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Cutting Aces Errata
« on: (03:27:45/12-16-16) »
Apparently nobody else is going to just start it as a single thread... So starting it off: these are all issues that other people have posted to separate threads. Links to those threads are:

Painade Grenade page 135. Description of effects do not match with chart information.

Hustling the Mark page 154. Effects are not clear regarding what happens upon success with this action. Potentially listed effect for failure is meant to be success.

Motivational Teacher page 154. No threshold is listed. Only one success is necessary to give bonus to the Instruction?

Gear as Payment page 161. Potentially some confusion of the meaning. Clarification of the intent might be necessary.

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Re: Cutting Aces Errata
« Reply #1 on: (03:55:00/12-16-16) »
Text vs. Table problem p.134
NEMESIS ARMS PRAETORIAN (HEAVY PISTOL) is listed as having a Laser Sight instead of a Smartlink, but the table implies with Acc 4(6) that it has one. (Also a handgun with a bayonet? Really?)
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Re: Cutting Aces Errata
« Reply #2 on: (02:03:27/12-17-16) »
There's art for it in one of the old Gun H(e)avens.  It's pretty fricking brutal (if impractical) if you ask me. 
Would you want to go into a place where the resident had a drum-fed shotgun and can see in the dark?

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Re: Cutting Aces Errata
« Reply #3 on: (10:49:03/12-19-16) »
Gear as Payment is impressively mangled.

GEAR
Characters  can  offer  gear  instead  of  cash  payment.
Gear value during negotiation isn’t the same as its face
value. Typically, offering gear will be less valuable than
cold,  hard  nuyen,  unless  the  gear  is  rare  and  hard  to
get. To determine the nuyen value of a piece of gear,
increase  the  item’s  value  by  ten  percent  per  point  of
Availability. Then divide the final result by two. This is
what it is worth as a negotiation item. Expressed as an
equation,  this  is:  Negotiable  value  =  Price  +  (Price  x
[(Availability x 10) / 100])

For  example,  a  Ranger  Arms  SM-5  sniper  rifle  has
an Availability of 16 and a stated cost of 28,000 nuy-
en. The Availability increases its value by ten percent for
each of its 16 points, meaning it goes up by 160 percent,
or is multiplied by 1.6
. The calculation for determining
its value as part of a negotiated payment is as follows:
[28,000 + (28,000 x 1.6)] / 2 = 36,400 nuyen.
Note that this rule for valuing gear only applies if the
gear  is  offered  as  an  unexpected  bargaining  element,
not if a character is specifically looking to buy the item
from another character.

None of that is consistent.  "Increase by 160%" is "not times 1.6".  And the best part is that every time the equation is shown it's written differently and wrong.  Even on the table on the next page...

Gear [Cost + (Cost x Availability x  10%)] / 2
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Re: Cutting Aces Errata
« Reply #4 on: (15:18:35/12-19-16) »
I'd like to point out it's not just the painade stat variances.  "Immediate" toxins still don't take effect until the end of the round, which I doubt was intended for this item. 

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Re: Cutting Aces Errata
« Reply #5 on: (17:06:56/12-19-16) »
Gear as Payment is impressively mangled.

GEAR
Characters  can  offer  gear  instead  of  cash  payment.
Gear value during negotiation isn’t the same as its face
value. Typically, offering gear will be less valuable than
cold,  hard  nuyen,  unless  the  gear  is  rare  and  hard  to
get. To determine the nuyen value of a piece of gear,
increase  the  item’s  value  by  ten  percent  per  point  of
Availability. Then divide the final result by two. This is
what it is worth as a negotiation item. Expressed as an
equation,  this  is:  Negotiable  value  =  Price  +  (Price  x
[(Availability x 10) / 100])

For  example,  a  Ranger  Arms  SM-5  sniper  rifle  has
an Availability of 16 and a stated cost of 28,000 nuy-
en. The Availability increases its value by ten percent for
each of its 16 points, meaning it goes up by 160 percent,
or is multiplied by 1.6
. The calculation for determining
its value as part of a negotiated payment is as follows:
[28,000 + (28,000 x 1.6)] / 2 = 36,400 nuyen.
Note that this rule for valuing gear only applies if the
gear  is  offered  as  an  unexpected  bargaining  element,
not if a character is specifically looking to buy the item
from another character.

None of that is consistent.  "Increase by 160%" is "not times 1.6".  And the best part is that every time the equation is shown it's written differently and wrong.  Even on the table on the next page...

Gear [Cost + (Cost x Availability x  10%)] / 2

The final equation seems to be correct, at least from what I can gather from the text above. The only mistakes I can see with that are the first equation lacking the divide by 2 and the increase by 160% not beeing equal to a multiplikation with 1.6 as that would be an increase to 160%.

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Re: Cutting Aces Errata
« Reply #6 on: (14:59:37/12-22-16) »
Page 4, change “from and archway” to “from an archway”
Page 4, change “sehlap” to “sahlep”
Page 4, change “re-assurance” to “reassurance” (remove hyphen)
Page 5, change “was behind them” to “would come after them”
Page 6, change “walked over to the team” to “walked over to them
Page 6, change “She looks up.” to “She looked up.”
Page 6, change “There were not guards” to “There weren’t guards”
Page 6, change “mode of operations” to “mode of operation
Page 8, change “We’ll start our look at cons out” to “We’ll start out our look at cons”
Page 8, change “in hopes for” to “hoping for”
Page 8 (Corporate Con Games), established cons have proper names; capitalize “Badger” and “Pig-in-a-Poke”
Page 9 (Aztechnology), capitalize: Spanish Prisoner, False Protection, Idol Worship, Blood from a Turnip, Dirty Dutchman
Page 9 (Aztechnology), change “like they’re managed” to “like it’s managed”
Page 11 (Evo), change “if your available” to “if you’re available”
Page 13 (Horizon), change “janitors that know” to “janitors who know”
Page 13 (Horizon), change “give the, a leg up” to “give them a leg up”
Page 14 (Mitsuhama), change “out of the deal” to “out of these deals”
Page 14 (Mitsuhama), capitalize: Tennessee Snakeskin, Pony Ride, West Coast Player
Page 14 (Mitsuhama), change “three of the ten seats” to “four of the thirteen seats”
Page 14 (Mitsuhama), change “their nations cultural mores” to “their nation’s cultural mores”
Page 14 (Mitsuhama), change “sew some seeds” to “sow some seeds”
Pages 14–15 (NeoNET), capitalize: Trapped Traveler, Nigerian Poorboy, Fancy Tailor, Cal-Free Sweetheart, East Coast Exchange
Page 15 (NeoNET), change “moves he’s doing” to “moves he’s making
Page 16 (Renraku), change “over to sentience gap” to “over the sentience gap”
Page 16 (Saeder-Krupp), capitalize: Royal Flush
Page 16 (Saeder-Krupp), change “for awhile” to “awhile” or “for a while”
Page 16 (Shiawase), change “MIFD (Market Information & Forecasting Department,” to “MFID (Market Forecasting and Information Department,”
Page 17 (Shiawase), capitalize: Kitten Call, Uptown Slingblade, Johnny Will-Call
Page 17 (Wuxing), capitalize: Salted Mine
Page 17 (Wuxing), change “the shared vision that had” to “the shared vision they had”
Page 18 (Ares Going to War), change “what I’m seeing in an indication” to “what I’m seeing is an indication”
Page 18 (Ares Going to War), change “I can still to report on it” to “I can still report on it” (delete “to”)
Page 18 (Ares Going to War), change “inside of Ares” to “inside Ares” (delete “of”)
Page 20 (Lateral Transfers), change “An attachment was also sent with this file and shows” to “An attachment to this file shows”
Page 22 (The Fire Extinguished), change “if for no reason to try” to “if for no other reason than to try”
Page 23 (The Fire Extinguished), change “Stick-N-Shock” to “Stick-n-Shock” (lowercase N)
Page 23 (The Fire Extinguished), change “what side he’s really one” to “what side he’s really on.
Page 23 (The Fire Extinguished), hyphenate “beat-up”
Page 25 (What’s Special), change “District Attorneys Office” to “District Attorney’s Office” (possessive)
Page 27 (Katherine Choi), change “a AA” to “an AA” and “a AAA” to “an AAA”
Page 28 (Josephine Dzughashvili), change “means cut and run” to “mean cut-and-run.”
Page 28 (Sonya Scholl), change “recognition and fame is getting” to recognition and fame are getting”
Page 29 (Black Choi), change “recruiting some back up” to “recruiting some backup.”
Page 30 (Street-Level Players), change “The Yakuza is” to “The Yakuza are
Page 31 (Corporate Players), change “Seattle will be doing a cultural shift back” to “Seattle culture will shift back”
Page 32 (Corporate Players), change “not near as involved” to “not nearly as involved”
Page 32 (Other Local Interests), change “effect the NAN” to “affect the NAN.”
Page 32 (Other Local Interests), change “Meeting don’t always” to “Meetings don’t always”
Page 33 (Global Sandstorm), remove the period after “Teva Pharmaceuticals”
Page 34 (Spinrad’s Perfect Storm), change “control Arabian” to “control of Arabian”
Page 34 (Here are a few people to look out for), change “Bogota” to “Bogotá” (with accent)
Pages 34–35 (Here are a few people to look out for), change “Shammar” to “al-Shammar” five times (“Al-Shammar” at the beginning of a sentence)
Page 35 (Here are a few people to look out for), change “Istanbul” to “Constantinople”
Page 37 (Here are a few people to look out for), change “Spinrad laid low” to “Spinrad lay low”
Page 37 (Here are a few people to look out for), hyphenate “high-end”
Page 39 (Here are a few people to look out for), hyphenate “highest-paid”
Page 39 (SpIn Latin America), change “brilliance – but” to “brilliance—but” (full em-dash)
Page 39 (SpIn Latin America), change “crime and filth that was” to “crime and filth that were
Page 40 (Marduk Industries), change “Istanbul” to “Constantinople”
Page 40 (Marduk Industries), change “more than he has on the Grand Tour” to “more than on the Grand Tour” (delete “he has”)
Page 40 (Marduk Industries), change “no less than” to “no fewer than”
Page 40 (Marduk Industries), change “if Saeder-Krupp wasn’t around” to “if Saeder-Krupp weren’t around”
Page 40 (Prisons of Faerie Dust), change “I have been to the Court” to “I have been to the Seelie Court”
Page 40 (Prisons of Faerie Dust), change “too rich of an opportunity” to “too rich an opportunity” (delete “of”)
Page 44 (Breaking Codes), change “Istanbul” to “Constantinople”
Page 45 (Emilia), change “linguist.)” to “linguist).” (move period outside parentheses)
Page 48, change “and corporate spam,” to “corporate spam, and”
Page 50, change “independencein” to “independence in” (insert space)
Page 52 (Human Trafficking), insert a period after “schemes in play.”
Page 53 (Grey Wolves), change “Istanbul” to “Constantinople”
Page 55 (Damokles), change “phys-ad” to “adept”
Page 60 (Constantinople History), change “unlicensed versions of these movies” to “unlicensed movies”
Page 63 (By Sea), change “Marmara SEa” to “Marmara Sea
Page 65 (Nyazi Tekin), change “needs work” to “need work.”
Page 69 (Maiden’s Tower), change “ghosts walks around it” to “ghosts walk around it”
Page 76 (Ejderha), change “of drone maintenance crew” to “of a drone maintenance crew.” (insert “a”)
Page 80 (Kamil Argubedi), change “known ot have” to “known to have”
Page 83 (Dr. Catarina Ciftci), change “CITFCI” to “CIFTCI”
Page 87, change “but when I get home” to “but then I get home”
Page 87, change “Is okay a good time?” to “Is this a good time?”
Page 88, change “Love you too, bye.” to “Love you, too. Bye.”
Page 88, change “servant’s entrance” to “servants’ entrance” (plural possessive) … and again on p.89
Page 96 (Torero), there are four instances of “77th” but only one “th” is superscript; take it down
Page 96 (Torero), change “AXrimak” to “Agrimak”
Page 102 (Lady of the Three Nights), change “those who suffer under or at the hands of The Lady receive a boon” to “those who suffered under or at the hands of the Lady’s targets receive a boon”
Page 120 (Spanish Prisoner), change “The premise is simple;” to “The premise is simple:” (make the semicolon a colon)
Page 135 (Painade), stat block bottom row is a copy of Lapel Dagger; check source doc (based on Fichetti Pain Inducer, SR5 p.429, I’d guess: DAM Special, AP NA, BLAST 10m radius, AVAIL 11R, COST 500Y)
Page 139 (AR Fashion), change “give ’em slip” to “give ’em the slip” (insert “the”)
Page 141 (Holo Bracelet), change “reeals” to “reveals”
Page 144 (Social Software Subscription), change “Judge Intention” to “Judge Intentions
Page 154 (Saving Face), change “make that the test again” to “make the test again” (delete “that”)
Page 156 (Faction Reputation), change “several common example” to “several common examples
Page 156 (Sample Factions), delete unnecessary instances of “the”, leaving “Red-Hot Nukes, Halloweeners, Ancients, etc.” and “Mafia, Yakuza, Vory, Seoulpa Rings, etc.”
Page 156 (Sample Factions), change “Illuminate of the new Dawn” to “Illuminates of the New Dawn”
Page 157 (Faction Reputation), change “player character’s contacts” to “player characters’ contacts”
Page 157 (Faction Reputation), change “enemies with which other” to just “enemies.” (delete “with which other”)
Page 158 (Con, Undetected), change “then there is no problem” to “there is no problem” (delete “then”)
Page 160 (Gain New Contact), change “starts at Loyalty 1” to “start at Loyalty 1”
Page 160 (Request Service), change “as a one-time deal some explosives” to “some explosives as a one-time deal”
Page 161 (Negotiation), change “p. 376, SR5)” to “p. 372, SR5).”
Page 161 (Gear), change “Negotiable value = Price + (Price x [(Availability x 10) / 100])” to “Negotiable value = [Price x (1 + Availability/10)] / 2.”
Page 161 (Gear), change “multiplied by 1.6” to “multiplied by (1 + 1.6)” or just “multiplied by 2.6”
Page 161 (Gear), change “[28,000 + (28,000 x 1.6] / 2]” to “(28,000 x 2.6) / 2”
Page 161 (Gear), change “determining if” to “determining whether”
Page 161 (Contacts), change “should be careful to consider if” to “should carefully consider whether”
Page 161 (Service), change “dice pool of 8” to “dice pool of 5–8” and “dice pool of 12” to “dice pool of 9–12”
Page 162 (Service), change “and multiply it by 100” to “by 100 nuyen.” (delete “and multiply it”)
Page 162 (Negotiation Example), change “crate of APDS rounds” to “box of APDS rounds”
Page 162 (Negotiation Example), change “120 nuyen” to “120 nuyen per 10 shots.”
Page 162 (Negotiation Example), change “[120 + (120 x 1.2)] / 2” to “(120 x 2.2) / 2”
Page 162 (Matrix Searches), delete “The target’s dice pool is based on how little they are connected to the Matrix; consult the table below for recommended dice pools. As always, the gamemaster has the final say in how big to make the target’s dice pool.” (There’s no table.) Instead, insert: “Make a Computer + Logic Opposed Test between the investigator and the subject.”
Page 162 (Scouting the Target), change “the con artist rolls Perception + Intuition vs. the target’s Perception + Intuition” to “make a Perception + Intuition Opposed Test between the con artist and the target.”
Page 163 (Set the Hook), change “believes the lies of the con artist” to “believes their lies.”
Page 164 (Using Intimidation), change “will result in much of the same effect of a glitch” to “will have much the same effect as a glitch”
Page 164 (Using Intimidation), change “known enemy of the character” to just “known enemy.”
Page 164 (Using Intimidation), change “longaterm” to “long-term”
Page 165 (Social Skills Example), change “[5,000 + (5,000 x 0.2)] / 2, or 3,000 nuyen” to “(5,000 x 1.6) / 2, or 4,000 nuyen.” (A Rating 2 Fake SIN has Availability 6F.)
Page 165 (Social Skills Example), delete “plus 600 nuyen cash”, leaving “That will get Haze two days of her services.”
Page 165 (Social Skills Example), change “Availability of 4” to “Availability of 8F” (Deepweed has Availability 8F.)
Page 165 (Social Skills Example), change “280 nuyen a dose, so that’s 840 nuyen” to “360 nuyen a dose, so that’s 1,080 nuyen”
Page 165 (Social Skills Example), change “Set The Hook” to “Set the Hook” (lowercase “the”)


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Re: Cutting Aces Errata
« Reply #7 on: (21:50:43/04-08-17) »
p97

Ali Basar  is listed as an elf, but has only 2 charisma. Which is impossible for an elf.

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Re: Cutting Aces Errata
« Reply #8 on: (12:31:39/04-09-17) »
p97

Ali Basar  is listed as an elf, but has only 2 charisma. Which is impossible for an elf.
Not technically true "RAW". Impaired Attribute could do it, however Ali has no indication of any means of lowering his Charisma. So yes the stat block is wrong, but your statement is false.
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