I guess one for 4 and 4A each. But yes, I was thinking stand-alone.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Ragnarok on (20:50:52/05-01-16)
List (as compiled from Wikipedia) of Seattle books:

Seattle (1st Ed): FASA7201
New Seattle (3rd Ed): FASA7216, FanPro10657, FanPro25009
Runner Havens (4th Ed): FanPro26005
Seattle 2072 (4th Ed): CAT26240
Seattle Sprawl Boxed Set (5th Ed): CAT27110

If I had miscategorized which company did which sourcebook, I apologize.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (11:24:17/05-03-16)
A couple of upcoming titles I can share, though very little data at the moment:
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: ScytheKnight on (17:44:12/05-06-16)
  • Cutting Aces - a Deep Shadows sourcebook focused on cons, especially long con (Fall 2016)

Manditory music to listen to while reading. (https://youtu.be/_WxfjWnuEno)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Ragnarok on (19:52:20/05-07-16)
When will the Technomancer ebook come out, or... Are there any new developments on the Technomancer ebook?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (21:28:38/05-07-16)
I've got some other updates (which I'll be posting shortly), but nothing in regards to the technomancer book. :(
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Mirikon on (21:06:46/05-09-16)
The technomancer book will be to 5th edition what the rigger book was to earlier editions. Catalyst will announce 6th edition the week before the PDF hits DriveThru
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Dinendae on (03:24:31/05-10-16)
The technomancer book will be to 5th edition what the rigger book was to earlier editions. Catalyst will announce 6th edition the week before the PDF hits DriveThru


 :'(
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (09:14:08/05-12-16)
May Update

Origins 2016 - looking to have Market Panic on hand and hoping to have (early) copies of the Seattle Sprawl boxed set and Howling Shadows (which means we should see the digital release of HS very soon :)))

Shadowrun: Anarchy - a rules-lite approach to SR; smaller sized book (6x9) with ~200 pages. Approx 100 pages will be focused on characters and plot lines; rules should not be much more that 25-35%. Note that this is NOT a part of 5th edition...it represents an alternate way to play Shadowrun and gives people new options to consider. One of the design goals is to make "transferring" characters for SR5 to Anarchy fairly straightforward...this will allow them to use existing plot sourcebooks, campaign books, and adventures in their games.

Court of Shadows - this is going to give players a chance for long runs in the metaplanes around the Seelie Court to dive into the intrigue there. This gives us a chance to present a more high-fantasy, magic-focused setting with a Shadowrun twist. Intrigue, espionage, and the like will be emphasized over full-on combat, and there are some VERY imaginative minds working on ways to translate Shadowrun skills into this setting. :D

Moving back to SR5, the second Denver adventure will be coming before long, and the Deep Shadows book called Cutting Aces, focusing on con jobs, is coming in the fall.

SR Legends - the issues with getting the novels prepped for release have been sorted and you should expect to see that as part of the regular "Legends Tuesday"

Finally, with the tarot deck being developed and the Court of Shadows books, it's creating some new, interesting ways to play with magic, so look for an advanced magic sourcebook in 2017.

Well, that's it for this time...will come back with more paydata following the next couple of run 8)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Prime Mover on (09:32:37/05-12-16)
Sounds like some good stuff in our future. Remember an advanced magic book being talked about for 4th ed.  New concepts have always been a hallmark for Shadowrun, great to see some coming up.

AJ and the tumblr account are the best community reps for this edition and think both deserve some thanks.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Beta on (09:50:46/05-12-16)
Ummm, did you mean to type "SR6" everywhere that you did?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Mirikon on (10:12:32/05-12-16)
Ummm, did you mean to type "SR6" everywhere that you did?
Well, the Rigger book is already out, and TMs are still in the cell with Bubba the Love Troll, so... I'd give it 50/50 odds.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Herr Brackhaus on (10:14:31/05-12-16)
Shadowrun: Anarchy - a rules-lite approach to SR; smaller sized book (6x9) with ~200 pages. Approx 100 pages will be focused on characters and plot lines; rules should not be much more that 25-35%. Note that this is NOT a part of 6th edition...it represents an alternate way to play Shadowrun and gives people new options to consider. One of the design goals is to make "transferring" characters for SR6 to Anarchy fairly straightforward...this will allow them to use existing plot sourcebooks, campaign books, and adventures in their games.

Moving back to SR6, the second Denver adventure will be coming before long, and the Deep Shadows book called Cutting Aces, focusing on con jobs, is coming in the fall.
6th Edition Confirmed! :D
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: dragrubis on (10:23:26/05-12-16)
yup and Technomancers source book going in SOX...
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (12:23:58/05-12-16)
Ummm, did you mean to type "SR6" everywhere that you did?
Sixth World...Fifth Edition...sigh... :))

Thanks for the catch...have updated the post.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Rift_0f_Bladz on (13:20:57/05-12-16)
6th ed, more fluff, less crunch and even less errata!

Joking, AJ you still missed one 6th ed when talking about Anarchy.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Irn0rchid on (16:43:06/05-12-16)
Should we interpret your not mentioning Errata to mean that it will continue to be AWOL for the foreseeable future?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (17:25:58/05-12-16)
@Rift - thanks for the catch...fixed

@Irn - no formal update on errata, though I did ask again this morning.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Starglyte on (19:16:05/05-12-16)
Does the Cutting Aces book have a city setting?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: ScytheKnight on (21:00:08/05-12-16)
Finally, with the tarot deck being developed and the Court of Shadows books, it's creating some new, interesting ways to play with magic, so look for an advanced magic sourcebook in 2017.

This had SERIOUSLY best not be in place of the promised Street Grimoire errata which has mysteriously vanished with no word on what happened to it.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Kincaid on (21:49:09/05-12-16)
Different thing, no worries.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Irn0rchid on (21:51:42/05-12-16)
Well, at least not that particular worry. Plenty of others.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Crimsondude on (22:18:45/05-12-16)
Does the Cutting Aces book have a city setting?
Maybe. Maybe not.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Finstersang on (06:24:47/05-21-16)
What about the Technomancer Supp? Any news on that?

I mean, its almost a year since the infamous "Technomancer feedback for a new book!"-Thread has been started  :o
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (07:56:43/05-21-16)
Nothing that I have seen or heard.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Mirikon on (00:51:36/05-22-16)
Considering the 'care' given to TMs so far, I'd say it is safe to assume that it is DOA, or at least won't be seen until just before 6E.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Sendaz on (06:07:32/05-22-16)
Rumour has it all the work to date on the TM Handbook is being kept in an off-shore Legacy Red-12 Host located in Singapore.

The story goes that the Company in a fit of trying to get that SR feel back in all things went with a missile control-style passcode system which requires multiple parties to each input their biometrically-linked passcodes in unison to access the host.

Which would normally be fine if a little weird, but due to an unfortunate shakeup of the team roster thanks to a combination of sudden departures and in one case the successful extraction of certain personnel, they no longer have the necessary means of access in their possession.

Appealing to the shadowy host admins has proven fruitless because yada yada dark web security, the admins made it clear it's not their fault if the owners didn't retain control of their bio-passcodes, so they will not allow access without the requisite encoded information.

The Company has been seen meeting with several known white hat hackers, possibly seeking alternate ingress to the locked files.

As such somewhere in the south seas Lion City lies a virtual treasure trove just waiting for to be tapped. ;)



Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Wakshaani on (06:08:05/05-22-16)
There were some issues with it early in the life cycle. That put it behind the curve by a bit, sadly. Those issues have been resolved, so, it should be chugging along. I know *I'm* looking forward to it!
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Ragnarok on (19:27:55/05-22-16)
There were some issues with it early in the life cycle. That put it behind the curve by a bit, sadly. Those issues have been resolved, so, it should be chugging along. I know *I'm* looking forward to it!

Were you referring to the TM supplement?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (19:49:00/05-22-16)
Yes, I believe he was.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Mirikon on (09:53:03/05-23-16)
Hopefully it will include a complete rewrite of TMs, so they actually can do their fragging job, instead of being "Hey guys, let's translate a mage directly to the matrix! Sure, they don't work the same, but who cares?"
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Dinendae on (11:15:59/05-23-16)
Hopefully it will include a complete rewrite of TMs, so they actually can do their fragging job, instead of being "Hey guys, let's translate a mage directly to the matrix! Sure, they don't work the same, but who cares?"


According to the Reddit chat about it someone posted a link to, it looks like it's probably going to be a year out for the TM book. However, it looks like they're doing a complete overhaul of the TM, especially the Fade costs.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Sendaz on (14:42:31/05-23-16)
Now this is very interesting as I wasn't aware Yue was back on the project.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Shadowrun/comments/4hcufz/are_there_any_news_on_the_technomancer_pdf/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Shadowrun/comments/4kjyfq/list_of_upcoming_books_and_technomancer/?



Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Crimsondude on (01:27:05/05-25-16)
Now this is very interesting as I wasn't aware Yue was back on the project.

Oh, you mean Amy.

For a second I thought, "Who's Yue?"
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Sendaz on (02:25:34/05-25-16)
Now this is very interesting as I wasn't aware Yue was back on the project.

Oh, you mean Amy.

For a second I thought, "Who's Yue?"
Indeed, meant Ms Veeres since she had posted here on the forum as Yue, even though she did disclose her name in said post, but wasn't sure of the best etiquette when referring to her so opted for just the forum handle. :)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: carmachu on (18:02:16/05-31-16)
From Tumblr (http://catalystgamelabs.tumblr.com/post/141159887846/every-once-in-a-while-still-surprised-by-my-job), some minuiature masters being sent to China...

(http://56.media.tumblr.com/60e03277450cd45d2433884aff30018c/tumblr_o45e0kwb1K1siotmlo1_1280.jpg)
Miniatures? Finally!
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (19:23:51/05-31-16)
These are for the Valiant card game (promo minis, I believe).
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Ragnarok on (02:31:57/08-10-16)
Sorry to beat a dead horse to death, but is there anything new on the TM book yet?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Dinendae on (02:51:17/08-10-16)
Considering that the last word was back around May, and they were looking about a year out for it, I doubt it. Hopefully it's still on track for Spring 2017.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Ragnarok on (23:21:20/09-12-16)
Bump for any new word on the TM book.   ;D
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (12:35:43/09-14-16)
Nothing yet. I should be getting a general update out in the next day or two (unfortunately, nothing on the TM source book).
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (07:05:05/09-16-16)
General update follows:
Lots of stuff coming... ;D
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Kincaid on (08:55:40/09-16-16)
I'm so psyched for Istanbul coverage.  That's always been a favorite runner hub for me.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: adzling on (10:59:50/09-16-16)
ditto, Istanbul is an awesome city IRL and an awesome setting for runners.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: odd on (12:19:20/09-16-16)
I assume nothing about sprawl gangers?  Nothing on this list particularly grabs my interest.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Marzhin on (16:23:30/09-16-16)
Thanks for the update, AJ :)

in process is a campaign book that will tie in to the tarot

Only the tarot or Court of Shadows as well?

Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (18:53:37/09-16-16)
Agree about Istanbul...really interested to see what they do here.

Nothing re Sprawl Gangers :(

Campaign book is separate from Court of Shadows, but suspect that the tarot rules would be usable in that setting.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Ragnarok on (21:13:47/09-16-16)
I would like to run by an idea for a future series of e-books for SR5:

An updated series of timeline/gazetter ebook in the vein of the 6th World Almanac.....   Could this be possible?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (07:57:53/09-17-16)
I would like to run by an idea for a future series of e-books for SR5:

An updated series of timeline/gazetter ebook in the vein of the 6th World Almanac.....   Could this be possible?
As a fan, my response is YES! :)

However, I'd suggest that you drop a note (email or PM) directly to Jason Hardy to discuss this concept in more detail.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Ragnarok on (09:37:35/09-17-16)
I would like to run by an idea for a future series of e-books for SR5:

An updated series of timeline/gazetter ebook in the vein of the 6th World Almanac.....   Could this be possible?
As a fan, my response is YES! :)

However, I'd suggest that you drop a note (email or PM) directly to Jason Hardy to discuss this concept in more detail.

Thanks, I will!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Imladir on (20:12:09/09-28-16)
Nothing about the TM book?
Is it still even planned?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (07:17:39/09-29-16)
I believe it is still in the works, but have no specific details.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Fabe on (11:02:44/10-01-16)
 With errata finally being dealt with I think I can understand why the TM book might be delayed. some problems\ might be dealt with then removing the need to fix them in the TM book.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Mirikon on (16:16:05/10-02-16)
With errata finally being dealt with I think I can understand why the TM book might be delayed. some problems\ might be dealt with then removing the need to fix them in the TM book.

No, the problems with TMs need more. Unless you count 'ground up rewrite' as 'errata'.

Honestly? The TM rules read like whoever wrote them hated that they were even in the game, but didn't have authority to retcon them so they went out to make them noticeably and demonstratively weaker than all other matrix users. They went from being the 'Swiss Army Knives of the Matrix' to having to hyperspecialize along a single character path to have a hope of being even half as effective as a decker, and a whole stream was basically told to f*ck off until they Submerged. In 4E, TMs had the tactical advantage, but tended to be glass cannons, especially when they took Matrix damage directly to their brain. Deckers, on the other hand, had the strategic advantage, being more reliable and harder to kill, while still being quite effective at their job. On the rigging side of things, TMs could be great single vehicle/drone riggers, but actual Riggers were better at multiple drones, swarms, and were, again, harder to kill since they didn't take damage to their brain in the Matrix. There were legit pros and cons to each side, which made things more of an option.

Fast forward to 5E, and we start with Priorities. TMs need good numbers in Resonance, their mental ability scores, and skills. Which means anything other than a Human (or maybe Elf) TM is going to be severely gimped in other areas, and probably starting with jack-all in resources, to boot. Of course, this isn't a purely TM problem, as it is one of the hallmarks of the Priority system in actively discouraging people to try things like, say, a Troll Mage or a Dwarf Technomancer, and so on. Things that were easily possible in 4E are extremely difficult in 5E due to actively seeking to limit and even stripping out customization altogether in many places (Weapon mods, anyone?). But while a Mage really only needs two attributes (Magic and their casting stat, with a decent third in Willpower), a TM needs all mental attributes at high levels to even think of doing more than a hyperspecialist role in the Matrix. And they need all the same skills as a normal hacker, plus new ones. And then you have complex forms, and so on. And heaven forbid that they actually want to buy anything like a fake SIN, or a lifestyle above Squatter!

In 4E, TMs were the swiss army knives of the Matrix. In 5E, unless you're playing it as a pet class focusing on sprites, you don't even break even against a decker, and you have no adaptability, at all.

As I've said before, TMs this edition got thrown in the cell with Bubba the Love Troll, and sandpaper for lube.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Reaver on (16:41:10/10-02-16)
Hate to say it, but you pretty much nailed it on the head Mirikon.

I have always had this feeling the TMs were designed by someone at FanPro (the company that started SR4e) that really had "Transhumanist" vision for SR. (Which came through in many Fanpro books, then lessened a lot after Catalyst took over).

But, now Catalyst was stuck. They had an archtype set up in such a way that didn't really fit with their vision or their view of the game world....

And along comes 5e.... and they make TMs the way they want... but thanks both rule changes and character creation rules, TMs are now broken and too weak to be viable and need a lot of work....

Almost to the point that I almost feel we may see them write out TMs entirely... As I am not sure how they can save TMs without basically rewriting the entire matrix or character rules.
(But I hope they can do something!)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Mirikon on (03:02:07/10-04-16)
Honestly? At this point I've pretty much given up on 5E, and hoping that 6E comes soon.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Reaver on (03:18:05/10-04-16)
Honestly? At this point I've pretty much given up on 5E, and hoping that 6E comes soon.

oh God no.....

I can just see that going like DnD4e into DND next....  With there 50 books released then almost rendered useless 5 years later....


HTOH, bite the bullet now, get a fleshed out, solid updated product, Call it SR 5.5!

Kind of like the MASSIVE rewrite of DnD 3e that lead to DnD 3.5 where they fixed a lot of REALLY broken shit! Such as the HARM spell....
(In DnD 3.0, it was a touch attack, had no saving throw, and reduced you to 1d4 hp....Great Wyrm Dragons around the realm sudden exploded into gooey bits when Priests gained that spell. They changed it to touch attack, 10 HP damage per level, and had a saving throw.)




hmmmm... kind of liking that idea.... take 5e call it a dry run, Fix the major errors and release 5.5e... Kind of like how the SR4a was an update for SR4....

(anyone remember the problems in the 4e book and all the changes that came into play in the 4eA book?)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Marzhin on (05:03:39/10-04-16)
HTOH, bite the bullet now, get a fleshed out, solid updated product, Call it SR 5.5!

Or "Shadowrun 5 - 30th Anniversary Edition" a.k.a. SR5A. And release it for Christmas 2018, just in time for the actual anniversary of the game (1989 - 2019) ;)

One thing is sure: I would probably not buy a 6th edition that would invalidate all my SR5 books -- I have no space left on my shelves.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Reaver on (06:44:29/10-04-16)
HTOH, bite the bullet now, get a fleshed out, solid updated product, Call it SR 5.5!

Or "Shadowrun 5 - 30th Anniversary Edition" a.k.a. SR5A. And release it for Christmas 2018, just in time for the actual anniversary of the game (1989 - 2019) ;)

One thing is sure: I would probably not buy a 6th edition that would invalidate all my SR5 books -- I have no space left on my shelves.

BUY A NEW SHELF!!!

(I hear you, I have 2 8 foot book shelves loaded with game books from various games.. its a bitch to pack up and move every few years)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Mr. Grey on (08:09:32/10-04-16)
HTOH, bite the bullet now, get a fleshed out, solid updated product, Call it SR 5.5!

Or "Shadowrun 5 - 30th Anniversary Edition" a.k.a. SR5A. And release it for Christmas 2018, just in time for the actual anniversary of the game (1989 - 2019) ;)

One thing is sure: I would probably not buy a 6th edition that would invalidate all my SR5 books -- I have no space left on my shelves.

BUY A NEW SHELF!!!

(I hear you, I have 2 8 foot book shelves loaded with game books from various games.. its a bitch to pack up and move every few years)

Oh that word! It pains me so! After moving four times in under a year, the thought of all those books just pains me.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Reaver on (08:10:41/10-04-16)
HTOH, bite the bullet now, get a fleshed out, solid updated product, Call it SR 5.5!

Or "Shadowrun 5 - 30th Anniversary Edition" a.k.a. SR5A. And release it for Christmas 2018, just in time for the actual anniversary of the game (1989 - 2019) ;)

One thing is sure: I would probably not buy a 6th edition that would invalidate all my SR5 books -- I have no space left on my shelves.

BUY A NEW SHELF!!!

(I hear you, I have 2 8 foot book shelves loaded with game books from various games.. its a bitch to pack up and move every few years)

Oh that word! It pains me so! After moving four times in under a year, the thought of all those books just pains me.

And I thought I moved a lot!
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: EiraHaexa on (12:47:04/10-04-16)
HTOH, bite the bullet now, get a fleshed out, solid updated product, Call it SR 5.5!

Or "Shadowrun 5 - 30th Anniversary Edition" a.k.a. SR5A. And release it for Christmas 2018, just in time for the actual anniversary of the game (1989 - 2019) ;)

One thing is sure: I would probably not buy a 6th edition that would invalidate all my SR5 books -- I have no space left on my shelves.

BUY A NEW SHELF!!!

(I hear you, I have 2 8 foot book shelves loaded with game books from various games.. its a bitch to pack up and move every few years)

Oh that word! It pains me so! After moving four times in under a year, the thought of all those books just pains me.

And I thought I moved a lot!

So did I, and I had to sell off all of my books last time I moved. *sobs*
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Patrick Goodman on (13:36:49/10-04-16)
The technomancer book is in progress. I know this because people working on it have sent me errata suggestions for both Core and Data Trails, some of which should be going live soon, and some more of which is still under discussion. It's not a lot of stuff, but when it hits, it should help.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Reaver on (14:56:37/10-04-16)
Well that's great to know Patrick, thank you!

And if they have forwarded errata for you, that tells me they are trying to fix the poor state TMs are currently in.....

Maybe there is hope.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Sendaz on (15:45:14/10-04-16)
Thanks Patrick.

that is good news and look forward to seeing what they turn out :)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Fabe on (20:19:33/10-04-16)
The technomancer book is in progress. I know this because people working on it have sent me errata suggestions for both Core and Data Trails, some of which should be going live soon, and some more of which is still under discussion. It's not a lot of stuff, but when it hits, it should help.

This what I was talking about when I said I can understand why the TM  book might be delayed . Fix the problems with the current stuff first then once that is done use it as a foundation  to put out a book full of new stuff.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Reaver on (20:55:25/10-04-16)
Glad you can recgognize that Fabe.
There are few who seem to ask every other day when the book is getting released.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Ragnarok on (23:55:14/10-04-16)
Glad you can recgognize that Fabe.
There are few who seem to ask every other day when the book is getting released.

Well, if Data Trails had done a better job of correcting and strengthening TMs (in regards to correcting the apparent nerfing of them), then we wouldn't have to hope for the crunch of the TM book.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Reaver on (00:03:11/10-05-16)
There is nothing wrong with wanting a product, or wanting the occasional possible updaye on a product. But, again, asking every other day for an update....

How can I put this..... makes the person come across as a petulant 5 year old standing in a line with his mother, going:

"Can I have this?Can I have this?Can I have this?Can I have this?Can I have this?Can I have this?Can I have this?Can I have this?Can I have this?Can I have this?Can I have this?Can I have this?Can I have this?"


Personally I don't want see AJ pull the mom card and go:
"NO! I told you 'no' 3 times, if I have to tell you again, you're going over my knee!!"
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Ragnarok on (13:57:51/10-24-16)
Is there anywhere that lists the month that each of the upcoming releases?  I think it would go a loooong way to ease our worries as to when each would be published.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Backgammon on (14:50:45/10-24-16)
No. CGL is a microscopic company subject to many forces that affect desired publication dates. Any date suggested would be missed by a little or a lot 100% of the time. Books come out when they come out, that's all.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (06:51:19/10-25-16)
If you're not doing so already, it might be an idea to follow the CGL Tumblr account. Most major releases tend to get promoted as they start nearing release. It doesn't cover everything in process, but is one of your better options. As well, every couple of months, I try to post an update as to what is coming up...speaking of which, should probably start working on the next one. ;)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Marzhin on (07:12:29/10-25-16)
If someone could update the list here it would also be great IMO: http://shadowrun.tumblr.com/upcoming
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Shadowjack on (18:00:32/11-03-16)
Any word on the physical copy release of Anarchy? I am very excited about that!
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Marzhin on (06:12:43/11-24-16)
Any word on the physical copy release of Anarchy? I am very excited about that!

November 30th :) ==> http://www.catalystgamelabs.com/2016/11/23/fall-street-dates/

I don't usually buy limited editions but I must say Anarchy's LE looks great (http://catalystgamelabs.tumblr.com/post/153538626771/mmmmanarchy-goodness-just-fell-out-of-the-mail)... simple and elegant.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (08:41:15/11-24-16)
Yes, yes they do ;D
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Carmody on (08:52:09/11-24-16)
On one hand it clearly looks great, on the other hand it looks to... clean for a book named Anarchy  :P
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Crimsondude on (16:59:53/11-24-16)
If someone could update the list here it would also be great IMO: http://shadowrun.tumblr.com/upcoming

I may ask to get admin control back now that I'm back in the writing pool.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Shadowjack on (22:50:08/11-24-16)
@Marzhin I saw that, pretty excited! :)

@Crimsondude Which freelancer are you anyway? Perhaps you wrote Crimson? :D
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Crimsondude on (02:36:55/11-25-16)
@Crimsondude Which freelancer are you anyway? Perhaps you wrote Crimson? :D
No, that's Kevin Czarnecki
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: theKernel on (22:51:01/11-30-16)
I messaged the woman working on the TM book on reddit and she couldn't give me a date but said that it is happening still.  Also I wish catalyst could see how badly the community wants the TM book to be a priority (not just because I am playing a TM and love their lore).
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (07:30:23/12-01-16)
Also I wish catalyst could see how badly the community wants the TM book to be a priority (not just because I am playing a TM and love their lore).

In fairness, I think the guys are well aware of the gap and the desire to get this book done.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Crimsondude on (12:32:26/12-01-16)
Also I wish catalyst could see how badly the community wants the TM book to be a priority (not just because I am playing a TM and love their lore).

In fairness, I think the guys are well aware of the gap and the desire to get this book done.

Yeah. You all aren't alone in the desire to see it completed.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: theKernel on (13:21:29/12-01-16)
Also I wish catalyst could see how badly the community wants the TM book to be a priority (not just because I am playing a TM and love their lore).

In fairness, I think the guys are well aware of the gap and the desire to get this book done.

Yeah. You all aren't alone in the desire to see it completed.
Also I wish catalyst could see how badly the community wants the TM book to be a priority (not just because I am playing a TM and love their lore).

In fairness, I think the guys are well aware of the gap and the desire to get this book done.

I hope I didn't make it seem like we were the only ones it just seemed like they are busy focusing on source books and adventures when rules should be their focus imho first.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Marzhin on (13:37:09/12-01-16)
I hope I didn't make it seem like we were the only ones it just seemed like they are busy focusing on source books and adventures when rules should be their focus imho first.

It's not necessarily the same people who are working on the rule parts and the lore parts, though.
Also, I believe the community would rather wait a little longer to have a polished TM book than a rushed, buggy one.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Wakshaani on (17:04:10/12-02-16)
I messaged the woman working on the TM book on reddit and she couldn't give me a date but said that it is happening still.  Also I wish catalyst could see how badly the community wants the TM book to be a priority (not just because I am playing a TM and love their lore).

Trust me, we're well aware.

(I needs it, Baggins!)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Ragnarok on (12:06:14/12-03-16)
Trust me, TM players will consider the potential TM book "My Precious," regardless of any bugs in it.....  Sorry, I had to add a Gollum reference.  ;D
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: theKernel on (15:43:13/12-03-16)
Trust me, TM players will consider the potential TM book "My Precious," regardless of any bugs in it.....  Sorry, I had to add a Gollum reference.  ;D

Drek...just the idea is my precious
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Marzhin on (05:40:30/12-09-16)
I was wondering... are there any plans from Catalyst to translate some of the German supplements in English, even as eBooks?

(http://fondationdraco.fr/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/SR5_DatapulsADL.jpg)

The Datapuls ADL book seems pretty sweet, and apparently has quite a few connections to the story told in Dragonfall (http://ademeyn.tumblr.com/post/152093796944/right-so-the-datapuls-adl-german-sourcebook-is) (making the video game at least partly canon I guess*)

I'm sure lots of players would be interested to read it if it was not only available in German ^^

*I've also noticed one of the adventures in Anarchy is a "sequel" to some of the events featured in Shadowrun : Hong Kong.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (06:23:55/12-09-16)
Not that I'm aware of, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: wraith on (06:58:32/01-09-17)
Hate to say it, but you pretty much nailed it on the head Mirikon.

I have always had this feeling the TMs were designed by someone at FanPro (the company that started SR4e) that really had "Transhumanist" vision for SR. (Which came through in many Fanpro books, then lessened a lot after Catalyst took over).

But, now Catalyst was stuck. They had an archtype set up in such a way that didn't really fit with their vision or their view of the game world....

And along comes 5e.... and they make TMs the way they want... but thanks both rule changes and character creation rules, TMs are now broken and too weak to be viable and need a lot of work....

Almost to the point that I almost feel we may see them write out TMs entirely... As I am not sure how they can save TMs without basically rewriting the entire matrix or character rules.
(But I hope they can do something!)

There's a simpler explanation, Reaver, and one I think is much more likely given the content released since SR5 Core.  None of this has been given sufficient editing nor remotely thorough playtesting.  This, and Catalyst as a company's unwillingness to do so, is rather amply demonstrated by the fact that the errata is being run by an unpaid fan, including the errata for Anarchy, which just released.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (12:03:59/01-09-17)
There's a simpler explanation, Reaver, and one I think is much more likely given the content released since SR5 Core.  None of this has been given sufficient editing nor remotely thorough playtesting.  This, and Catalyst as a company's unwillingness to do so, is rather amply demonstrated by the fact that the errata is being run by an unpaid fan, including the errata for Anarchy, which just released.

You seem to be mixing up different issues...editing =/= playtesting =/= errata. Also, Patrick is not an "unpaid fan", though I have no idea the arrangement he has with CGL in regards to tackling the errata project (and, IMHO, it's none of my business).
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Reaver on (13:51:34/01-09-17)
Trying to say the products are not playtested is a dead end Wraith. We have no idea about the level of playtesting..... And playtesting doesn't make for a perfect product...

Look at Pathfinder. They will happily tell you that over "50,000 man hours" went into playtesting the product, yet there are some wonderfully broken things in pathfinder (not to mention editing mistakes).

D&D next will tell you "We spent 8 months fan playtesting" their product.... yet its STILL a horrible, broken, unplayed mess. Not to mention errata and editing issues.


And face it Wraith, you nor I have a lense into the inner workings of Catalyst. We have no idea what issues they are dealing with behind closed doors. Nor will we have any idea as they are not obligated to tell us. All we can do is speculate and guess.

But well..... whiners gonna whine. Say what you want, but if you look around (and I mean REALLY LOOK AROUND!!) You'll see the death of printed media everywhere, in all forms.

Journalistic professionalism is all but dead. Grammer bit the ghost a long time ago. Fact checking is a lost art even in Academia.

We live in an age of buzzfeed, Salon, and Gawker style writing and reporting. And if you want to blame someone for it, look to your fellow man and his 5 second attention span and "I know everything, thus I don't need to learn anything" attitude that seems to be very prevailant in the under 30 crowd....
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Ragnarok on (15:15:30/01-17-17)
Any new news on the TM book?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Novocrane on (16:36:57/01-17-17)
playtesting
Regardless of the quantity that went into any given product, it's notable when sufficient quality did not. No?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Reaver on (17:11:15/01-17-17)
playtesting
Regardless of the quantity that went into any given product, it's notable when sufficient quality did not. No?

'Quality' is such an ill defined term, its practically meaningless beyond a personal level. Where one person sees quality, an other sees shite.

Take Apple and their products. I know many people that rave about Apple and the Ipad and Macbooks and Iphones.... but every SINGLE ONE I have tried has been a total and utter disappointment. (There is a bear in the Great Bear Rainforest that got my last Ipad as in total frustration, I threw the $700 device out of the Helicopter!).

Some people think that Buzzfeed is a great website: Many others call it a trashfilled, click-bait wait of time.

Remember, "One man's treasure is another man's trash".

So please, define 'Quality' for us in terms of you where expecting, and then we can have a conversation, but simply saying 'Quality' in and of itself tells us nothing....


But that also seems to be the sign of the times as well these days.... no one "builds" anything, but everyone wants to smash shit down.

People who can't program whine 'games don't do what I want'
People who can't write whine 'this book isn't engaging'
People who don't understand economics say 'the Government should give me this for free'
People who don't build say 'A house shouldn't cost that much'.


Everyone knows everything, without knowing anything....

Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: dragrubis on (05:14:15/01-18-17)
playtesting
Regardless of the quantity that went into any given product, it's notable when sufficient quality did not. No?
'Quality' is such an ill defined term, its practically meaningless beyond a personal level. Where one person sees quality, an other sees shite.
*snip*
Everyone knows everything, without knowing anything....

Ok Quality? when you see Playtesting just before, personaly i think something like playability, balancing, this kind of stuff, it's good for me, if TM's become playable again... (with some nuyen options too)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Mirikon on (13:14:33/01-19-17)
I'm wondering if there are any plans for an update to Sixth World Almanac. While there isn't any crunch in it, I've found it a really great resource.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Crimsondude on (14:27:58/01-19-17)
I wonder what if anything might be in the works for the 30th anniversary.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Prime Mover on (16:13:24/01-19-17)
Curious if we have any more info on the Book of the Lost anywhere?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Crimsondude on (18:06:42/01-19-17)
I don't know if it's been mentioned anywhere.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: KatoHearts on (18:17:37/01-19-17)
Quote
The Bastard, upright. A man in clown makeup stands in a broken skyraker window over another man on the verge of a long plummet. Near the clown’s hand, a white rose. Opportunity, adventure, but also mania and frenzy. 404, upright. A woman crouches on the edge of a rooftop, holding a white rose. In the distance is the image of a woman in a red dress. Destruction, failure, collapse. Queen of coins. A woman in a red dress, lounging amidst luxury. She has material wealth but emptiness of soul. Upright, she is opulence, magnificent. Inverse is suspense, fear.

Opportunity and adventure abounds. Destruction and failure loom. Will the result be magnificence— or fear?

Book of the Lost takes the intricate art of the Sixth World Tarot and turns it into stories and campaigns for Shadowrun players. Full of plot hooks and adventure seeds, this book is a treasure trove of ideas, mysteries, and enigmas that can make memorable games. Open it and explore knowledge that had been lost but is now, here, rediscovered. And waiting for you.

Book of the Lost is for use with Shadowrun, Fifth Edition, and can easily be used with Shadowrun: Anarchy with minor NPC adjustments.
The above is the only info I can find on it. Apparently there's also a book called Forbidden Arcana too but the only info I have is that it's more expensive than Book of the Lost. There's also some kind of card game called Zero Day, all I know is it's hacking based.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Prime Mover on (19:16:13/01-19-17)
I knew there was tie in for tarot coming, hadn't heard name connected to it before.  Think Arcana book has been mentioned before.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (20:16:24/01-19-17)
Pulled the following from some notes I got from Jason a while back...don't think I ever posted them  :-[

Forbidden Arcana, an advanced book of magic rules. It has new traditions rules, new ways of doing blood magic, some Mastery rules to provide advanced ways to specialize in magic, and more.

Zero Day in the works. It's a two-player hacker duel to see who can hit the most sensitive targets and collect the most valuable data. Should go to print around the end of the year.

Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: firebug on (20:26:12/01-19-17)
More magic stuff, while TM sits dead at the bottom of a dumpster.  Why the huge focus on giving magic so many options?  It already has way more than 4th with the High Arts, Alchemy, and new metamagics.  "Frustrating" doesn't describe how depressing it is and the levels and layers of negative implications.

Oh well...  I'm sure it'll be really cool and make people wanna play a magician even more.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Prime Mover on (22:25:11/01-19-17)
Curious if we'll see return of Cyberzombie with new magic info.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Marzhin on (07:45:48/01-20-17)
Thanks for the info AJCarrington :)

Zero Day in the works. It's a two-player hacker duel to see who can hit the most sensitive targets and collect the most valuable data. Should go to print around the end of the year.

So if I understand correctly that's not a supplement for SR5 but a new spin-off game?

edit: just noticed KatoHearts' post that already answers my question :)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: odd on (08:11:45/01-20-17)
I just want Sprawl Gangers :(
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (08:19:54/01-20-17)
I just want Sprawl Gangers :(

Yeah...agree 100%.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: The Tekwych on (10:47:58/01-20-17)
I just want Sprawl Gangers :(

Yeah...agree 100%.
+1, and Hostile Takeover
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: KatoHearts on (18:14:00/01-20-17)
Quote
Description

Shadowrun: Sprawl Gangers is a competitive, skirmish-level miniatures game for 2 players, with everything needed to game right in the box. Players will take on the task of building gangs (Ancients, Halloweeners, First Nation, and so on) following specific point values of a scenario, and modifying the various miniatures based upon what new resources (weapons/gear/magic/tech) a player gained through previous games. Gangs won't simply fight for the sake of fighting, but will actively build their turfs and resources. Among other things, this will allow for the hiring of the exact right shadowrunner when they need that ace in the hole. All this adds up to the experience of watching your gang grow and expand through exciting play across a swath of games.

Shadowrun: Sprawl Gangers will be sculpted and manufactured in conjunction with CoolMiniOrNot.

Here's what I found on Sprawl Gangers, feels newish to me but I'm sure it's old info though
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: The Tekwych on (23:52:12/01-20-17)
That was the original PR for the game. CMON stepped away from the project over a year ago and two other mixtures options have been tried tat I am aware of with both issues arising in each case that stopped the partnership. I never saw a design studio listed for Hostile Takeover.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: KatoHearts on (03:10:08/01-21-17)
Well I thought he mentioned CMON here (http://www.hiddengrid.com/hiddegrid-classic-ep-26-interview-jason-hardy/) but I was wrong.

ON THE OTHER HAND

Ork/Troll sourcebook.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (08:50:56/01-21-17)
I've not heard of CMON being in the mix, but they might be an interesting partner. They definite have a solid track record with producing miniature games an promotion via KS. I hope they focus on the quality of the miniatures...I'd love multi-part HIPS as that would provide modeling/building options for years to come. Given the recent success of Kingdom Death, there is a solid market for this kind of media (though I'm well aware it is not for everyone).

+1 for a troll/ork sourcebook...wouldn't mind something for dwarves and elves either ;)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Ragnarok on (10:22:07/01-21-17)
I'm wondering if there are any plans for an update to Sixth World Almanac. While there isn't any crunch in it, I've found it a really great resource.

I'd like to see this!
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: The Tekwych on (21:51:45/01-21-17)
If they go back to the old format of Seattle Sourcebook, Sixth World Almanac, and Native American Nations then I am in all the way. If we get a book like the new Seattle box set well...
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Wakshaani on (13:42:34/01-22-17)
If they go back to the old format of Seattle Sourcebook, Sixth World Almanac, and Native American Nations then I am in all the way. If we get a book like the new Seattle box set well...

I, for one, would love to see an updated Almanac.

But I'm curious to see what you did NOT like about the Seattle box set. I've been a tad idle and not hunting info down like I should and I hadn't really heard anything on that front. (But we might want to take it to another thread.)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Mirikon on (20:37:48/01-22-17)
Another magic book, and TMs are still getting thrown in the cell with Bubba the Love Troll and sandpaper for lube.

*sigh*


Anyways, other books I'd love to see updated:
Sixth World Almanac
Threats
Loose Alliances
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Reaver on (22:22:09/01-22-17)
Another magic book, and TMs are still getting thrown in the cell with Bubba the Love Troll and sandpaper for lube.

*sigh*


Anyways, other books I'd love to see updated:
Sixth World Almanac
Threats
Loose Alliances

I've said it since TMs came out:

They are the Redheaded Stepchildren of SR.... and We all know what happens to redheaded Stepchildren....
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: MijRai on (23:59:47/01-22-17)
At this point in time I don't particularly care about technomancers anymore.  Until Catalyst gets out the rules-hammer and fixes them, I can't even see the Errata team being able to do enough to make them viable. 
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Imladir on (02:59:22/01-26-17)
Come on... Sure, TMs have problems. Sure, they aren't as good as a decker.
But to go so far as saying that they're not viable... They are (especially with the Fade adjustment). They just need to be played differently than deckers, that's all.

The only thing that could make them not viable is if you're only interested in the mechanics side of things, and not the lore and the specificities of TMs.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: dragrubis on (09:12:02/01-26-17)
The only things that make them unplayable is that they can't do the first role of the matrix specialist : protect the group from spiders without using a lot of sprites...
You have a peace of junk because they can't event build a bio-pan or a bio-lan...

They cannot protect themself efficiently, because they cannot switch they're attribute to boost there firewall if they don't have this thread use. Even if they have it that make them unplayable because will using it they took a -2 on everything! (without focus like things...)

And you cannot have a technomancer with good abilties at hacking and good ability at something else, where a decker can become a decent something else with some ware at the beginning... And still be good at his how job.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Imladir on (15:32:37/01-26-17)
1) You take exceptional attribute (Willpower), and you start at 7
2) You put 5 in logic & intuition

You already have pretty decent Living Persona. Your attack rating probably won't be great, but it works. And, you still can have 4 in reaction & intution, 3 in body and 2 in strength. Which leaves some room to be decent at something else.

Then, after some time, you buy a cerebral booster 3 and a cerebellum booster 2. You can reach (as a human) 9 logic, 8 intuition, 7 willpower (and 6 charisma if you really want that attack score). All of that, for the cost of 43 karma needed to raise your Resonance back to 6, including a submersion. And that's not even taking drugs into account, a simple Psyche will then get you to 10 logic, 9 intuition. You're not likely to find a deck that good anytime soon. Even the Excalibur is at 9/8/7/6. It takes some time and karma, but a TM can beat that.

So while I'll agree that not being able to have a PAN can be bothersome (and I wont go so far as saying it's the first role of the hacker in a group...), that having to take some bioware to be efficient kinda goes against the lore, you still have a lot of possibilities to be good at hacking and at other stuff. Not as straightforward as the decker, but it exists. And the technomancer has access to stuff the decker can only dream about (like the Resonance Realms for instance, some of the CF, and the sprites of course).

So no, TM are perfectible, but they already are a valid option. Just not as brainless as a decker can be, you have to think, anticipate and plan how you do things, that's all.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: daclown on (16:32:08/01-29-17)
Zero Day in the works. It's a two-player hacker duel to see who can hit the most sensitive targets and collect the most valuable data. Should go to print around the end of the year.

Saw this in a preview magazine:

"SHADOWRUN: ZERO DAY CARD GAME
You are the contagion. You are the fear. You are the thing that makes the megacorporations of the world tremble. In the world of Shadowrun, the Corps thinks they have everyone and everything under their thumb, but they don’t have you - the hacker in the Matrix, the fly in the ointment. You know where the world’s deepest secrets are buried - and you have the weapons needed to fight to bring them out! Hack your way through corporate countermeasures in Zero Day, a fast-and-furious, two-player card game set in the Shadowrun universe. Scheduled to ship in April 2017."
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: dragrubis on (08:17:51/02-08-17)
1) You take exceptional attribute (Willpower), and you start at 7
2) You put 5 in logic & intuition

You already have pretty decent Living Persona. Your attack rating probably won't be great, but it works. And, you still can have 4 in reaction & intution, 3 in body and 2 in strength. Which leaves some room to be decent at something else.

Then, after some time, you buy a cerebral booster 3 and a cerebellum booster 2. You can reach (as a human) 9 logic, 8 intuition, 7 willpower (and 6 charisma if you really want that attack score). All of that, for the cost of 43 karma needed to raise your Resonance back to 6, including a submersion. And that's not even taking drugs into account, a simple Psyche will then get you to 10 logic, 9 intuition. You're not likely to find a deck that good anytime soon. Even the Excalibur is at 9/8/7/6. It takes some time and karma, but a TM can beat that.

So while I'll agree that not being able to have a PAN can be bothersome (and I wont go so far as saying it's the first role of the hacker in a group...), that having to take some bioware to be efficient kinda goes against the lore, you still have a lot of possibilities to be good at hacking and at other stuff. Not as straightforward as the decker, but it exists. And the technomancer has access to stuff the decker can only dream about (like the Resonance Realms for instance, some of the CF, and the sprites of course).

So no, TM are perfectible, but they already are a valid option. Just not as brainless as a decker can be, you have to think, anticipate and plan how you do things, that's all.
You forget about 2 things
decks can be realign on a other set of attribute, doing like you say you will have a fixed attributes for the technomancers...
But the very bad thing is about matrix program the excalibur can be pushed to 11/10/9/8 with 1k nuyen (or less) using 4 programs
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: GeLrIrToCrH on (22:01:05/02-08-17)
I noticed Denver adventure #2 is now available in print......I wonder if Cutting Aces will be following soon....has anyone else noticed Cutting Aces does not seem to be in the Catalyst store? I'm also curious about the Corporate Hideouts map pack & Hostile Takeover....I thought it was almost done, what happened? Anyway, mini-rant over.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (09:16:48/02-09-17)
Not a lot of updates from my end at this time...will see what I can dig up.

There is a reprint of Run Faster in process...updated PDFs are listed on CGL and DTRPG.

Note - there might be an issue getting the new PDF if you purchased previously from CGL...I have it listed in My Downloads, but the link is to the First Printing. Not sure if systematic of unique to my account; will advise.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Sir_Prometheus on (09:59:58/02-20-17)
This would be less of an issue if you guys just put out an errata sheet
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Patrick Goodman on (10:44:39/02-20-17)
This would be less of an issue if you guys just put out an errata sheet
If you're not happy with how things are going, you could step up, you know.

I'm working on it. It's slower than Christmas with all the Real Life that I've been dealing with. I will put my family ahead of everyone and everything else. Behind them, I will put projects I can submit an invoice for ahead of most everything else.

You've gotten more errata in the last six months than in the rest of 5E's production life, and more will be coming soon as I get my rhythm back. I'm sorry that isn't enough for you.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Mirikon on (13:33:41/02-20-17)
The errata coming out is great, and we thank you for stepping up, Patrick.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Sir_Prometheus on (22:09:37/02-20-17)
This would be less of an issue if you guys just put out an errata sheet
If you're not happy with how things are going, you could step up, you know.

I'm working on it. It's slower than Christmas with all the Real Life that I've been dealing with. I will put my family ahead of everyone and everything else. Behind them, I will put projects I can submit an invoice for ahead of most everything else.

You've gotten more errata in the last six months than in the rest of 5E's production life, and more will be coming soon as I get my rhythm back. I'm sorry that isn't enough for you.

It wasn't really in reference to your work, the fact that you've been doing it is great.  But it is also notably not considered "official" in a lot of ways.  I have heard the shapeshifter changes (regen, silver, dual natured) didn't make it into the second printing, indicating it's not official. 

But here's the real thing, and it has nothing to do with you at all, Patrick:  If catalyst had the changes determined to make a second printing, then they had the information handy, very little editing required, to make an errata sheet, for those who had a physical book.  And they didn't put that out, even though the info is readily available, which is kinda bad. 
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Patrick Goodman on (00:56:17/02-21-17)
They didn't have those changes ready. My team got them ready, in a damn hurry and under great stress so that deadlines could be met. Before another reprint could happen without incorporating anything but what would inevitably be called token errata. I handed in nearly eight pages of editing notes with changes, some minor, some decidedly not so. Nearly everything in the Errata forum for this book? It's official now; I haven't updated the forum post or compiled the errata sheet yet, but that's on me. I'll get that fixed, I hope soon, but until then, it's mine.

Things aren't yet where I want them, but we're so ridiculously ahead of where we were as little as six months ago.

Again, I'm sorry if the efforts that my team of volunteers and I have made to date aren't sufficient.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Sir_Prometheus on (13:28:22/02-21-17)
Again, you misunderstood.  If catalyst did a second printing (with your notes) then they essentially had the errata sheet.  They would have had to make it to do the reprint. 

Again, thanks for your efforts, but don't play the victim when I complain to Catalyst about something they should have released
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Sterling on (16:16:33/02-21-17)
Again, you misunderstood.  If catalyst did a second printing (with your notes) then they essentially had the errata sheet.  They would have had to make it to do the reprint. 

Again, thanks for your efforts, but don't play the victim when I complain to Catalyst about something they should have released

Patrick, please don't think for one moment that this arrogant self-entitled arse speaks for the rest of us.

Those of us who have real lives and responsibilities understand that you have priorities and that voluntarily compiling errata comes some way down the list.

I would instead just add my thanks to you and your team for everything that you've done so far.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Sir_Prometheus on (18:02:10/02-21-17)
Again, you misunderstood.  If catalyst did a second printing (with your notes) then they essentially had the errata sheet.  They would have had to make it to do the reprint. 

Again, thanks for your efforts, but don't play the victim when I complain to Catalyst about something they should have released

Patrick, please don't think for one moment that this arrogant self-entitled arse speaks for the rest of us.

Those of us who have real lives and responsibilities understand that you have priorities and that voluntarily compiling errata comes some way down the list.

I would instead just add my thanks to you and your team for everything that you've done so far.

Way to start a flame war, will not reply in kind. 

But it's not about Patrick, for the third time, it's about Catalyst, and there's nothing wrong with complaining about not getting the errata sheet for the product I paid for.  My whole ffing point is that Patrick already gave them info required, they should be able to do the sheet on their own, would have had to, essentially, in order to do the second printing.  It shouldn't be waiting on Patrick at this point. 
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: JM_Hardy on (20:20:56/02-21-17)
Patrick, please don't think for one moment that this arrogant self-entitled arse speaks for the rest of us.

Those of us who have real lives and responsibilities understand that you have priorities and that voluntarily compiling errata comes some way down the list.

I would instead just add my thanks to you and your team for everything that you've done so far.

That is clearly a personal attack. This is a warning. Please do not repeat that behavior.

If there are any other disagreements in this thread, please do not make them personal.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Sendaz on (10:20:14/03-10-17)
Forbidden Arcana (http://catalystgamelabs.tumblr.com/post/158230750401/forbidden-arcana-art)

As a Mage, I look forward to any Arcane tomes thrown our way. :)

However, since people are still waiting on the TM rulebook, I do hope we will be hearing about that as well in the near future.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Beta on (11:27:48/03-10-17)
I'm thinking that this could be another tie in with the current tarot obsession that Catalyst seems to have for SR?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Crimsondude on (18:03:46/03-10-17)
I'm not sure how clearly it's been mentioned, but the Tarot Deck is an overarching metaplot.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Beta on (18:28:30/03-11-17)
i think it has been more implied than stated.  Thank you for the confirmation.  I mean, that kills my hope that the goofy thing would just fade away if we ignored it.  But I suppose at the least it should create more diverse plots than CFD, so if I think tarot is just lame I'll  hope that there is some interesting stuff despite the tarot association.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: on (21:59:23/03-11-17)
Mage books: 3
TM books: nil
? ? ?
Profit...?

I don't understand why there is going to be yet another magic book. There are many other aspects of Shadowrun that could see some attention to develop the game more than furthering the transition to Magicrun. I just can't fathom WHY this is what's next as opposed to the anything else. Look at 4th for example. Attitude for 2078; where's that at? What has CFD done to the masses on a day-to-day? Vice? Spy Games? Hazard Pay? Nope. *Maaaaagic*. :/

Aside from this new product, I feel that Catalyst suffers, and I really mean suffers, from a disconnect with the community. Most, if not all, of what I see from us is discontent with Catalyst. Not Shadowrun mind you, Catalyst. We're here for the game, which feels like it's circling the drain, not (necessarily) the company. Granted I can't speak for everyone. This is just what I've seen these past few years.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: PMárk on (22:50:25/03-11-17)
Mage books: 3


I thought it was only Street Grimoire. What I missed? Court of Shadows?

Also, I for one am happy about this, being curious about the plot and finding the Tarot interesting, but I like the magic part of the setting quite a lot. It's more interesting to me to get a magic-centered  plot book than a "yet another corporate war" one.  Although, I might add I'm coming from WoD and my greatest love is Mage the Ascension, so it's not that surprising, however, I could understand the frustration of the more cyberpunk-angled crowd.

I don't think something like attitude is coming soon, it wasn't that long time ago and it's content is still mostly applicable.  What I'm really missing in SR 5e are setting books. Not just plot books, but setting books about cities, regions, etc. and more non-North American stuff, because a lot of those were covered under 3e last time.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Sendaz on (16:47:04/03-12-17)
Mage books: 3

I thought it was only Street Grimoire. What I missed? Court of Shadows?

There is the followup magic book Shadow Spells  (http://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/137717/Shadowrun-Shadow-Spells)

Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Ragnarok on (18:16:39/03-12-17)
I, too, am disappointed with the sudden magic focus at the expense of the cyber portion of cyberpunk, that is intrinsic to Shadowrun.  I'm all for magic in the setting, but c'mon....  there's more to Shadowrun than just magic.  I am extremely disappointed with the lack of Technomancer support in 5e.  I had high hopes that Data Trails would be the 5e version of Unwired -- equal parts hacker/decker and equal parts technomancer, but it is evident that the technomancer is being dumped in favor of more magic fluff and crunch.  I'm not a happy camper at all.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Prime Mover on (18:27:37/03-12-17)
Been an advanced magic book in works since artifact campaign.  Still missing some magic info from past editions and if this opens up this edition to something new and interesting I'm all for it.  While never been fan of Technomancers I certainly can understand the need for at very least some cleaning up and basic info returned to this edition.  afaik The techno book is still coming but it hit a speed bumps.  Didn't they lose a writer or two early in process?  Seeing some State of the Art books in future to cover all aspects of the game would a nice addition as well.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: PMárk on (18:45:45/03-12-17)
Mage books: 3

I thought it was only Street Grimoire. What I missed? Court of Shadows?

There is the followup magic book Shadow Spells  (http://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/137717/Shadowrun-Shadow-Spells)

Ah, okay, I didn't count the small pdfs, only the hardcovers. Although there are pdfs, like that on a lot of other topics, besides magic, so I don' think magic got exceptional treatment in that regard.

 Also, I could understand too the technomancer fans' gripe not getting a book at all, while everyone else got it. But look at it that way: the majority of the books aren't for magic, magic got as much coverage as, for example guns.

How magic focused were the campaign/plot books so far, or the Missions?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Mirikon on (22:39:02/03-12-17)
At this point, I want 6th edition to hurry up and get here.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Kiirnodel on (23:00:00/03-12-17)
At this point, I want 6th edition to hurry up and get here.

I don't see wishing for a 6th edition as even remotely productive at this moment.

Unless there is some sort of change in company policy/procedure/licensing, wishing for the next edition isn't going to change anything. Particularly when it comes to the way source-books are balanced, coming in with the complaint that "there are way too many mage books compared to technomancer books, we should just start over on 6th edition" is like saying that your sandwich doesn't have enough mayo so you should throw it away and make a new one.

There's plenty of good stuff when it comes to 5th edition, and there are definitely places where there have been good improvements in the way the rules are worked out from how they were in 4th edition. Yes, there are some things where rules are muddled, and has room for improvement. And there are plenty of concepts where it seems like logical assumptions were made using rules from 4th edition, but the basis for that rule hasn't been brought forward yet.

Part of the reason there was a bit of a rough transition from 4th to 5th is because there were a lot of books that started production back in 4th edition. All the books that were dual-statted for both 4th and 5th are books that were so far along that they already had the full rules work-up for 4th edition. When they released 5th edition, those books were stuck back in the fire to update them for 5th edition rules also. And those were just the books far enough along to do that. Think about how long after 5th released that those books were coming out. Wishing for 6th edition to come now, is like asking the entire crew to throw away all the work that's been done so far and start over.

I'm not saying that improvements can't be made, I just think that the changes need to happen first with how things are organized. Having a better handle on how the rules are organized so that things are more coherent. Once the production structure is improved, then corrections can be made to the base rules. I think correcting what is already out there is a better track than just starting from scratch.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Mirikon on (00:39:25/03-13-17)
Because some of the problems are so bad, like what happened with Technomancers, that only a ground up rewrite can fix them. Tabula rasa, and while you're at it, maybe dial back the nostalgia for nostalgia's sake stuff, with the new(old) matrix, the return of priorities, and finally slaughtering the sacred cow that is the way the Karma system works. Oh, and change up the writing style to be more like what it was in pretty much all the older books, where the fluff and crunch were separated into 'in character' and 'out of character' sections. That's a stylistic choice I was disappointed to see with this edition, and could benefit from, as you say, throwing everything out and starting over.

When you have a lemon of a vehicle, do you keep taking it to the shop every couple months, or do you cut your losses and get a new car?

The sad thing is that I love the Shadowrun universe, and the current plots are, for the most part, awesome as hell. But from the start this edition has been plagued with trouble, and maybe it is time to just send it to join D&D 4th edition.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Sphinx on (02:02:53/03-13-17)
First Edition: 1989, lasted 3 years
Second Edition: 1992, lasted 6 years
Third Edition: 1998, lasted 7 years
Fourth Edition: 2005, lasted 8 years
Fifth Edition: 2013, 4 years and counting ...

Personally, I hope we get another five years out of this edition before hitting the reset button again.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Ragnarok on (23:55:41/03-13-17)
August 17th would be the perfect date to reveal a 6th Edition (Great Ghost Dance, anyone?).
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Patrick Goodman on (01:19:57/03-14-17)
It's not happening.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Marzhin on (06:02:53/03-14-17)
I still believe we'll have "SR5 30th Anniversary Edition" in 2019, way before we get a 6th Edition.
But then again I'm one of the weirdoes who actually enjoy 5th Edition very much :)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Reaver on (14:46:58/03-14-17)
I still believe we'll have "SR5 30th Anniversary Edition" in 2019, way before we get a 6th Edition.
But then again I'm one of the weirdoes who actually enjoy 5th Edition very much :)

For me, there are parts that I very much enjoy. Parts that I can see what they were attempting.. but failed to do so correctly. And stuff I down right hate.

Now, the stuff I hate has been discussed, addressed, and its time to move on from.

The Parts that I think were poorly implemented, are seeing improvement book to book, so that is something.


As to Technomancers.... Nuke them from orbit. Only way to be sure.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Finstersang on (13:48:02/03-18-17)
As to Technomancers.... Nuke them from orbit. Only way to be sure.

The Archetype is not that rotten in SR5. Adding more parallels to mages was a good idea, for instance. However the numbers (especially the pre-errata Fading values) are off and the current range of special features is too narrow and unimaginative. But this could actually be fixed with a decent sourcebook and some errata.

Unless you don´t like Technomancers, that is. But personally, I think the idea of "Tech-Wizzards" as an additional Matrix Archetype is quite promising, as long as you put some creative effort in it. Which hasn´t been done so far in this edition... :/ 
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Mirikon on (11:08:40/03-20-17)
Except that TMs aren't pallet-swapped Mages for the digital world! They never were supposed to be! They were the 'Swiss Army Knives of the Matrix'! Don't compare them to mages, compare them to Deckers and Riggers.

In 4E, a TM was a glass cannon. You had high burst-power, with threading high-level complex forms, and could adapt to situations on the fly, but since you took all Matrix damage and Fading from your Threading and Compiling straight to your brain, you could get yourself wrecked. Plus, any of your abilities in the meat would be, shall we say, sub-par, since you didn't have any access to realspace initiative boosters until you had at least two submersions under your belt, so you were looking at only a single pass in the meat-world, which severely limited your ability to help the team if combat started, unless you were a TM Rigger. And yeah, TMs could be riggers from start, without having to drop submersions on it. They were actually pretty good at it, too, and there was an entire stream devoted to it.

On the flip side, Hackers and Riggers were more reliable. Yes, they didn't have the ability to adapt on the fly in the Matrix like a TM did, but they could take more abuse, and were less likely to get themselves crippled for the rest of the run by botching a roll early on and taking half their matrix condition bar in damage trying to send an agent to do something for them. More importantly, because they weren't as Essence-dependent as TMs were, they could get ware that helped them be more of a threat in the meat, as well. Even if it was just first-level Wired Reflexes, that kind of thing makes a big difference when you're in a firefight and avoiding a severe case of lead poisoning in the Barrens trumps doing matrix searches to find out who sent these gangers to kill your team.

Fast forward to 5E, and TMs got raped up the ass by a troll with a sandpaper condom. That's really the most politely I can put it. The balance between adaptability and reliability is gone. Deckers and Riggers are both more adaptable than TMs, able to shift their attributes around on the fly, and load up different programs to suit the situation as they see fit, and they remain more reliable, still being able to take more abuse, and being able to do more in the meat as well as doing more in the Matrix. TMs keep all their old disadvantages, lose their adaptability, lose access to the Rigging aspect entirely unless they drop Submersions on it, and the fact that they can't form a PAN means they can't even secure their own damn gear, much less help their team on matrix defense. A TM who actually submerges and gets to Rig won't be able to actually control multiple drones like a Rigger with their RCC, and can't secure their own drones unless they're jumped in. And because you can no longer hack from the secure van, or some other safe space, the weaknesses when they are in the meat are even more pronounced.

The only path that produces results anywhere close to what a Decker or Rigger can do is if you play a TM as a pet class, go all in on Compiling, and have your Sprites do everything for you.


So yes, the archetype really did get that rotten in 5E.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Crimsondude on (13:11:59/03-20-17)
I miss Otaku, which are at best as similar to Technomancers as Deckers are to Riggers.


Personally, and I do mean personally, I think the SR4 "Glass Cannon" concept was great in that they were basically something that had never existed trying to find their place in both worlds. The Matrix of SR5 also happens to be one designed to actively hinder if not outright harm Technomancers. I think it's unfortunate in many ways that their countermeasures haven't evolved as rapidly as basic technology, but I'm just one dude who has limited time to even contribute ideas to the people actually writing the rules.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Neojudas on (01:06:34/05-10-17)
I admit, I have my ongoing disagreements with the course of Shadowrun 5E and it's book/title releases.  I've worked and reverse engineered the spells in all the sourcebooks so far, and it's fairly evident there is more than a bit hand waving in places.  I do agree that Technomancers have also recieved a shorter stick than say 4th Ed TMs or even 3E Otaku, but lots of house rules to expand flavor help with that (Companion Sprites anyone?).

I like the Interrupt Action concept greatly, and have found the faster characters in our games here use that system for Party defense repeatedly.  I also enjoy the Martial Arts mechanics, a good compromise from past options.  BUT it has become annoying to see how obviously heavy it is for, as one player in my games here refers to it, "special attribute" characters just don't have the same ceiling limits as mundane types do.  It is time I feel to unlock the chain or normality some.

I also believe the structure of the books and their cross referencing between titles, while necessary, has started the path of pain some time ago.

And lastly, while a blunt Timeline System placed onto the main product website would *REALLY* go a long way towards helping GMs and Players coordinate what is happening and when overall.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Finstersang on (08:03:55/05-17-17)
The only way a rush to the sixth edition would help is when catalyst sells the franchise to the germans first.

Seriously: If you are lucky enough to understand german, look at the the stuff the good people of Pegasus are putting out with - presumably - a lot less manpower. Not just the translated core books with additional art, errata and improved balancing, but also the original content like Datapuls ADL  - Now that´s how you do a fluff book! With actual engaging plot hooks and not just annoying chat ramblings about miniscule bullshit!

On a totally unrelated note: Is Amy still on the TM book? Or anybody at all?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Jack_Spade on (09:20:15/05-17-17)
On a related note:

State of the Art ADL (https://www.pegasusshop.de/index.php?thisoperationid=1&Action-Display-Themengebiet=Shadowrun&Produkttyp=Rollenspiele#articleform-5)
is supposed to hit the shop any day now.

"State of the Art ADL ist ein Ausrüstungsbuch für Shadowrun 5, das mit einem großen Haufen Spielzeug für Runner daherkommt. Es bietet neue Waffen, Archetypen, Fahrzeuge, Drohnen, Critter, magische Gruppen und Schutzgeister aus der Allianz Deutscher Länder und beschreibt zudem die wichtigsten Spieler auf den unterschiedlichen Märkten und ihre Schattenseiten in denen sich die Runner mit all dem neuen Kram eindecken können. Oder von ihm auffressen lassen."

"State of the Art AGS is an equipment book for Shadowrun 5, coming with a massive pile of toys for runners. It offers new weapons, archetypes, vehicles, drones, critters, magic groups and mentor spirits from the Allied German States. It also describes the most important players on the different markets and their shady(/ow) sides where runner can stock up on with all the new stuff. Or get eaten by them."
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: on (13:23:15/05-17-17)
Based on her posts it would seem[/] not, but that's purely speculative. Also I haven't seen any traffic on the topic from anyone else. I assume the book floats in limbo behind the NDA wall.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Finstersang on (07:17:52/05-18-17)
On a related note:

State of the Art ADL (https://www.pegasusshop.de/index.php?thisoperationid=1&Action-Display-Themengebiet=Shadowrun&Produkttyp=Rollenspiele#articleform-5)
is supposed to hit the shop any day now.


Hell yeah! I didn´t mention it because it´s not out yet, but the information on this is very promising. The book frist crossed my view when I found this artwork for the  Ruhrmetalll Spinne on Deviantart: http://www.deviantart.com/art/SR5-SOTAADL-Drohnen-RuhrmetallSpinne-AAS-AAS-674444032

Looks like we might finally get another usable option for a combat rigger  ;D
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Jack_Spade on (07:52:23/05-18-17)
Nice. Exactly the thing with which to hunt bug spirits.

Looks like SOTA is supposed to hit the shelves around May 27th for the games convention in cologne
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Mulcarn on (08:18:13/05-18-17)
I'm ready for Shadowrun to get back to being Shadowrun and not Magicrun.  We need more drones, robots, car, bikes, tanks, cyborgs and guns.  We don't need 20 more traditions and mentors that'll never be used.  Or a billion more spirit types that don't matter. (Looking at you ceramic and vehicle spirits)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: odd on (09:53:50/05-18-17)
Am I reading this right that this will be a german only release?  Anyone know a good PDF translator?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Jack_Spade on (16:57:03/05-23-17)
Just peaked around in the Pegaus Forum:
http://www.foren.pegasus.de/foren/topic/20505-newstigger-shadowrun-5/page-44 (http://www.foren.pegasus.de/foren/topic/20505-newstigger-shadowrun-5/page-44)

Fun with guns, drones, drugs, decks and even a few new life modules  :D
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (07:04:10/05-27-17)
Yeah, State of the Art ADL (https://www.pegasusshop.de/index.php?Shop-Startup=&thisoperationid=1&thisoperationid=4&Action-Display-Detailansicht=45047G) looks pretty sweet.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Dominious on (13:58:26/05-27-17)
Granted I didn't read through the full 64 pages of posts, but is there any plans whatsoever to rerelease books from previous editions with updates for 5th edition? For example, Lone Star. I am currently getting a local gam up and running and would also like to see CAS as one of the nations covered by it's own book now that we have seen so many of the others done like UCAS, Aztech, Souix Nations and Tir lands to name a few.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (20:26:45/05-27-17)
Not that I'm aware of. That's not to say that a new release won't draw upon or expand upon previous releases, but I'd bad surprised if they ever did that. You might want to check out the 2050 sourcebook. The English release was for 20A, but the German release was done with 5e.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Ragnarok on (01:41:12/07-11-17)
It's been nearly 2 months since anything has been talked about on this thread....  I know this is a forlorn hope, but is there any movement on the TM ebook yet?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Mirikon on (10:02:11/07-11-17)
It's been nearly 2 months since anything has been talked about on this thread....  I know this is a forlorn hope, but is there any movement on the TM ebook yet?
There was some, but Trump made a deal to scuttle it because Putin threatened him with the pee tapes.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Marzhin on (11:39:27/07-11-17)
I don't think this was posted before: there was apparently a preview of Zero Day, the decker-duel card game, in the April issue of Game Trade Magazine (https://previewsworld.com/Catalog/FEB170008#.WWTegnI09AE.facebook).

The cover is by Benjamin "Bengiskhan" Giletti.

(http://fondationdraco.fr/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/ZeroDay_GTM_April-789x1024.jpg)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (12:17:05/07-11-17)
Thanks Marzhin...missed this one.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Marzhin on (19:10:27/07-11-17)
More info and art in the actual preview (http://www.gametrademagazine.com/Home/1/1/58/581?articleID=191937).
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: dragrubis on (18:12:37/07-12-17)
And what about a real book for patching technomancers?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Reaver on (19:10:42/07-12-17)
And what about a real book for patching technomancers?

Just like technomancers, that book is having problems in accessing the matrix, and has had problems with dumpshock to it's condition monitor.


<in other words: it's not done yet. >
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: wraith on (01:23:55/08-09-17)
Technomancers have replaced Riggers as the 'when they get an update, the new edition is six months out' trigger.   ;D
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Mirikon on (09:37:18/08-09-17)
Technomancers have replaced Riggers as the 'when they get an update, the new edition is six months out' trigger.   ;D
Now, now. At this rate, TMs will probably get an update six months after the new edition.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: lokii on (14:56:14/08-09-17)
It's been a while since we had a list of upcoming releases. Here is all I've heard about:


And novels:
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Prime Mover on (01:32:44/08-10-17)
Are we still waiting on digital release for Undershadows & Shadows down under?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (07:09:36/08-10-17)
I believe so.

I also like to see a digital release of Sprawl Stories Vol 1 as it would compile multiple stories into a single offering, but no word as to whether that is happening or not (as it would likely mean taking down the various digital offerings available today).
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (08:47:27/08-13-17)
GenCon 2017:

Catalyst Game Labs At Gen Con 2017! (http://www.catalystgamelabs.com/2017/08/12/catalyst-game-labs-at-gen-con-2017/)

Looks like they'll have The Complete Trog, Sprawl Stories Vol 1 and Zero Day on hand. Also, picture of upcoming release show a new(?) edition of Crossfire and Sprawl Ops.

(http://www.catalystgamelabs.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Future-Catalyst-Games-1024x1015.jpg)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: lokii on (07:23:05/08-19-17)
A recording of the CGL update session at Gen Con: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw9P5ji0ous

New:
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (08:14:12/08-19-17)
Thanks for sharing!!
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Thanos007 on (13:38:43/08-27-17)
Crossfire: Prime Runners is the base Crossfire game but with the rules modified to reflect changes made with Dragon fire.  Anyone know what's the story on Sprawl Opps? Didn't get the chance to s/w anyone about it at GenCon. 
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: tytalan on (03:46:37/08-28-17)
If that's whats coming i'm not Impressed at all.  I got the new magic supplement and I was very happy with it I thought to myself hay maybe they are starting to listen to the player base .  But from the list you just gave us no they are not listening to us.  Over and Over again I have heard we need errata we need Techno's fixed,  we need rules for deckers writing their own programs and designing and building Decks both types.  I wish they would see that we need books that address the needs of the player base. 
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: on (10:06:06/08-28-17)
And catalyst needs people who work.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (21:53:42/08-29-17)
If that's whats coming i'm not Impressed at all.  I got the new magic supplement and I was very happy with it I thought to myself hay maybe they are starting to listen to the player base .  But from the list you just gave us no they are not listening to us.  Over and Over again I have heard we need errata we need Techno's fixed,  we need rules for deckers writing their own programs and designing and building Decks both types.  I wish they would see that we need books that address the needs of the player base.

You do realize that Crossfire is a card game and not an rpg book?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Backgammon on (07:48:53/08-30-17)
In a recent GenCon interview (http://gamer-goggles.com/blog/gen-con-50-coverage-42-jason-hardy-on-shadow-run-by-catalyst-game-labs-12904/) (around the 11:15 mark), Jason mentioned the Technomancer Ebook would be rolled into a physical Advanced Matrix book. This is planned for 2018.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Mirikon on (11:35:36/08-30-17)
And probably reduced to 2 pages and doing none of the ground up rewrite TMs really need.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Ragnarok on (23:31:57/08-30-17)
And probably reduced to 2 pages and doing none of the ground up rewrite TMs really need.

I hope that that's not true......  The TMs should have their own chapter, and it should have the largest word count of the entire book.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Crimsondude on (01:21:21/08-31-17)
🤔
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Mirikon on (02:00:18/08-31-17)
And probably reduced to 2 pages and doing none of the ground up rewrite TMs really need.

I hope that that's not true......  The TMs should have their own chapter, and it should have the largest word count of the entire book.
That is what should happen. Well, no, what should have happened is for them not to get the raging nostalgia boner and changed a whole bunch of shit that wasn't broken just to end up fucking everything up. But that ship's sailed, hit an iceberg, and sunk already.

At this point, we'll actually be lucky if it is 2 pages worth, or if it comes out before 6E is announced.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: on (15:10:56/08-31-17)
Will Street Lethal have any love for explicitly Adepts?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: on (15:46:20/08-31-17)
Will the (should be a fragging TM book) matrix book be an equivalent 5e Unwired?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Ragnarok on (18:50:53/08-31-17)
Will the (should be a fragging TM book) matrix book be an equivalent 5e Unwired?

That would be acceptable to me, and I suspect, a great many TM fans.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (09:31:20/09-06-17)
It has been a while, but some info on upcoming releases:
With regards to the fiction, Jason confirmed that they are in the final stages of getting things "reset" with Barnes & Nobles...books should had started hitting their shelves in August. Once a couple of the titles that didn't hit B7N previously (Undershadows, Shadows Down Under, possibly Deniable Assets) hit, the plan is to release the digital versions. My take - we might see these later this month or in October. Additionally, there is a bunch of new fiction that is done and ready to go, so we should start seeing this flow more consistently starting Q4.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: KatoHearts on (11:36:59/09-06-17)
Toxic Alleys blurb is : "Dark plots and darker magic frequently converge in the capital of the UCAS, and those forces are revving up again. Toxic Alley launches plotlines for Shadowrun involving toxic mages, shedim, and other dark forces, while building on elements from the Sixth World Tarot and Book of the Lost. Runners will have as much as they can handle keeping up with the chaos filling the back alleys of DeeCee!"
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Mirikon on (13:15:29/09-06-17)
Yet more magic, and still the TMs remain fucked with the sandpaper and poison ivy strap-on.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (13:30:41/09-06-17)
Yet more magic, and still the TMs remain fucked with the sandpaper and poison ivy strap-on.
More magic? Not sure I'm seeing that at all. To me, Street Lethal is comparable to Forbidden Arcana and Dark Terrors looks like it could be a new "Threats"-type resource.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Jack_Spade on (13:33:51/09-06-17)
Hm,
just had a look into the pegasus shop (https://www.pegasusshop.de/?thisoperationid=3&Action-Display-Detailansicht=45057G) and there seems to be a matrix centered book in the making: "Netzgewitter" (Net Thunderstorm)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (15:38:13/09-06-17)
Man...some days I wish I spoke/read German...sigh :-\
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: DeathStrobe on (20:05:01/09-06-17)
Better than Bad sounds sweet. Info on South Africa is going to be great. Maybe some stuff of the Zulu elves or the great dragon Mujaji. I'm excited.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (21:50:57/09-06-17)
Agreed...wasn't expecting this one, but really looking forward to it. TBH, all of the upcoming releases are looking good 8)
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: TonyK on (23:08:54/09-06-17)
Agreed...wasn't expecting this one, but really looking forward to it. TBH, all of the upcoming releases are looking good 8)

So I guess it's two books of advanced rules for each of matrix, magic, and combat?
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Kiirnodel on (04:06:17/09-07-17)
And Critters if you count Howling Shadows and Dark Terrors.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: belaran on (08:14:37/09-11-17)
During interview on the 6th World Podcast (http://sixthworldpodcast.libsyn.com/ep-024-cfd-w-scott-schletz), Scott Schletz mentioned the upcoming releases for Shadowrun 5:
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Ragnarok on (22:08:08/09-11-17)
During interview on the 6th World Podcast (http://sixthworldpodcast.libsyn.com/ep-024-cfd-w-scott-schletz), Scott Schletz mentioned the upcoming releases for Shadowrun 5:
  • Complete Trog (already out)
  • Street Lethal - Advanced Combat book (should also include some stuff on Corp Security)
  • Dark Terrors (main contributor should Kevin Czarnecki, and contents is "all the things that goes bump" in the night in Shadowrun, so yep, probably down the line of the awesome Threats book)
  • Advanced Matrix book - content unclear but one can hope for some Technomancer love along with some more stuff on Resonance Realm

Let's just hope that TMs don't get the whole "Sandpaper condom" treatment from Bubba the Love Troll.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Mirikon on (22:13:48/09-11-17)
Let's just hope that TMs don't continue to get the whole "Sandpaper condom" treatment from Bubba the Love Troll.
Fixed that for you. And since what they really need is a ground up rewrite, I'm not holding out hope.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Ragnarok on (01:45:37/09-12-17)
Let's just hope that TMs don't continue to get the whole "Sandpaper condom" treatment from Bubba the Love Troll.
Fixed that for you. And since what they really need is a ground up rewrite, I'm not holding out hope.

I know its a pipe dream, but one can only dream.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: belaran on (18:06:55/09-20-17)
Amending my own post above:

Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: on (19:50:45/09-20-17)
Street Lethal is not the adventure book.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: KatoHearts on (00:41:17/09-21-17)
As per the lastest missions book.

"What waters? We’re in a desert!. [Tag: City by Shadow: Casablanca]"
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: belaran on (04:29:03/09-21-17)
@Omae I've bought it over Drivethru and it is a standalone adventure - like Splintered State.

@KatoHearts Cool! Happy to see that Shadows of Marocco has not been cancelled.

Anyone has an inkling about what could be the "Better Than Bad" mentioned in the JackPoint section of Complete Trog ?

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The world doesn’t have enough good guys. Time to apply for that hero job. [Tag: Better than Bad]
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Carmody on (06:28:38/09-21-17)
Anyone has an inkling about what could be the "Better Than Bad" mentioned in the JackPoint section of Complete Trog ?

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The world doesn’t have enough good guys. Time to apply for that hero job. [Tag: Better than Bad]

As mentionned by AJCarrington  one page earlier
  • Better than Bad: A Deep Shadows sourcebook focusing on hooding, for those runners who want to try to do some good in the world. Includes information on why hooders do what they do and how they do it. Also brings some city details on Pretoria.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: belaran on (06:31:27/09-21-17)
Oh, thanks! Due to the lack of notification the past week, I've missed a lot of update - including this one.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: belaran on (06:33:28/09-21-17)
Oh, and I got confused, the adventures releases is called "Lethal Weapons", not "Street Lethal". Street Lethal is indeed the advanced combat book coming up.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: AJCarrington on (14:08:55/09-22-17)
Quick note...Dark Terrors will be swapping spots with Street Lethal, due primarily to art availability.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: belaran on (15:40:54/09-22-17)
This means Dark Terror before Street Lethal ? AWESOME !!!!!
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: odd on (23:14:22/09-23-17)
That was not my reaction  ;) unless it's horrors and not Cthulhu
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Mirikon on (03:23:49/09-24-17)
Yeah, as a player, I'd rather have Horrors. My characters, however, would MUCH rather have Cthulu. Cthulu may drive you insane by just existing near you, but it is more like a normal person not seeing the ant he stepped on. Horrors have MALICE behind them.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Crimsondude on (05:09:00/09-24-17)
Horrors have MALICE behind them.
So do shedim.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: Bull on (18:02:18/09-27-17)
@Omae I've bought it over Drivethru and it is a standalone adventure - like Splintered State.

What you bought is called Lethal Forces, not Street Lethal.  Two separate books, easily confused name.
Title: Re: Upcoming Shadowrun releases
Post by: belaran on (03:24:38/10-02-17)
@Bull, Yes I figured this out a couple of post ago :) - but thanks for pointing this out !